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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2169
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:25:00 -
[391] - Quote
I do not scam. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1377
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:28:00 -
[392] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:I do not scam.
Confirming the honesty of the isk doubling of Erotica 1. I myself am a satisfied customer. |
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:29:00 -
[393] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Fey Ivory wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:[... It needs a fix. No, as has been reasonably explained to you many times, it doesn't. Do you not see the cognitive dissonance of calling something IMBALANCE! only when it bothers you? That's why you attract ridicule, these threads get into squabbles over details or opinions without a scrap of insight into game balance or any lack of it. She needs to read and accept the Code. The Code will set her free. No she dosent, nor do any other miner, just mine in a proc or skitt, preferably a proc, since their easilly replaced, and it will make your organisation loose money trying to deal with them, greed is bad in eve, greed gets you killed, tank your god damn boats ! Tanks don't work. If you tanked your boats, instead of using 1 or two cats they'd use 3 or 4. If they needed 5 or 6 they'd use 5 or 6. Since 5 T1 cats only cost 10 million (doing 1000+ dps) and a Procurer costs around 25m tanked and fitted they'll still win. This is why New Order exists. They're rich nullbears or carebears (likely miners :) hiding behind alts ganking people because they can and they find it fun and not in anyway risky. If you added risk they'd all vanish back to their mains never to be heard of again.
Its true, if they want to gank you, they allways can, and i dont agree to your calculation regarding what they loose in ships vs a properly tanked proc, wich is fairly easy to get 70k+ ehp on, and the loss in ore yield is fairly small compared how much tank you gain, and you soon make the money back with new procs, if you need to replace them, and consider this also, isk loss isent everything, if they need to pull in 6+ catas it means they need to pull in more players, that dosent do other things, its personal loss, and that hurts more then isk |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1052
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:30:00 -
[394] - Quote
All of my dealings with Erotica 1 have been honest, forthright, and profitable. Now, tell me more about these ghosts, Infinity Ziona. Oops, wrong thread. I meant, tell me more about your tears, Infinity Ziona. |
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:31:00 -
[395] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Fey Ivory wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:[... It needs a fix. No, as has been reasonably explained to you many times, it doesn't. Do you not see the cognitive dissonance of calling something IMBALANCE! only when it bothers you? That's why you attract ridicule, these threads get into squabbles over details or opinions without a scrap of insight into game balance or any lack of it. She needs to read and accept the Code. The Code will set her free. No she dosent, nor do any other miner, just mine in a proc or skitt, preferably a proc, since their easilly replaced, and it will make your organisation loose money trying to deal with them, greed is bad in eve, greed gets you killed, tank your god damn boats ! Tanks don't work. If you tanked your boats, instead of using 1 or two cats they'd use 3 or 4. If they needed 5 or 6 they'd use 5 or 6. Since 5 T1 cats only cost 10 million (doing 1000+ dps) and a Procurer costs around 25m tanked and fitted they'll still win. This is why New Order exists. They're rich nullbears or carebears (likely miners :) hiding behind alts ganking people because they can and they find it fun and not in anyway risky. If you added risk they'd all vanish back to their mains never to be heard of again.
Tanks do work. If you tank your ship, they come after you like you're part of the 95% who do not tank their ship and you survive. Anyone with an ounce of caution does not stick around in the exact same place to see if they come back with more ships. And it's far, far easier for them to switch targets than it is to gather more gankers to come find you. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1053
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:47:00 -
[396] - Quote
Postin' while flyin' my alt through highsec right now like it ain't no thang...
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
732
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:53:00 -
[397] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Yeah lol. I know who you and you who your other main is. The one thing I like about you is you're actually pulling off a pretty awesome scam, scamming the gankers who are ganking the miners, while getting the miners to pay for permits. Its classic EvE, so good job, but the ganking still needs to change. Because you died while autopiloting, right? Haven't you asked yourself who it was who dropped that alt of yours for no apparent value? Or why? Perhaps, as an enternal badposter, someone ran down that alt and decided to blow you out of the sky for the lulz alone. That person might not have realized he'd get an entire thread worth of tears about it, but regardless I'm sure they are happy of the end result. No the alt was just an example to show that gankers will kill anyone, even the ship and pod of an 30 minute old character. The alt was in a velator with a default 1 million skillpoiint clone, both cost zero to replace. I just undocked her again and rehit autopilot.
