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Seranova Farreach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
449
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Posted - 2013.11.22 22:43:00 -
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i strongly disagree with "plex 4" what ever i believe even ccp once said they wouldn't ever implement plex for renames based around a name could have built a reputation so that is the risk for buying rather then skilling a character.
plex prices are already rather costly with the current plex 4 whatever on top of the various price spikes due to Plex-Aid's.
I vote NO to a rename on the grounds it could easily be abused by transferring a character to another account for the soul purpose of getting a name change after doing an AWOX or corp theft or what ever.. and on the grounds that plex is getting ridiculous |
Vanja Mojisola
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
2
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:17:00 -
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As long as block lists and contacts are preserved, then I don't see the problem with name changes. A history of name changes could be attached to the character.
Presumably every character has a unique ID associated with it in the database, and the name is just a property. If all contacts, blocks, etc are associated with that UUID rather than with the username, it should be trivial to update the name and retain all metadata and graphs that character is associated with. |
Vanja Mojisola
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
2
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:18:00 -
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I would love to rename all my alts to have the same "last name" so as to reduce confusion with my corpmates. |
BigSako
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
90
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Posted - 2013.11.23 03:36:00 -
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let's introduce another ******** plex isk sink in the game. oh wait, that's what ccp wants. |
Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
17
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Posted - 2013.11.24 14:25:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Tora Hamaji wrote:Evei Shard wrote:Chribba wrote:I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead... Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response? I don't think he understood my post at all. Oh he understood it completely and I agree with him. If you don't like the name of a char you are looking at buying, then don't buy it. The one thing you fail to understand, is that this change means everyone will be able to use this service. Even if they are not selling their char on, to another party.
Agreed. You shouldn't be able to obscure your identity in a persistent world like EvE, where reputation matters.
Might be popular among certain groups in the game, just like instantly travelling from one place to another would be in a lot of mmos but it's still a terrible idea and harmful to the game. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
623
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:40:00 -
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GreasyCarl Semah wrote:You mean my character DONKEYFLUFFER457 who terrorized the Outer Rim in 2008 is about to get a new lease on life?
Be still my heart!
+1 for the name DONKEYFLUFFER457 Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Tora Hamaji
Republic University Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.12.01 20:07:00 -
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Fifth Blade wrote:Mag's wrote:Tora Hamaji wrote:Evei Shard wrote:Chribba wrote:I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead... Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response? I don't think he understood my post at all. Oh he understood it completely and I agree with him. If you don't like the name of a char you are looking at buying, then don't buy it. The one thing you fail to understand, is that this change means everyone will be able to use this service. Even if they are not selling their char on, to another party. Agreed. You shouldn't be able to obscure your identity in a persistent world like EvE, where reputation matters. Might be popular among certain groups in the game, just like instantly travelling from one place to another would be in a lot of mmos but it's still a terrible idea and harmful to the game.
there is no way to escape your identity or identities because they will be FOREVER displayed when someone shows info on you and goes to past names tab!
and if if they search your old name then your new char will appear there as well!
i can't stand people with thick brains. read the freaking OP! |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1268
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Posted - 2013.12.01 20:14:00 -
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So if you can't escape the old identity and the terrible and/or undesired name remains there for everyone to see, what's the point of changing your name?
There's no difference and thus no point and thus your request has no merit. |
Kazumi Kouvo
The Hidden Cafe
0
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Posted - 2013.12.01 21:29:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:So if you can't escape the old identity and the terrible and/or undesired name remains there for everyone to see, what's the point of changing your name?
There's no difference and thus no point and thus your request has no merit.
Because the changed name would be the main thing you see, not the old name. The old name would just be there so people don't try to change their identity every time the old one is worn out.
And your point has no merit. A person could really change their name, but the old name would still be in City Hall's records somewhere. I'm 13 and I play EVE. I hope that doesn't change the way you fly in fleets with me. :3 |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
4387
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:09:00 -
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Tora Hamaji wrote:One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.
