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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1575
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Posted - 2013.11.21 03:17:00 -
[1951] - Quote
The only genuine use I can see for this is fitting them onto unbonsed hulls. Specifically, the Prophecy. Mine had RLMs before in the spare highslots, and now it's a good bit more burst than before, which has improved my utility in fleets.
Otherwise, all but useless.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
310
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Posted - 2013.11.21 07:58:00 -
[1952] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Otherwise, all but useless.
You're wrong |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.11.21 10:25:00 -
[1953] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote:I'm having a great time with the new launcher mechanic.
Guess I have "Adapted". Really? How wonderful. Now we know you're having a great time but not much more than that. Use that Cancel button next time. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
785
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:41:00 -
[1954] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote:I'm having a great time with the new launcher mechanic.
Guess I have "Adapted".
Wow, you've managed to enjoy a weapon that ROFLBBQPWNs targets of any size? Congratulations! Achievement unlocked: Enjoy Stomping Dudes With Broken **** |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1577
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:48:00 -
[1955] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Otherwise, all but useless.
You're wrong
It's not a fleet weapon? That 40 sec reload time sure makes it look more tempting in groups than alone. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
16222
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Posted - 2013.11.21 11:49:00 -
[1956] - Quote
Gotta say the 40 second reload time is bad, needs to be cut in half. Also the amount of missiles fully loaded needs to be increased.
DMC |
Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
310
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Posted - 2013.11.21 12:13:00 -
[1957] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Spugg Galdon wrote:I'm having a great time with the new launcher mechanic.
Guess I have "Adapted". Really? How wonderful. Now we know you're having a great time but not much more than that. Use that Cancel button next time.
So people who can adapt to change and are giving positive feedback to these new weapons should just cancel their subscription and GTFO because we are ruining "your" game? -Disclaimer.... I'm reading a little between the lines here.
Ganthrithor wrote:Spugg Galdon wrote:I'm having a great time with the new launcher mechanic.
Guess I have "Adapted". Wow, you've managed to enjoy a weapon that ROFLBBQPWNs targets of any size? Congratulations! Achievement unlocked: Enjoy Stomping Dudes With Broken ****
Don't think I've killed you yet with them but I'll keep an eye out for you
They aren't OP. They have major advantages and major drawbacks. 40 seconds to me doesn't seem very long. Probably because I'm so busy concentrating on manual flying rather than hitiing orbit, press F1 and wait.
The only issue with these weapons right now is ammo switching. This is currently being worked on and I hope to see it in 1.1 |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:03:00 -
[1958] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote: So people who can adapt to change and are giving positive feedback to these new weapons should just cancel their subscription and GTFO
Emotions are good and I'm happy for you but just saying "I'm having a great time" in no feedback.
Quote: The only issue with these weapons right now is ammo switching. This is currently being worked on and I hope to see it in 1.1
CCP dev alt spotted. |
Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
310
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Posted - 2013.11.21 13:49:00 -
[1959] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Spugg Galdon wrote: So people who can adapt to change and are giving positive feedback to these new weapons should just cancel their subscription and GTFO
Emotions are good and I'm happy for you but just saying "I'm having a great time" in no feedback. CCP Rise wrote:I think we will come out of this with a very fun pair of weapon systems. If we don't, it will get changed.
I think the fact that I am having fun is valid feedback Niena Nuamzzar wrote:[quote=Spugg Galdon] The only issue with these weapons right now is ammo switching. This is currently being worked on and I hope to see it in 1.1 CCP dev alt spotted.
I'll comment on this line later when I'm not at work as this could take some time
EDIT: I'll also learn how to multi quote sooner or later |
Mark Rain
EVE University Ivy League
26
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Posted - 2013.11.21 15:44:00 -
[1960] - Quote
Benedictus de Suede wrote:What-¦s Op in this game are guns. It-¦s like a Ferrari with a 1 litre gas tank.
Good analogy...lol
40 secs is way too long. Can't even complete a reload between belt jumping for rats |
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Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
10
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:43:00 -
[1961] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote:I'm having a great time with the new launcher mechanic.
Guess I have "Adapted".
Because killing dual webbed Stealth Bombers with your Bellicose is some kind of serious business that you couldn't have done before with a single drone?