And I know who killed her, it was a ******** Jita based corporation called Islamic Jipod. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2169
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:56:00 -
[398] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Yeah lol. I know who you and you who your other main is. The one thing I like about you is you're actually pulling off a pretty awesome scam, scamming the gankers who are ganking the miners, while getting the miners to pay for permits. Its classic EvE, so good job, but the ganking still needs to change. Because you died while autopiloting, right? Haven't you asked yourself who it was who dropped that alt of yours for no apparent value? Or why? Perhaps, as an enternal badposter, someone ran down that alt and decided to blow you out of the sky for the lulz alone. That person might not have realized he'd get an entire thread worth of tears about it, but regardless I'm sure they are happy of the end result. No the alt was just an example to show that gankers will kill anyone, even the ship and pod of an 30 minute old character. The alt was in a velator with a default 1 million skillpoiint clone, both cost zero to replace. I just undocked her again and rehit autopilot. And I know who killed her, it was a ******** Jita based corporation called Islamic Jipod.
A what based corp? Funny corp name LOL |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1055
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Posted - 2013.11.07 02:59:00 -
[399] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: And I know who killed her, it was a ******** Jita based corporation called Islamic Jipod.
Eve hands you a hilarious story like that and you get on the forums to complain? CCP could give us the ability to form Voltron and you'd complain about having to multibox to do it. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2169
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:04:00 -
[400] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: And I know who killed her, it was a ******** Jita based corporation called Islamic Jipod.
Eve hands you a hilarious story like that and you get on the forums to complain? CCP could give us the ability to form Voltron and you'd complain about having to multibox to do it.
HAHA
It would be glorious if Knights could join together to form Voltron and have James 315 take command. |
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Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University Minmatar Republic
193
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:08:00 -
[401] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Fey Ivory wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:[... It needs a fix. No, as has been reasonably explained to you many times, it doesn't. Do you not see the cognitive dissonance of calling something IMBALANCE! only when it bothers you? That's why you attract ridicule, these threads get into squabbles over details or opinions without a scrap of insight into game balance or any lack of it. She needs to read and accept the Code. The Code will set her free. No she dosent, nor do any other miner, just mine in a proc or skitt, preferably a proc, since their easilly replaced, and it will make your organisation loose money trying to deal with them, greed is bad in eve, greed gets you killed, tank your god damn boats ! Tanks don't work. If you tanked your boats, instead of using 1 or two cats they'd use 3 or 4. If they needed 5 or 6 they'd use 5 or 6. Since 5 T1 cats only cost 10 million (doing 1000+ dps) and a Procurer costs around 25m tanked and fitted they'll still win. This is why New Order exists. They're rich nullbears or carebears (likely miners :) hiding behind alts ganking people because they can and they find it fun and not in anyway risky. If you added risk they'd all vanish back to their mains never to be heard of again.
Any suggestions on how to find these multitudinous procurer ganks? You have a link to a website or something? Not to be rude, but if you had actual examples of such ganks, I doubt you'd be posting about said procurer ganks in the subjunctive mode. Let's make it simple. How many procurer ganks do you think the New Order has done in the past month? |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
170
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:25:00 -
[402] - Quote
Xorionna wrote:Don Purple wrote:Dear OP You literally only need to be at your computer to survive MOST ganks. A properly fit ship will survive MOST ganks. You spit on a lifestyle that is an extremely active play style, most gankers I know just fly as -10 in highesc because there's no point to having a positive sec status. You can not sit still or afk or you die before you make your hit. You are blatantly stating that a player not even at his computer should have a chance to survive against someone actually clicking their mouse? Tell me when in this game, a PVP game, will any pilot survive a fight they are not at their computer for? And if you have an answer or a defense to this then maybe THAT needs fixed. The problem I see about high sec pvp is that the only tactic that exists is to fly a destroyer and have a lot of friends. I suppose if you try to kill someone in my fleet, I can't retaliate on a ganking ship unless you shoot me first. The only PVP choice right now is 1 ship vs X destroyers. Attacking a fleet, and allowing a fleet to defend one member should be possible. Right now the only thing you can do is wardec a corporation, unless your ganking pilot is in a NPC corporation, in that case I believe you can only cry sweet tears. I don't want less PVP, and I don't think the point of the thread was about that either. I just want to see different types of pvp in high sec. The only elements existing in high sec pvp is tankoing the bait ship, have a scout and fly a destroyer to pew pew. Never saw a fleet of Exequror/Osprey roaming in high sec to remote rep some random Orca.
