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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14568
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:36:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote: I cannot.
Yep that just about sums it up, you're trying to apply mass marketing theory to a market that is by its very nature, niche, not a mass market. You should take your obvious marketing, business and economics prowess to a company such as Ferrari, which incidentally operates in a niche market, and see how fast they kick you out of the door for being ignorant of the market sector they compete in. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17388
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:37:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Well, I was enjoying the conversation. You're learningGǪ this is very dangerous.
:mr-bruns-excellent: GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
106
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:38:00 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:All I need to go to lo-sec is a nice frigate, but I'd rather not lose my pod, or I would have gone already.. Jump clones could help since you can jump into a pvp clone and keep all your implants safe. Also spamming warp to something before you pop in a fight will make your pod instawarp out. Once you learn that you will lose your pod a lot less
So I should read up on jump clones?
I hope it isn't too long to skill up to that. Because I am itching for some PVP after reading the pirate thread in C&P. :D |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS type X
96
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:40:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Two words, niche market. It's easy to be extremely successful while holding a small overall market share, businesses such as bespoke tailors, luxury vehicle manufacturers, yacht makers, etc all remain in business and make sizeable amounts of money despite a very low overall market share. Primarily because they're not aiming at the overall market, they are aiming at a very specific, albeit expensive, subset of that market.
CCP are aiming Eve at a very specific subset of the gaming market, one where players appreciate a game with very few rules and where a nighs dammit completely player driven experience is available if they want to be part of it. Most gamers don't want that, they'd rather play a game where they're the hero, very few games offer the opportunity of being a villain.
You're not getting it. Ferrari is a niche market but if the number of rich people on the planet were to increase from 1 million to 5 million and Ferrari sales increased from 1000 cars per year to 2000 cars per year they have gained actual buyer count but lost market share and market share is a much more robust measure of a corporations strategy than simple looking at whether they have more customers this year than last year. Now do you get it? But you could "know" the amount of rich people increased. Where is your evidence that the kinds of players who would like EVE have increased? The *only* thing you 'know" is that there are more people now than there was yesterday, you don't know whether they are people interested in what EVE has to offer. You have no solid basis from which to justify your opinion that CCP has somehow "failed" to do anything. If EVE was a "mass appeal" game then you could say that CCPs lack of increasing subs by gamers who like that sort of thing represents a loss in market share. But EVE is niche, so no one really knows. Stop trying to pass off you assumptions as fact.
Market share and how market share works are 'facts' that you dont understand the dynamics of market share and all that implies doesn't make them any less a fact. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1693
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:42:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:I cannot. A forum by its very nature isnt a vessel for teaching. I would suggest taking some college courses in economics and business if you are truly interested in understanding my argument.
I've taken a "few courses" in both, and you're wrong.
Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14568
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:42:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:All I need to go to lo-sec is a nice frigate, but I'd rather not lose my pod, or I would have gone already.. Jump clones could help since you can jump into a pvp clone and keep all your implants safe. Also spamming warp to something before you pop in a fight will make your pod instawarp out. Once you learn that you will lose your pod a lot less So I should read up on jump clones? I hope it isn't too long to skill up to that. Because I am itching for some PVP after reading the pirate thread in C&P. :D The skill training isn't that bad, and there's a player run service that enables you to have jumpclones without having to grind up the +8 corporate standings. I am furnishing this post "as is" I do not provide any warranty whatsoever, whether express, implied, or statutory, including, but not limited to, any relevance or fitness for purpose or any warranty that the contents herein are error-free.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3317
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:42:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
Market share and how market share works are 'facts' that you dont understand the dynamics of market share and all that implies doesn't make them any less a fact.
I understand that you ms-identified the market lol.
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Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1006
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:42:00 -
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Posting in a joke thread about how to poo up EVE ONLINE / High sec:
- Everyone has to pay some entity to undock their ships (you're all renters now) - You can't fly anything here except mining barges and transport ships or you pay the 'war tax' (to another separate entity) - Alt accounts are show the mains on the account so you can laugh at the null seccers trying to hide their identity and run missions in peace and quiet - new APIs will become public that show what missions you run and when you last ran them. - NPCs will yield killmails - Asteroids depleted will yield killmails - Going AFK will disconnect you after 60seconds of no activity. To log back in, you have to watch an advert - Wars tap the corp wallet and every cycle (60 seconds), the coffers are raided until A) The war is stopped or B) the coffers run out of ISK, inwhich case random pilots ships are reclaimed by concord to pay the bills.
hehe
oh wait, this was supposed to be a serious thread?
I got trolled!!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17388
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:43:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:So I should read up on jump clones?
