Only the Sanctuary Corporation, who are credited with actually creating the Stratios and Astero, will offer them at the normal pirate faction prices. If you get them from the Sisters of EVE Corporation in high security space get ready for a mark-up of up to 50%.

Does that mean if you purchase from SoE in Low or Null sec, the markup will be less than 50% high-sec markup?

And what does "price" mean? ISK, LP, items, some or all of the above?

Availability in highsec means highsec mission runners will basically cap the price. Figure that cap will be around 900 isk/LP from the highsec offer. If the highest offer is 50% more expensive than the nullsec offer, that doubles the isk/LP from the nullsec offer, so you're looking at 1900-2k isk/LP tops.

By comparison, a Crystal implant gets you about 2900-3200 isk/LP, depending on which one you choose.

It'd be possible for someone heavily farming the nullsec agent to squeeze the highsec guys out of the market, of course, but if they do that they're throwing their own profit away by shrinking their isk/LP factor. They'd need to drive the highsec offer probably down below 500 isk/LP, and of course as soon as they raise prices to cash in, people in highsec can go straight back to farming.

All that adds up to is that this isn't the nullsec cash cow it appears to be. Now if they'd been set exclusive to Sanctuary, well, that would be another matter. I'm sure Dinsdale will be back around shortly to tell us all how CCP will remove the highsec agents in Rubicon 1.1, though.


e: Of course I could be wrong. Sisters launchers manage to hold 2k+ isk/LP despite being available in highsec.

I think the reason for that is that the sisters grind sucks, even in highsec. (Having recently gone through it myself). The level 2 and 3 agents have a strong tendency to send you to lowsec every few missions, and there are very few agents in highsec in general, so you're forced to either risk your ship (and those systems have certainly been camped), or constantly wait your four hour cooldown, until you get to level 4s and can safely return to Osmon.

80k lp for blueprint. Current SiSi stats for SoE cruiser is 120k lp & 30M Isk for blueprint.

Availability in highsec means highsec mission runners will basically cap the price. Figure that cap will be around 900 isk/LP from the highsec offer. If the highest offer is 50% more expensive than the nullsec offer, that doubles the isk/LP from the nullsec offer, so you're looking at 1900-2k isk/LP tops.

By comparison, a Crystal implant gets you about 2900-3200 isk/LP, depending on which one you choose.

It'd be possible for someone heavily farming the nullsec agent to squeeze the highsec guys out of the market, of course, but if they do that they're throwing their own profit away by shrinking their isk/LP factor. They'd need to drive the highsec offer probably down below 500 isk/LP, and of course as soon as they raise prices to cash in, people in highsec can go straight back to farming.

All that adds up to is that this isn't the nullsec cash cow it appears to be. Now if they'd been set exclusive to Sanctuary, well, that would be another matter. I'm sure Dinsdale will be back around shortly to tell us all how CCP will remove the highsec agents in Rubicon 1.1, though.


e: Of course I could be wrong. Sisters launchers manage to hold 2k+ isk/LP despite being available in highsec.

These look very tasty indeed.

Though I'm a tad sad with the graph.

Would have been interesting to see SoE LP vs Caldari Navy or Fed Navy for example.

Is the intention for there to be 2 types of cruiser. One in high and one from null? With slightly different stats? Or is the 2nd kind some sorta giveaway ship?

There is a second variation of the Stratios as per the announcement made here.

I dunno maybe it's just me but frankly that white on the ship looks very untextured to me. Maybe it's the color pallet or something

Just remember that if you bookmark your wrecks and contract them to Pro Synergy, you get to make extra ISK while grinding for LP.

Lanngisi is pretty popular, just make sure you use dock and undock bookmarks (for two reasons: one, for the gankers, and two because of Amarr station pylons obstructing the warp-out to the stargates). Osmon is a kick-out station, be especially sure to use dock and undock bookmarks. Apanake is pretty quiet. Both Lanngisi and Apanake are 0.5 systems, meaning you will generally get higher rewards from missions run there.

Gallente and AMARR? Seriously? Do you guys (CCP) even remember that raising SOE standing LOWERS Amarr standing? To be correct in the lore of the universe it should be Gallente and Minmitar.

Gallente and AMARR? Seriously? Do you guys (CCP) even remember that raising SOE standing LOWERS Amarr standing? To be correct in the lore of the universe it should be Gallente and Minmitar.

I think the reason for that is that the sisters grind sucks, even in highsec. (Having recently gone through it myself). The level 2 and 3 agents have a strong tendency to send you to lowsec every few missions, and there are very few agents in highsec in general, so you're forced to either risk your ship (and those systems have certainly been camped), or constantly wait your four hour cooldown, until you get to level 4s and can safely return to Osmon.

Despite that, I agree in that the majority of LP will come from highsec, and will be the controlling factor in the supply/demand curve. It's just too easy to do 50% more missions in highsec. In general though, even with the changes, SOE will never compete with the Navy factions. Compared to the LP generated by Ichoriya mission runner and Caldari FW, for example, we can expect these to be truly "pirate" prices, and not the next navy drakes.

Edit: Why do these ships cost three times as much as their blueprints? Will they require Tech 2 components and manufacturing skills to compensate?

Wicked!

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This doesnGÇÖt come without a cost though. Only the Sanctuary Corporation, who are credited with actually creating the Stratios and Astero, will offer them at the normal pirate faction prices. If you get them from the Sisters of EVE Corporation in high security space get ready for a mark-up of up to 50%.

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