Your choice is to go places where there aren't wolves.
This game does protect you from eliminating wild life so you'll just need to protect your sheep.
When the wolves are starved they'll wander on to the wild lands that they normally should prey in.
Find systems farther from trade routes or down dead end corridors. Meet the people in your high sec neighborhood. Be aware of suspicious activity.
Take shelter if there is a mad man on the streets. You can't kill schizophrenics either (now that mixed the wolf metaphor) |
destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
248
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:35:00 -
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invest ina jump clone and jump around, HEY! that reminds me of a song :D |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
735
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Posted - 2013.11.07 08:23:00 -
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Diomedes Calypso wrote:Xorionna wrote:Don Purple wrote:Dear OP You literally only need to be at your computer to survive MOST ganks. A properly fit ship will survive MOST ganks. You spit on a lifestyle that is an extremely active play style, most gankers I know just fly as -10 in highesc because there's no point to having a positive sec status. You can not sit still or afk or you die before you make your hit. You are blatantly stating that a player not even at his computer should have a chance to survive against someone actually clicking their mouse? Tell me when in this game, a PVP game, will any pilot survive a fight they are not at their computer for? And if you have an answer or a defense to this then maybe THAT needs fixed. The problem I see about high sec pvp is that the only tactic that exists is to fly a destroyer and have a lot of friends. I suppose if you try to kill someone in my fleet, I can't retaliate on a ganking ship unless you shoot me first. The only PVP choice right now is 1 ship vs X destroyers. Attacking a fleet, and allowing a fleet to defend one member should be possible. Right now the only thing you can do is wardec a corporation, unless your ganking pilot is in a NPC corporation, in that case I believe you can only cry sweet tears. I don't want less PVP, and I don't think the point of the thread was about that either. I just want to see different types of pvp in high sec. The only elements existing in high sec pvp is tankoing the bait ship, have a scout and fly a destroyer to pew pew. Never saw a fleet of Exequror/Osprey roaming in high sec to remote rep some random Orca. Your choice is to go places where there aren't wolves. This game does protect you from eliminating wild life so you'll just need to protect your sheep. When the wolves are starved they'll wander on to the wild lands that they normally should prey in. Find systems farther from trade routes or down dead end corridors. Meet the people in your high sec neighborhood. Be aware of suspicious activity. Take shelter if there is a mad man on the streets. You can't kill schizophrenics either (now that mixed the wolf metaphor) Lol wolves hey. Thats an insult to our four legged furry friends. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
645
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:08:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.
Fit a reasonable buffer tank when traveling AFK. Gets VERY VERY safe.
If you travel in an AFK cruiser with a 1600 plate and nothign extremely valuable in cargo hold, you can probably do it for years without being ganked. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
645
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:13:00 -
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Xorionna wrote:Don Purple wrote:Dear OP You literally only need to be at your computer to survive MOST ganks. A properly fit ship will survive MOST ganks. You spit on a lifestyle that is an extremely active play style, most gankers I know just fly as -10 in highesc because there's no point to having a positive sec status. You can not sit still or afk or you die before you make your hit. You are blatantly stating that a player not even at his computer should have a chance to survive against someone actually clicking their mouse? Tell me when in this game, a PVP game, will any pilot survive a fight they are not at their computer for? And if you have an answer or a defense to this then maybe THAT needs fixed. The problem I see about high sec pvp is that the only tactic that exists is to fly a destroyer and have a lot of friends. I suppose if you try to kill someone in my fleet, I can't retaliate on a ganking ship unless you shoot me first. The only PVP choice right now is 1 ship vs X destroyers. Attacking a fleet, and allowing a fleet to defend one member should be possible. Right now the only thing you can do is wardec a corporation, unless your ganking pilot is in a NPC corporation, in that case I believe you can only cry sweet tears. I don't want less PVP, and I don't think the point of the thread was about that either. I just want to see different types of pvp in high sec. The only elements existing in high sec pvp is tankoing the bait ship, have a scout and fly a destroyer to pew pew. Never saw a fleet of Exequror/Osprey roaming in high sec to remote rep some random Orca.
