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Black Ivan Bakshonen
Cuisinart Inc. Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:00:00 -
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Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?! |
Board of Directors
War Firm
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:02:00 -
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Black Ivan Bakshonen wrote:Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?!
HOW DARE YOU MAKE THIS MAN JUMP THROUGH STAR GATES! |
Black Ivan Bakshonen
Cuisinart Inc. Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:03:00 -
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^^ he gets it. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:07:00 -
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Board of Directors wrote:Black Ivan Bakshonen wrote:Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?! HOW DARE YOU MAKE THIS MAN JUMP THROUGH STAR GATES!
How about because quite literally a thousand plus pilots tried to get into Sraum and wasted time when CCP could have announced the high sec jump off into null sec hours ago. |
Thadrian Bhelas
Eightfold Arrow Bounty Hunter Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:11:00 -
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I think CCP is unclear on the meaning of staging point. In English the term implies that the point in question will be a good place to stock supplies for the coming action. 23 %@%$ jumps away is not a good staging point.
To make everyone involved waste an hour flying that distance with an average TIDI 0f 24% is a terrible idea CCP. I'm not sure what your motives are, but if you are trying to turn people away from live events you will succeed.
p.s. I logged in, wrote this and posted it while warping across Hama. Still not done...
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okst666
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:11:00 -
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@CCP: Plz Open a Wormhole from Barira to Ihal...
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Thadrian Bhelas
Eightfold Arrow Bounty Hunter Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:20:00 -
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Thadrian Bhelas wrote:I think CCP is unclear on the meaning of staging point. In English the term implies that the point in question will be a good place to stock supplies for the coming action. 23 %@%$ jumps away is not a good staging point.
To make everyone involved waste an hour flying that distance with an average TIDI 0f 24% is a terrible idea CCP. I'm not sure what your motives are, but if you are trying to turn people away from live events you will succeed.
p.s. I logged in, wrote this and posted it while warping across Hama. Still not done...
p.p.s. I am changing my estimate of travel time to 2.5 hours and average TIDI to 13%
kk, to hell with this. I told myself after wasting time staging ships in Luminaire that I wasn't goin to waste time on these again. Then last night I got 2 BS ready in Sarum, and clone jumped to be ready. Haa haa, the joke is on me and the 1000+ other pilots who showed up where we were asked to. |
Rhnra Pahineh
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:30:00 -
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Good job filtering out people for the event ccp. Really. If you wanted less people to join, you just had to ask. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:31:00 -
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That's a really bad organisation. It's 35 minuts from the beggining of the event and I have lost a ship with one account, my two others, taking two different way, and both still traveling at 10% tidi and haven't reached their destination yet.
I guess the GM teleported himself at Ihal and started the event without waiting for us ?
So yes, I don't know who's the genius who thought that moving 1500+ ppl through 18 jumps shorter or 22 jumps safer would be wise, I don't know who thought that it would be wise to make people from Amarr militia go through matarr space to reach the target destination, but that's really BRILLIANT.
All we get from following these events is lag, losses, and a complete absence of organization. I really recommend CCP to reconsider the role of their players into their events, because for the moment I feel like CCP does not care about us, players kind enough to attend to events announced 24 hours ago.
PS : Next time let devs actually playing eve, knowing the reality of the game, organize this kind of stuff, please... |
Akaneko
Nipple Squad Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:48:00 -
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I for one cannot imagine a SINGLE CCP employee EVER saying that this was a successful event. Ever. I live in Null and love fighting there. I agreed to go to this shin-dig with my little brother.
Someone more eloquent than I said that the concept of "staging area" was lost in translation. I think, apparently, so is the idea that CCP understands it's own mechanics regarding vast numbers of pilots in systems that aren't tuned to have that level of activity.
I told one of my pilots who was complaining about 28% Tidi that he was lucky. I never saw anything more that 10%,
So my hat's off to a totally failed live event for many thousands of pilots. I think it can simply be summed up in a single word.
Fail.
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:52:00 -
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Akaneko wrote:I think it can simply be summed up in a single word.
Fail.
I would, too, say a word that begins with a "F"...
But not the same, because a fail would imply waiting until players are able to catch up. It would have been boring, but not insulting. |
Jason Redfort
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:58:00 -
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Yeah, was the 2nd and last live event i do. The Luminare was good but this is crap and very bad planed. I hope that some of the ppl which planned this get a written warning.
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Kasimir Wulf
Ubiquitous Hurt
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Posted - 2013.11.07 19:59:00 -
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Black Ivan Bakshonen wrote:Why would you tell us to stage 16 jumps from the actual staging system? WHY!?!
just be glad you didn't do the 22 jumps to Ihal, wait an hour to suffer through 10% tidi through 2 of the 6 jumps to dest then get kicked and not be allowed to reconnect because they locked down all those nodes..
nice work CCP. now i remember why i don't participate in their **** poor event's. so now i have to wait 2+ hours just so i can reconnect to my character and go back to what i was originally doing before i wasted 3 hours of my life for this crap. |
Raszagal Thara
Souls of Steel Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.07 20:22:00 -
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Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up .. |
Marsan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:05:00 -
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These sorts of things make me they don't do events in the US time zones.... |
Kommando Kodiak
Noble Military Academy Inconspicuous Bastards
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:28:00 -
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I went through the whole thing, from sarum to ihal, all the while watching the CCP twitter for updates in the hopes of them announcing a 3rd point to go to or if the event had ended. They announced nothing so alot of people following that thought the event was still green lit waste of 2 hours it really was.
