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SuPPrisE Ambraelle
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:11:00 -
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OK first of all this is about plastic wraps and wrecks. if your going about in your 1.46 billion badger 2 ( new name sucks)
https://www.fatal-ascension.com/kb4/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=315850
been told by gms they dont wanna know and wont help to raise this issue( in other words)
and they closed the ticket promptly after.
the problem is. if you kill or get killed. lets say you diee in your snowflake 1.4 bill badger 2 and all your stuff is in a plastic wrap. the wreck is fine untillll a brave dude in an algos come up and salvages your wreck.
say goodbye to your loot. the system will remove your loot and u will not get it back as stated in a support ticket. for both the looser and the ganker
my point is that game mechanics enable you to be able to loot your wreck of what drops. and others if they decide to pay the price and become suspect crims.
this game mechanic prevents this from being a valid mechanic as the system will not let you loot whats yours or whats left of it.
i think its wrong and should be changed to: cant be salvaged if a plastic wrap is inside a wreck untill its removed. or the wreck dies
oh and i think it should be made that to salvage wrecks that do not belong to you are a suspect criminal action. ....... here is the small part of the ticket to show im not trolling..
We apologize for the delay. I may have provided you with some misinformation in my previous reply, and for this I deeply apologize. The plastic wrap in question is a so-called planck container, and so are the containers created when items are ejected. This type of containers cannot be placed inside one another container of its own type. As the system attempted to place the plastic wrap in a jet container, it resulted in the plastic wrap's location being recognized as an error, and as a result it was removed by the system. While I understand that this must be frustrating, as the cargo was quite valuable, we regrettably cannot offer reimbursement as you did not physically possess the container. This case regrettably falls under our potential gain clause in our reimbursement policy.
We are sorry we could not be of more assistance in this matter. If you have any other questions or problems, please let us know. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:14:00 -
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Did you just post part of a message from a GM?
In before the lock.
BTW putting one container inside another has never worked. |
SuPPrisE Ambraelle
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:19:00 -
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its not a container its a plastic wrap. and its txt to show im not making it up contains nothing about a gm. point is its gone once its been salvaged. and it should be changed to cant salvage if a plastic wrap is in a wreck |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.06 19:53:00 -
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I'd suggest removing the GM answer, CCP doesn't want GM correspondence on their forums.
As to the problem:
It could be solved by disallowing salvaging of wrecks that contain containers.
They did the same to wrecks that are "overstuffed" (i.e. bigger than 27.5k m3), you can't salvage them until they are emptied. |
SuPPrisE Ambraelle
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:42:00 -
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that would work. but the text is only showing what the game mechanic is. and what went wrong. i was advised to post here so i did. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2013.11.06 21:59:00 -
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So you ganked a hauler and are upset that someone salvaged the wreck before you were able to grab the plastic wrapped loot? I am not sure which set of tears is more potent in this situation. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
279
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Posted - 2013.11.06 22:14:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:So you ganked a hauler and are upset that someone salvaged the wreck before you were able to grab the plastic wrapped loot? I am not sure which set of tears is more potent in this situation.
thank you for explaining, I couldn't figure out what the heck he was even talking about. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:08:00 -
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So OP is butthurt of losing plastic wrap from ganking a hauler...and this needed to be posted in F&I why?
Oh and IB4TL for rule violation:
9. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited.
The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, EVE Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:20:00 -
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Maximus Aerelius wrote:So OP is butthurt of losing plastic wrap from ganking a hauler...and this needed to be posted in F&I why?
Oh and IB4TL for rule violation:
9. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited.
The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, EVE Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties. regarding rule #9, one can oppose that once the answer is being given to a player, it is public, hence said player can do whatever he wants and paste answer wherever he wants, giving a non CCP employe any kind of information, whatever the context is, is public communication, so unless said player is under any kind of NDA, this cannot apply.
in a nutshell, any communication between a CCP member and a regular player cannot be considered "private" communication, especially when said communication revolves around a game mechanic applying to the whole player base.
the only thing CCP could ask to the player is that GM / player(s) Name being anonymised, so basically, no way they enforce this if you replace all names within communication with a set of "********" (for the FULL name, don't leave the first letter!) |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
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Posted - 2013.11.07 13:08:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:So OP is butthurt of losing plastic wrap from ganking a hauler...and this needed to be posted in F&I why?
Oh and IB4TL for rule violation:
9. Posting of private CCP communication is prohibited.
The posting of private communication between the Game Masters, EVE Team members, Moderators, Administrators of the forums and forum users is prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties. regarding rule #9, one can oppose that once the answer is being given to a player, it is public, hence said player can do whatever he wants and paste answer wherever he wants, giving a non CCP employe any kind of information, whatever the context is, is public communication, so unless said player is under any kind of NDA, this cannot apply. in a nutshell, any communication between a CCP member and a regular player cannot be considered "private" communication, especially when said communication revolves around a game mechanic applying to the whole player base. the only thing CCP could ask to the player is that GM / player(s) Name being anonymised, so basically, no way they enforce this if you replace all names within communication with a set of "********" (for the FULL name, don't leave the first letter!)
Seems the rules don't have grey areas. From the OP: "EDIT Private GM responses are not to be posted. - ISD Tyrozan" |
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SuPPrisE Ambraelle
Demon-War-Lords Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.11.07 17:13:00 -
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im not butt hurt i didnt get it. its the point of that guy (i asked ccp to give his stuff back as its a stupid mechanic ) could no long have the chance to loot his own wreck and continue his courier or get his stuff. if u die in the same way u cannot get ur stuff.
its taking away the chance of getting back some of your items you lost which one game mechanic is you can loot your wreck. |
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