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Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:11:00 -
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Just wondering what fits people have come up with for the Stratios? Exploring, PvE and PvP? Thanks |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
304
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:20:00 -
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I have a lot of excellent fits for sentry drones but don't feel like sharing them. The secret is to use expensive modules and to make due with a 3 slot tank in either shield or armor.
I suppose i should also check out fits for heavy drones setups, which save you having to use omnilinks or drone scope ships or DLAs. Which probably leaves you room to fit lasers. |
NightmareX
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
241
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Posted - 2013.11.08 22:42:00 -
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For PVP, i have had alot of success with the Stratios on Sisi so far.
Here is the setup i'm gonna use on it when i get it.
[Stratios, Suprise Buttsex]
High-slot:
4x Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M 1x Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Med-slot:
1x Gistum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive 1x Dark Blood Warp Disruptor 2x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier 1x Dark Blood Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Low-slot:
1x Reactive Armor Hardener 1x Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 2x Drone Damage Amplifier II
Rigs:
2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump II 1x Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Drones:
10x Hammerhead II 6x Ogre II (can only use 4 at the same time) 6x Garde II (can only use 4 at the same time)
This setup have 62.1k EHP with a Low-grade Slave set. It does 169 gun DPS (with a +5% to ROF implant), 561 drone DPS with 4x Ogre II deployed, witch will be 730 DPS in total. By using Garde II's, you will top out at 700 DPS.
When it comes to speed, it does 1348 m/s.With the MED overloaded it does 1922 m/s. And as we don't know the prices on the Stratios yet, this setup will cost you 590 mill isk according to PYFA. So it might be a bit expensive in total, but it depends on what the ship it self will cost.
It also have used 1143 out of 1150 Powergrid and 487 out of 500 CPU. |
Niclas Solo
TEMPLAR. Syrian Natural Gas Co.
3
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:32:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:For PVP, i have had alot of success with the Stratios on Sisi so far.
Here is the setup i'm gonna use on it when i get it on TQ.
So it is a myrm that can warp cloaked? maybe a little better agility? Sounds like a fun ship but paying close to 1 bil for that? |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
309
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Posted - 2013.11.09 04:01:00 -
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Niclas Solo wrote: So it is a myrm that can warp cloaked? maybe a little better agility? Sounds like a fun ship but paying close to 1 bil for that?
"little better agility???" Its extremely agile. Its agility is between that of a cynabal and a vigilant, which are both absurdly agile ships.
w/ my skills, with no armor plates, stratios has a 4 second align time. nonplated myrmidon has a 8.4s align time. |
Zeba
Honourable East India Trading Company
7
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:10:00 -
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Both the frigate and cruiser will be worth every isk provided you have a competent gang to run with.
Solo should be viable but that will take some fancy faction fits.
As for me I'll be all over the astero. Explorers beware after rubicon hits. |
Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
113
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Posted - 2013.11.09 05:22:00 -
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I don't know so much about a 'gang' in the classical use of the term, but these are going to make blops ganking and power projection very popular. Figure the new super frigate warp speeds and a covert cyno to bridge in wings worth+ of stratios (stratiosii? Stratioses?) Now you have ahac support for the siege fleet :) |
der Senf
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:13:00 -
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The real question is can they be used in fw plexes so we can farm those juicy warp core stabs. |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve Filthy Bastards
1554
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Posted - 2013.11.09 08:54:00 -
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der Senf wrote:The real question is can they be used in fw plexes so we can farm those juicy warp core stabs. Of course they will be. |
Oxide Ammar
Equilibrium Tech Labs
28
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Posted - 2013.11.09 10:13:00 -
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Batelle wrote:I have a lot of excellent fits for sentry drones but don't feel like sharing them. The secret is to use expensive modules and to make due with a 3 slot tank in either shield or armor.
I suppose i should also check out fits for heavy drones setups, which save you having to use omnilinks or drone scope ships or DLAs. Which probably leaves you room to fit lasers.
Don't worry, we will see them eventually..In your killmail.. |
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Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
341
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Posted - 2013.11.09 11:13:00 -
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Here's a 6/10 Sansha fit I came up with, it can probably run Blood Raiders 6/10 too, but between drone aggro and trying to outrange the neuts, I'm not sure if it's possible.