The lack of knowledge ia amzing.
You can defend your fleet! As soon as the gangker goes GCC you can fire at it. You jsut will nto have much time because concord and gates will blap them very fast.
You can enhance your fleet defeensive capabilities with gang bonuses... you can bring a logistic ship to remove repair, jsut again.. cocnord is already doing a WAY better job thanyour fleet can do.
The only thing I agree is with the NPC corportaion issue.
ALL players shoudl be booted from war dec immune corp after 1 year. Want to commit any act? Be ready to be pursued.
Also 1 man corps shoudl be wardeccable for free.. becuse epoepl just disband them and remake them. Corp shoudl cost isk only after 10 members are on it. |
Marexlovox
BLOMI BricK sQuAD.
20
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:59:00 -
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Ganking is a Profession - Its a form of Pirating. No difference from someone jumping into low sec dieing to a gang waiting at the gate tanking gate guns. There are ways to get away from gank waiting in the pipe, which everyone should know they are there by now, JF away from the forge, cloaky haulers. |
Aracimia Wolfe
The Cursed Navy
251
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:25:00 -
[408] - Quote
Quote:should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz.
Yes |
Lailyana Enaka
Saved Before Death Industries
32
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:30:00 -
[409] - Quote
Aracimia Wolfe wrote:Quote:should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz. Yes
made 28 jumps from amarr to josekorn just a few days ago, did it sitting in front of the screen, in a retireiver, didnt get ganked, and i survived to tell the tale |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
268
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:30:00 -
[410] - Quote
I'd suggest a high sec boycott but i can't do it with a straight face. |
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22210
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:38:00 -
[411] - Quote
Lailyana Enaka wrote:made 28 jumps from amarr to josekorn just a few days ago, did it sitting in front of the screen, in a retireiver, didnt get ganked, and i survived to tell the tale ...and you do that how often, exactly? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1648
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:48:00 -
[412] - Quote
Kagura Nikon wrote:You can defend your fleet! As soon as the gangker goes GCC you can fire at it. You jsut will nto have much time because concord and gates will blap them very fast.
You can enhance your fleet defeensive capabilities with gang bonuses... you can bring a logistic ship to remove repair, jsut again.. cocnord is already doing a WAY better job thanyour fleet can do. The only way to defend against a gank reasonably is ECM. And even then, you can only reduce the DPS by a certain amount, and most ganking groups will have taken that into consideration. Best of luck using logi to rep a ship through a gank lol. If the gankers aren't out on their first trip, they will have taken an extra 1 ship to counter that.Kagura Nikon wrote:The only thing I agree is with the NPC corportaion issue.
ALL players shoudl be booted from war dec immune corp after 1 year. Want to commit any act? Be ready to be pursued. That's a brilliant idea! Gankers who currently hide in npc corps so they can't be killed. Oh wait... They don't. They generally have -10 sec status and so can be killed by anyone anyway. The only thing this would do is make people have to make even more corps to abandon their alts in.
Kagura Nikon wrote:Also 1 man corps shoudl be wardeccable for free.. becuse epoepl just disband them and remake them. Corp shoudl cost isk only after 10 members are on it. And how would that help? That would just mean people would freely wardec every tiny corp they see, meaning you have to fill a corp with 10 alts or randoms to be protected from random wardecs. |
Kaaii
Kaaii-Net Research Labs KAAII-NET
30
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:14:00 -
[413] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: No I haven't been ganked but.........
Infinity Ziona wrote: I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs.
I stopped reading here.
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Time and all Eternity HumAnnoyeD
114
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Posted - 2013.11.07 11:39:00 -
[414] - Quote
Kaaii wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: No I haven't been ganked but......... Infinity Ziona wrote: I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs. I stopped reading here.
Ziona is known to contradict his/herself in his/her own forum threads just to make a point, badly. |
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
31
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Posted - 2013.11.07 14:41:00 -
[415] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: Since 5 T1 cats only cost 10 million (doing 1000+ dps) and a Procurer costs around 25m tanked and fitted they'll still win.
Please link this T1 Cat fit that does 1000+ DPS. Hell, link a T2 fit that does. Also, how is losing 50M worth of ships to kill a 25M ship a win?
Kaaii wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: No I haven't been ganked but......... Infinity Ziona wrote: I started a new account the other day and autopiloted it to Jita to act as a market alt, 30 minutes old, it was podded before it got halfway there ffs. I stopped reading here.