I hope it isn't too long to skill up to that. Because I am itching for some PVP after reading the pirate thread in C&P. :D You definitely should. Start by looking up the skill: Infomorph Psycholog. These days, there are a couple of support skills in the GÇ£Neural EnhancementGÇ¥ category.
The skill isn't problematic to train forGǪ but getting the standings required for installing them unfortunately is. There are other ways to get jump clones than through NPC entities GÇö people are running cloning services using Rorquals and the like GÇö but you'll have to search for those. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1132
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:47:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
I cannot. A forum by its very nature isnt a vessel for teaching. I would suggest taking some college courses in economics and business if you are truly interested in understanding my argument.
Flat out wrong dude, this pseudo-intellectualism you have going is hilarious keep it coming. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
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Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:48:00 -
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Just as a reminder, it's very hard to get podded outside of null sec. In low sec what might kill your pod is: - lag -smart bombs -some specific gate camps (even then not that much of a pod threat).
If you spaw warp to when your ship is about to explode it will warp away before they can get a lock on you.
Also if you want a jump clone without working for the standings https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8574
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
106
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:50:00 -
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Sweet info, thanks.
I'd heard about them. Something to think about taking on, but right now I'm getting a huge training boost from a booster that's going to disappear soon anyway. After that, I'll train this and get started on safe PVP and then... I'm coming for you. Watch out! :) |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
106
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:52:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Sweet info, thanks.
I'd heard about them. Something to think about taking on, but right now I'm getting a huge training boost from a booster that's going to disappear soon anyway. After that, I'll train this and get started on safe PVP and then... I'm coming for you. Watch out! :)
This to say, "Thanks," I figure the best way to thank people for info is to give them another target to fight. :) |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
143
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:03:00 -
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Posting in a thinly veiled "highsec players are Untermensch because they don't play how I want them" to thread. Don't Panic.
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Temporary Amnesia
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
43
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:00:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:For a more realistic Answer:
Removal of all highsec industry slots.
The additional of a rental system, so players can, anonymously, rent industry time from other players POS (or similar)
This
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
387
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:15:00 -
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With all this discussion about alts here, there, and everywhere, I really do wonder just how many human players are actually playing this silly game... |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
107
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:18:00 -
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One. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
753
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Posted - 2013.11.14 18:43:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:Faction Navies go bye-bye. If there's a Smuggler/Outlaw/Enemy Militia outside the station, it should be the players who go after them. Would put some much needed Highsec PvP back in after Crimewatch and Inferno killed most of it.
I agree, although I enjoy other aspects of Crimewatch. I find that these NPC's actually prevent aspiring pvp-ers to gang up on an experienced outlaw. When I did something that is an illegal action, I'd prefer the players to have a shot at me instead of having to run from an NPC police mechanic. I've recently been fined because of smuggling, all I get is some dumb faction decrease and they take away my booster. Why not make me a suspect and announce my transgression instead? I feel criminals should be Suspect flagged first, arbitrarily penalized second. |
Victor Dathar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
135
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:36:00 -
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If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face GÇö forever ^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7 |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
120
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:49:00 -
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Why do goons keep saying that? |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17412
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Posted - 2013.11.14 20:45:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Well, funny that. Seems a lot more people are buying into my crackpot theories after last week's live events. And let's see how tinfoil things are after Thursday's twitch announcements from the Ayn Rand fanatic.
I expect there will be a lot of gloating by the cartels, and a lot of shock from high sec players (though there should not be at this point). So how would you say that your paranoid-delusional predictions played out in relation to reality this time? Is it the character select screen that will spell the doom of all you hold dear? Or is it the Kevin Bacon Implants that Manifest promisedGǪ?
Quote:Attack me all you want, but the fact is that every day, we see something more from CCP demonstrating their disdain of high sec, every release they chip away at its profitability and safety, every release they transfer more cash flow into the hands of the select few running the cartels. Do you have any examples GÇö past, present, or future GÇö of this actually happening?
Quote:And I can only imagine what tidbits as yet unknown to general masses are going to be discovered in the release notes for Rubicon. So what is it you imagine?
Jythier Smith wrote:Why do goons keep saying that? Because it makes Dinsdale's head explode, and everyone loves a good fireworks display. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5154
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Quote:Attack me all you want, but the fact is that every day, we see something more from CCP demonstrating their disdain of high sec, every release they chip away at its profitability and safety, every release they transfer more cash flow into the hands of the select few running the cartels. Do you have any examples GÇö past, present, or future GÇö of this actually happening? In the future, they will reverse all the concord buffs There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Isis Dea
State Protectorate Caldari State
353
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:25:00 -
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How about being able to affect arcs of the story? How about being able to get more involved within mere missions and expand further within your power as a capsuleer WITHIN the four empires?
Thread link to where we're debating this already, amongst a slew of other ideas. |
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