[Stratios, Plexes]
Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Large Capacitor Battery II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Curator II x4 Curator II x2 Ogre II x4 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Wasp EC-900 x4 Hornet EC-300 x5 Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
It's got a pretty massive Sansha tank (I think around 700dps can't remember) and might even be overtanked since the Sansha 6/10 doesn't have a web tower so you can speed tank in peace, I'll try it out and tweak the tank/dps ratio as needed. I think it was cap-stable without the guns turned on but I can't remember, I'm on my laptop without Pyfa so I can't check right now. I was going to use it fully solo with a probe launcher in the cargohold to be switched for one gun when I need to scan and vice versa. It has alot of dronebay so it can fit all kinds of utility drones which is really nice, if you ever get caught by someone you can sick your ECM drones on them and have a chance to escape, also a repair bot just to repair damaged drones in between fights. |
Botia Macracantha
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
1
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Posted - 2013.11.09 12:18:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:For PVP, i have had alot of success with the Stratios on Sisi so far.
Here is the setup i'm gonna use on it when i get it on TQ.
[Stratios, Suprise Buttsex]
High-slot:
4x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 1x Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Med-slot:
1x Corelum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive 1x Dark Blood Warp Disruptor 2x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier 1x Dark Blood Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Low-slot:
1x Reactive Armor Hardener 1x Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II 2x Drone Damage Amplifier II
Rigs:
2x Medium Trimark Armor Pump II 1x Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Drones:
10x Hammerhead II 6x Ogre II (can only use 4 at the same time) 6x Garde II (can only use 4 at the same time)
This setup have 67.2k EHP with a Low-grade Slave set. It does 147 gun DPS (with a +5% to ROF implant), 561 drone DPS with 4x Ogre II deployed, witch will be 708 DPS in total. By using Garde II's, you will top out at 678 DPS. Yes, i use Autocannons to be able to hit smaller ships much better.
When it comes to speed, it does 1298 m/s. With the MWD overloaded it does 1846 m/s. And as we don't know the prices on the Stratios yet, this setup will cost you 595 mill isk according to PYFA. So it might be a bit expensive in total, but it depends on what the ship it self will cost.
It also have used 1134 out of 1150 Powergrid and 479 out of 500 CPU.
Expensive but pretty |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
66
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Posted - 2013.11.09 15:51:00 -
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More fits people |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
66
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Posted - 2013.11.09 17:16:00 -
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For exploring this is what I was going for
Stratios
High - - Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe - 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II - 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M - 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M - 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Medium - - Relic Analyzer II - Data Analyzer II - Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 - Omnidirectional Tracking Link II - 10mn afterburner II
Low - - Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer - 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II - Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II - Drone Damage Amplifier II - Damage Control II
Rig - - Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II - Medium Nanobot Accelerator II - Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Drone bay - - Bouncer II x5 - Garde II x5 - Valkyrie II x5 - Warrior II x5 - Vespa EC-600 x5 - Hornet EC-300 x5
Cargo - - Nanite Repair Paste x1,200 - Barrage M x6,800 - Hail M x6,800 - Republic Fleet EMP M x6,800 - Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M x6,800 - Navy Cap Booster 400 x12 - Warrior II x10 - Hornet EC-300 x10 - GÇÿYurtGÇÖ Mobile Depot - Mobile Tractor Units "If possible"
This will be used to do all different scannable sites in New Eden, for exploring the amazing sights to see all over New Eden, and for staying out in 0.0 for long periods of time. |
Orionos Irvam
Enso Holdings Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 21:22:00 -
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Haven't had time to think about fits as yet, damn RL getting in the way. I am wetting myself in anticipation of this ship and it's potential. Looking forward to some more exploration fits! |
Lord Lojak
C U R S E
9
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Posted - 2013.11.09 22:53:00 -
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Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:For exploring this is what I was going for
Stratios
High - - Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe - 'Smokescreen' Covert Ops Cloaking Device II - 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M - 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M - 200mm Autocannon II, Barrage M, Hail M, Republic Fleet EMP M, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Medium - - Relic Analyzer II - Data Analyzer II - Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 - Omnidirectional Tracking Link II - 10mn afterburner II
Low - - Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer - 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II - Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II - Drone Damage Amplifier II - Damage Control II
Rig - - Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II - Medium Nanobot Accelerator II - Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Drone bay - - Bouncer II x5 - Garde II x5 - Valkyrie II x5 - Warrior II x5 - Vespa EC-600 x5 - Hornet EC-300 x5
Cargo - - Nanite Repair Paste x1,200 - Barrage M x6,800 - Hail M x6,800 - Republic Fleet EMP M x6,800 - Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M x6,800 - Navy Cap Booster 400 x12 - Warrior II x10 - Hornet EC-300 x10 - GÇÿYurtGÇÖ Mobile Depot - Mobile Tractor Units "If possible"
This will be used to do all different scannable sites in New Eden, for exploring the amazing sights to see all over New Eden, and for staying out in 0.0 for long periods of time.