I considered stopping at this point, but I wanted to see how foolish the OP made herself the rest of the thread. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
862
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Posted - 2013.11.07 18:29:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:Harry Forever wrote:yea this alt account ganking is crap, the only solution to that is ganking back, I'm at 4 billion gaking goon haulers and stuff... I would hope more high sec people would dedicate some time to this work, together we could make it impossible for the goons to do a thing up there, 50 claokers up there all day long and its over for them, no more ratting no more mining Harry what do I need to do to help you end the GOON menace for all time?
get a bomber and dedicate some time in VFK area, gatecamp and gank their ships, we need to flood their systems with cloaked bombers, I'm doing it since months but we need more people who are up there all around the clock, they should not be able to move around anymore... |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
633
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:19:00 -
[417] - Quote
X'ing up for T1 fit cata doing 1000 dps for 10mil isk. Somehow the gank community has totally overlooked this excellent fit. |
Zheng'Yi Sao
DIRTY MONEY INC. The Mountain Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:30:00 -
[418] - Quote
Lailyana Enaka wrote:Aracimia Wolfe wrote:Quote:should I sit at my PC in high sec making 24 jumps from Jita to Rens just in case some douche alt wants to blow up my shuttle and pod me for lolz. Yes made 28 jumps from amarr to josekorn just a few days ago, did it sitting in front of the screen, in a retireiver, didnt get ganked, and i survived to tell the tale
I applaud your tenacity and your patience, and I appreicate your point, but...
They fold up into such nice neat little packages and fit into much faster haulers. I assume it was rigged otherwise you wouldn't have done it. But 28 jumps?1? Again I applaud your tenacity. Next time you need to move a Retriever that far I will buy you a new one, seriously. Don't do that to yourself again, please... |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:58:00 -
[419] - Quote
Frozen Chief wrote:Hi-sec should not be "safe space" obviously and I have no issue with large BC fleet being able to gank a freighter or a few destroyers able to gank a barge. However if we look at the numbers - both # of ganks over time and DPS of common ganking ships vs tank of commonly ganked ships - we can see there is some level of imbalance. You can effectively setup shop in any travel chokepoint, gank anything indy or freighter that comes by with your fleet and by the end of a couple hours come out with enough profits to cover your losses with profit gained.
A balanced approach would be having it so only ganking very high value targets can cover the total losses - ship losses, tags and time spent - thus forcing ganking squads to properly scout out their targets and weigh the risks appropriately.
There are some ways this can be accomplished but they've been covered in the countless other threads on this topic. Stronger freighter would be one way, thus taking more organization and ISK involved in each gank. Harsher sec status loss penalties, people with -10 still are ganking with no issue. Force them out of hi-sec at that point, thus forcing them to strategize which ships are actually worth going after.
Looking at barges anything that isn't a Procurer and Skiff is pretty much impossible to protect with a solo account. You can do all the scouting in the world, miss one ganker and by the time he's in your belt it's too late. I don't think we need anything crazy done here but the end result should be you need more thank one ship worth a measly 3 million ISK to gank any barge. I'd be fine with 2 ships even.
Back to what I was saying about the numbers, go on EVE-Kill and look at CONCORD Police Captain's kill history. People are clearly catching on to the fact that the ganking mechanics right now are a bit unbalanced.
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Meilandra Vanderganken
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:09:00 -
[420] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: Tanks don't work. If you tanked your boats, instead of using 1 or two cats they'd use 3 or 4. If they needed 5 or 6 they'd use 5 or 6. Since 5 T1 cats only cost 10 million (doing 1000+ dps) and a Procurer costs around 25m tanked and fitted they'll still win.
This is why New Order exists. They're rich nullbears or carebears (likely miners :) hiding behind alts ganking people because they can and they find it fun and not in anyway risky. If you added risk they'd all vanish back to their mains never to be heard of again.
Yes, cuz any ganker's killboard is full of tanked procs and skiffs, specially the New Order's!
Oh wait, no it isn't... They're full of **** fit Rets and exhumers. Of course they gank a tanked proc/skiff every now and then for propaganda purposes but in general it's **** fit rets and exhumers and the odd idiot that thought it was a good idea to engage them in their non-combat mining ship cuz they went suspect.... |
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