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Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
10
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Posted - 2013.11.21 16:52:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Spugg Galdon wrote:I'm having a great time with the new launcher mechanic.
Guess I have "Adapted". Because killing dual webbed Stealth Bombers with your Bellicose is some kind of serious business that you couldn't have done before with a single drone or a well aimed fart? O wait, your drones had the killing blow. Show us your actual "tanked frig kills" where there was actually more than one instead of sneezing on stealth bombers. Or, better yet, why don't you read the post from the esteemed gentleman from Hydra Reloaded (you know, that little corp that made it to the Alliance Tournament Final) and hear what a pro has to say. You might learn something.
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Peter Gersen
Bodissey Barons Corporation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:31:00 -
[1963] - Quote
This is so sad. My "Arbalest" RLML now have a load of 16 (not 18, no, just 16) missiles. Tried them in PVE, but they are ridiculous. RIP, Caracal. |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:48:00 -
[1964] - Quote
Peter Gersen wrote:This is so sad. My "Arbalest" RLML now have a load of 16 (not 18, no, just 16) missiles. Tried them in PVE, but they are ridiculous. RIP, Caracal.
CCP Rise wrote: Let me know what you think and keep in mind that numbers may be adjusted slightly as we continue to test.
Rise, can we get any kind of feedback from you for a change - perhaps it's time for some finer adjustments, don't you think?
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Stitch Kaneland
Soldiers of Farscape The East India Co.
2
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:34:00 -
[1965] - Quote
So many caracal pilot tears.
Maybe people should start experimenting with different fits instead of same lse fits? I found it odd pre rubicon that a t1 cruiser could almost kill my vaga with an anti frigate weapon. Dual lse kitey vaga. So, while it is fun to read all the tears there are a couple valid points. RoF is a bit pointless on rml. Especially since it seems everyone flies them as support, from what I'm reading.
Maybe change RoF bonus to dmg bonus? |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
944
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Posted - 2013.11.21 18:51:00 -
[1966] - Quote
Stitch Kaneland wrote: Maybe people should start experimenting with different fits instead of same lse fits?
So are you suggesting flying an armor caracal, a 0 tank caracal, an mse caracal or what? Because all of those are quite bad. |
Dr Sraggles
The Covenant of Blood
10
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:16:00 -
[1967] - Quote
Stitch Kaneland wrote:So many caracal pilot tears.
Maybe people should start experimenting with different fits instead of same lse fits? I found it odd pre rubicon that a t1 cruiser could almost kill my vaga with an anti frigate weapon. Dual lse kitey vaga. So, while it is fun to read all the tears there are a couple valid points. RoF is a bit pointless on rml. Especially since it seems everyone flies them as support, from what I'm reading.
Maybe change RoF bonus to dmg bonus?
If you EVER lost your Vaga to a Caracal you would have to be seriously bad. Lemme guess, he engaged you at 60km and you flew all the way to him eating missiles in the face while you ran him down?
Because you and I both know the only way that was a close fight is because you fought him outside of point range/your optimal for awhile. Once you got into brawl range the Caracal got blown the **** up.
Didn't it? |
Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
312
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:23:00 -
[1968] - Quote
Michael Harari wrote:Stitch Kaneland wrote: Maybe people should start experimenting with different fits instead of same lse fits?
So are you suggesting flying an armor caracal, a 0 tank caracal, an mse caracal or what? Because all of those are quite bad.
How about trying something new. There are so many tools out there to help. I am not going to hold your hand. |
Stitch Kaneland
Soldiers of Farscape The East India Co.
2
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:34:00 -
[1969] - Quote
It was awhile ago. Thinking maybe inferno expansion. Think start range was about 40-45km. I didn't burn at him, but at an angle. Then just got him to chase me while I pulsed mwd. He capped out and died shortly after. Though I was maybe at 25percent shield when all was said and done. I don't run into caracals often in null anymore, I unsubbed for a few months shortly after that fight since things were stagnant at the time.