mind if i steal this fit for my own stratios? i rather like the way this looks
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Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
66
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Posted - 2013.11.09 23:44:00 -
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nope steal away, that's why I added this forum haha |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
331
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Posted - 2013.11.10 07:36:00 -
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I doubt the Stratios will cost a billion ISK once prices settle. Given the markup from SOE LP stores that was mentioned in the dev blogs, it might be the most expensive faction cruiser, possibly on par with a cheap navy/fleet battleship, but not like a pirate battleship (unless you count the Rattlesnake). |
Niclas Solo
TEMPLAR. Syrian Natural Gas Co.
3
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:04:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Niclas Solo wrote: So it is a myrm that can warp cloaked? maybe a little better agility? Sounds like a fun ship but paying close to 1 bil for that?
"little better agility???" Its extremely agile. Its agility is between that of a cynabal and a vigilant, which are both absurdly agile ships. w/ my skills, with no armor plates, stratios has a 4 second align time. nonplated myrmidon has a 8.4s align time.
Oh yes i updated EFT and played with it, very nice agility :)
But the first guy posting a fit say he can only use 4 heavys, EFT say my bandwidth is 125. So who is right, 4 or 5 heavys?
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
959
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:44:00 -
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Depends on if they keep the 500 CPU. As it stands now its pretty OP IMHO. But nice, and worth it.
Working on a C3 fit now. |
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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
30
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Posted - 2013.11.10 12:45:00 -
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Zeba wrote:Both the frigate and cruiser will be worth every isk provided you have a competent gang to run with. Solo should be viable but that will take some fancy faction fits. As for me I'll be all over the astero. Explorers beware after rubicon hits.
Nice portrait. |
Shrike Arghast
Aliastra Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:27:00 -
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Bethan Le Troix wrote:Zeba wrote:Both the frigate and cruiser will be worth every isk provided you have a competent gang to run with. Solo should be viable but that will take some fancy faction fits. As for me I'll be all over the astero. Explorers beware after rubicon hits. Nice portrait.
It's funny, I was thinking the exact same thing. Very pretty character. |
Enslaved Mistress
Perkone Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:33:00 -
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[quote]Bethan Le Troix wrote: Zeba wrote: Both the frigate and cruiser will be worth every isk provided you have a competent gang to run with.
Solo should be viable but that will take some fancy faction fits.
As for me I'll be all over the astero. Explorers beware after rubicon hits.
Nice portrait.
It's funny, I was thinking the exact same thing. Very pretty character./quote]
Interesting, but now back to topic please. fits people! |
Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
66
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Posted - 2013.11.10 19:39:00 -
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Question.
Becauses in High sec at the SoE stations where else can you cash in the SoE LP to get the SoE Ships? And how much LP will it cost for the BCUs and ships in high sec and low/null sec?