I came up to sarum from hentogaira and had to do 40 something jumps back all for nothing.....
Sound advice: Live events are a waste of time |
Sahriah BloodStone
Takmahl Dynamics
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:44:00 -
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Good forces stage in sarum Bad forces stage in utopia
We're attacking pirates so that means low sec/null sec
Where did you think we were going? Was blatenly obvious we were going to them
Edit: Can't spell |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
1167
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:47:00 -
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Just remember to jump into opposite direction next time CCP invite you to join "live event" - to save your time (dilation). |
Sulior
Rondac's Reasearch and Testing Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 03:48:00 -
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Raszagal Thara wrote:Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up ..
It wasn't a screw up. You REALLY think they gave these guys a 30-40 min head start on gate camps on accident? We just know that they have alts in the alliances over there. |
Renkari
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.08 06:17:00 -
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Altrue wrote:But not the same, because a fail would imply waiting until players are able to catch up. It would have been boring, but not insulting.
They waited for around 20 minutes until there were ~750 pilots in Ihal, and CCP had their volunteer fleet full, I think.
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epicurus ataraxia
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:13:00 -
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Well, I don't think anyone could say it was not a clusterfreck.
There is obviously new lore being written here, but the execution and planning of this event overshadowed it.
I look forward to how that develops, but just leading fleets to what can only be an inevitable slaughter is not smart or clever.
Titan bridges to the destination, where a great battle takes place, concorde and the navies abandoning the capsuleers to their doom, would have told the story, and made it clear the navies hold the eggers in contempt.
CCP leading hisec into a nullsec trap said that THEY hold their subscribers in contempt..PROBABLY not what they wanted to say.
I am not asking for anyones head, but for gods sake hold a post failure analysis meeting and make sure this NEVER happens again.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:51:00 -
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Raszagal Thara wrote:Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up ..
To be fair to you guys, this was chronically bad planning on their part. Sure, odds were high we had spies, but the fleet leader telling you which planet to warp to, in local, doomed you. We weren't at the planet at the time, but our scout in your system relayed the instruction you guys had been given, and we had plenty of time to set up the welcoming committee. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.08 10:55:00 -
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Sulior wrote:Raszagal Thara wrote:Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up .. It wasn't a screw up. You REALLY think they gave these guys a 30-40 min head start on gate camps on accident? We just know that they have alts in the alliances over there.
We didn't need a head start. Razor have been staged in Doril (the system so many of you died) for three months, and we have been staged in G-O (one Titan bridge away - and since we are best-buds with Razor, we have cynos ready to activate in Doril as standard) for just as long. You were lead too us. Even with a 5 minute warning (that you arriving in Ihal would have gave) would have been enough for pings to go out and fleets to flash-form.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2013.11.08 12:28:00 -
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Only the stable ones survive? |
Scuzzy Logic
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
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Posted - 2013.11.08 18:33:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Sulior wrote:Raszagal Thara wrote:Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up .. It wasn't a screw up. You REALLY think they gave these guys a 30-40 min head start on gate camps on accident? We just know that they have alts in the alliances over there. We didn't need a head start. Razor have been staged in Doril (the system so many of you died) for three months, and we have been staged in G-O (one Titan bridge away - and since we are best-buds with Razor, we have cynos ready to activate in Doril as standard) for just as long. You were lead too us. Even with a 5 minute warning (that you arriving in Ihal would have gave) would have been enough for pings to go out and fleets to flash-form.
And since gates only pour in 50 players at a time, you had more than 5 times the alpha we did, assuming we all came from the same fleet.
Thankfully I went around. Only to find out the actors were already bored and destroyed the mission objective before any of the highsec people made it due to TiDi.
Oh well, at least it was only European players. |
Sulior
Rondac's Reasearch and Testing Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:22:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Sulior wrote:Raszagal Thara wrote:Ihal was one thing - but next dest RMOC- (nullsec) - every gate hellcamped - beeing directed by some "yellow" guy in local directly into a goon bubble .. I'm utterly impressed by the level of ccp-screw up .. It wasn't a screw up. You REALLY think they gave these guys a 30-40 min head start on gate camps on accident? We just know that they have alts in the alliances over there. We didn't need a head start. Razor have been staged in Doril (the system so many of you died) for three months, and we have been staged in G-O (one Titan bridge away - and since we are best-buds with Razor, we have cynos ready to activate in Doril as standard) for just as long. You were lead too us. Even with a 5 minute warning (that you arriving in Ihal would have gave) would have been enough for pings to go out and fleets to flash-form.
That just reinforces my statement that this was CCP feeding Razor kills. We already know they want highsec to go away but making the highsec people ragequit the game is not a smart move. |
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