Not armor caracal.. don't just jump to the most ******** thing you can think of. Use your brain. If you're mainly fighting frigs, why not lsb w/ cap booster. Resist rigs..etc. I'm not at my comp at the moment, so can't fit anything up to see if its even feasible. But I was able to atleast think of something semi competent other than the "armor caracal".. cap booster/lsb gives bonus of not needing to worry about kiting and running out of cap and potentially surviving reload. Iirc cap booster and lsb are similar in pg/cpu as compared to dual lse. Then add drugs and have fun. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
944
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:50:00 -
[1970] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Stitch Kaneland wrote: Maybe people should start experimenting with different fits instead of same lse fits?
So are you suggesting flying an armor caracal, a 0 tank caracal, an mse caracal or what? Because all of those are quite bad. How about trying something new. There are so many tools out there to help. I am not going to hold your hand.
Yes, because I only flew caracals before, and I still plan on flying them now |
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Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:52:00 -
[1971] - Quote
Stitch Kaneland wrote: Not armor caracal.. don't just jump to the most ******** thing you can think of. Use your brain. If you're mainly fighting frigs, why not lsb w/ cap booster. Resist rigs..etc.
You mean something like this?
Damage Control II Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Ballistic Control System II (x2)
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Faint Warp Disruptor I X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 EM Ward Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile (x6)
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Hobgoblin II (x2)
-- 18.7k EHP, 500dps omni tank, 152dps using Precision, 197dps with Fury
Not too impressed with damage dealing part, aren't we?
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Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
944
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:58:00 -
[1972] - Quote
Reporting asb as a dps tank is sort of misleading anyway |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.11.21 20:12:00 -
[1973] - Quote
Michael Harari wrote:Reporting asb as a dps tank is sort of misleading anyway Buffer fit - if you add web, you lose 6.5k EHP
[Caracal, mwd buffer LML] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II (x3)
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II (x3)
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile (x5)
Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II (x2)
-- Stats: 30.2k EHP, 169dps Precision missiles (142dps applied to ab fitted Kestrel), 221dps Fury |
Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
312
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:18:00 -
[1974] - Quote
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Reporting asb as a dps tank is sort of misleading anyway Buffer fit - if you add web, you lose 6.5k EHP Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II (x3) Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II (x3) Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Precision Light Missile (x5) Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hobgoblin II (x2) -- Stats: 30.2k EHP, 169dps Precision missiles (142dps applied to ab fitted Kestrel), 221dps Fury EDIT: Cerb would be far better with lights ofc, 308dps using Scourge Precision and 412dps using Scourge Fury. With pretty nice tank it can fit web easily, having 100% applied damage to almost everything. Oh, forgot to mention - numbers are with my skills and implants. EDIT2: And no, I don't think light launchers can be in any way replacement for rapid launchers. You can fight frigates and destroyers with Cerb but almost nothing else and to me it seems a bit expensive and silly to use it only as an anti-frig support. Meant to say, in that case I'd rather fit those new RLML so I can at least pretend am trying to kill something bigger.
You need a web or you won't be applying a lot of your damage. Stop trying to over tank and accept that you need more than tank and dps. |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.11.21 21:48:00 -
[1975] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote: You need a web or you won't be applying a lot of your damage. Stop trying to over tank and accept that you need more than tank and dps.
http://tinyurl.com/lygsayn |
Fourteen Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:22:00 -
[1976] - Quote
I heard Mrs CCP Rise ran off with a Caldari pilot, and he's been nerfing our ships ever since. Next up, the Ibis "cuz a guy said its OP".
If your not already doing Gallente or Minmatar you better start training, because this guy will not let up until eve is full of ugly green and brown ships. |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
624
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:37:00 -
[1977] - Quote
At least they finally removed this thread as a sticky, because it's obviously not going anywhere... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
312
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:39:00 -
[1978] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:At least they finally removed this thread as a sticky, because it's obviously not going anywhere...
good.
all is working as intended |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
624
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:43:00 -
[1979] - Quote
Spugg Galdon wrote:good. all is working as intended I have no idea if it's working as intended, but it seems obvious a review isn't in the cards... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Fourteen Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.11.21 22:46:00 -
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Spugg Galdon wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:At least they finally removed this thread as a sticky, because it's obviously not going anywhere... good. all is working as intended
You might feel differently if most of your skills were tied up in Caldari and Missiles. |
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