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Thaddeus Eggeras
TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
66
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Posted - 2013.11.11 04:47:00 -
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If I am in 0.0 at a SoE Academy, I shouldn't get the 50% knock up on the SoE ship prices right? It would be the same as all other faction ships and BPs? |
Dato Koppla
Retribution Innovations
343
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Posted - 2013.11.11 05:32:00 -
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Here's an all-in-one exploration fit I was thinking of:
[Stratios, Exploration]
Medium Armor Repairer II Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I 10MN Afterburner II Relic Analyzer II Data Analyzer II Large Capacitor Battery II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Ogre II x4 Garde II x4 Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Wasp EC-900 x4 Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
You should bring a some extra drones: different heavies/sentries/extra lights/mediums, some Scorch/Conflag, a set of different hardeners, an extra T2 medium repper, 3 cap rechargers and the Mobile depot so you can refit for up to 6/10 DED plexes with the fit I posted earlier in the thread, as well as being able to do exploration sites. I would also bringg some nanos/warpstabs/plates/shield extenders/neuts for a travel fit for travelling around more hostile areas of nullsec, with a proper travel fit you'll be nigh uncatchable except for the biggest and most well organized gatecamps.
This is going to be the best all-in-one explorer by a mile. |
Janna Windforce
EVE University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.11.11 06:42:00 -
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Correct me if i am wrong, but the PvP surprise factor is pretty much gimped by no reduction in targeting delay after decloak? Especially with the warp speed changes, almost everything will be gone in 10s before you can start locking stuff up. |
Dato Koppla
Retribution Innovations
343
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:11:00 -
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Janna Windforce wrote:Correct me if i am wrong, but the PvP surprise factor is pretty much gimped by no reduction in targeting delay after decloak? Especially with the warp speed changes, almost everything will be gone in 10s before you can start locking stuff up.
The cloaking skill reduces the sensor recalibration time by 10% per level, so with cloaking 5 it's a 5 second delay. It's very workable, you can also utilize bumping to ensure that you get a lock on on ships that are pre-aligned/fast aligning. Also the warp speed changes do not change the align time so ships will still align the same as they did before. You can also fit a sensor booster to assist in getting the lock on faster.
I used a cloaky Proteus for WH hunting (with no sensor booster) and even with the 5 second delay I never had a ship manage to warp away from me before I got a lock on. You should decloak and immediately OH your MWD and barrel into them to give them a good bump if they're pre-aligned or in a fast aligning ship and have all your tackle gear OH'd so they can't escape the range. Basically your prey has to be on the ball AND be in a very fast aligning ship in order to get away in time. It's not as good as having the recalibration bonus, but it's still pretty good. |
Janna Windforce
EVE University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.11.11 11:08:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Janna Windforce wrote:Correct me if i am wrong, but the PvP surprise factor is pretty much gimped by no reduction in targeting delay after decloak? Especially with the warp speed changes, almost everything will be gone in 10s before you can start locking stuff up. The cloaking skill reduces the sensor recalibration time by 10% per level, so with cloaking 5 it's a 5 second delay. It's very workable, you can also utilize bumping to ensure that you get a lock on on ships that are pre-aligned/fast aligning. Also the warp speed changes do not change the align time so ships will still align the same as they did before. You can also fit a sensor booster to assist in getting the lock on faster. I used a cloaky Proteus for WH hunting (with no sensor booster) and even with the 5 second delay I never had a ship manage to warp away from me before I got a lock on. You should decloak and immediately OH your MWD and barrel into them to give them a good bump if they're pre-aligned or in a fast aligning ship and have all your tackle gear OH'd so they can't escape the range. Basically your prey has to be on the ball AND be in a very fast aligning ship in order to get away in time. It's not as good as having the recalibration bonus, but it's still pretty good.
All right, when you put it this was, it looks more workable :) |
Texty
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:29:00 -
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Niclas Solo wrote:Batelle wrote:Niclas Solo wrote: So it is a myrm that can warp cloaked? maybe a little better agility? Sounds like a fun ship but paying close to 1 bil for that?
"little better agility???" Its extremely agile. Its agility is between that of a cynabal and a vigilant, which are both absurdly agile ships. w/ my skills, with no armor plates, stratios has a 4 second align time. nonplated myrmidon has a 8.4s align time. Oh yes i updated EFT and played with it, very nice agility :) But the first guy posting a fit say he can only use 4 heavys, EFT say my bandwidth is 125. So who is right, 4 or 5 heavys? At first it was 5, but now it's 4.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3685070#post3685070 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3779102#post3779102 |
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