If you don't like the name, don't buy the character. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
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Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
164
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Posted - 2013.12.02 03:29:00 -
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The only way I could get behind this would be if there was a character name history like there is one for employment, and current standings follows you even if someone has you marked -10.0 as your old name. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
Kontrapshun
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.02 05:33:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...
Agree 100%... I would go one farther and remove Character sales completely. Don't skill/name what you can't afford to use.... so many exploits in the game already, with the buy the win vibe. |
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
126
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Posted - 2013.12.02 10:03:00 -
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Simply add a 'formerly known as' element to character info. That's all you have to do to make this work. |
Swiftstrike1
Interfector INC. Fade 2 Black
363
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Posted - 2013.12.02 10:20:00 -
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This service should only ever be made available to people who buy a character from the bazar and even then I'm pretty sceptical... There's too much scope for people to escape their reputations. Fleet Bookmarks New Gravimetric Sites Med Clones 2.0 |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
946
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Posted - 2013.12.02 10:21:00 -
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Please NO!
Not everyone has the time to check a bio of an unknown before performing an action.
Also, if you are that concerned about the name of a character, then make that part of your decision in the character bazaar.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
175
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:34:00 -
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Tora Hamaji wrote:As the title says.
Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.
One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.
it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?
Edit: this feature should not be a way to purge identity and history. the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere. The character should also be found when someone searches for the old name. scammers and spies souldn't be able to escape the consequences with just a simple name change.
Give it time, this feature is probably in the list of features they will add when the profit on eve is going down and they ran out of idea's. But it will not happen for now since they can add get more profit in different ways. |
Claud Tiberius
The Loathsome Lions
3
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Posted - 2013.12.02 11:59:00 -
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I agree there should be a way to rename characters.
I do not think there should be any Plex fee ($16/600 mill isk, to just rename your character would be ridiculous). Instead perhaps something like: you may only change your name once every 6 months.
Wild guess: I assume every character has a unique ID so the name doesn't matter if it is changed. Previously saved contacts, standings, bounties, etc, should all work as normal i.e.: based on the ID of the character, not the names.
Something to add to the to-do list but imo, there are better things to improve in the game. |
Anomaly One
90
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:09:00 -
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EvE has consequences!
Unless you.. Change your name have alts buy your character buy plex
Face it, you know that if this was implemented most people will get deceived by the new name because that is what they see first so you pretty much negate all your bad reputation for a while until they figure it out and then you do it again.
And there's another thing you haven't though of let's say a person with good reputation changes his name, is his old name now available to everyone else? so pretty much ultimate scams with this on first sight, cheating people via the UI. And yea people are gonna have time to check names in local while they're fighting for specific name changes.. (hint: they won't) yea we really need more of this ****
/sigh *~~*running my own mission and have some class bully run up and blow me up because they think its funny, then give the excuses that I was just firing fireworks at you*~~* |
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
126
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Posted - 2013.12.02 12:13:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:EvE has consequences!
Unless you.. Change your name have alts buy your character buy plex
Face it, you know that if this was implemented most people will get deceived by the new name because that is what they see first so you pretty much negate all your bad reputation for a while until they figure it out and then you do it again.
And there's another thing you haven't though of let's say a person with good reputation changes his name, is his old name now available to everyone else? so pretty much ultimate scams with this on first sight, cheating people via the UI. And yea people are gonna have time to check names in local while they're fighting for specific name changes.. (hint: they won't) yea we really need more of this ****
/sigh
As long as changing your name doesn't change your standing with people I don't see a huge issue, but maybe I'm just naive. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
946
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Posted - 2013.12.02 13:01:00 -
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Zvaarian the Red wrote:
As long as changing your name doesn't change your standing with people I don't see a huge issue, but maybe I'm just naive.
Its fairly simple. Say I have you set to RED, because I know you like to come to my system and blow-up miners.
So, you enter my system, I see a new RED and I see your name. You are KNOWN to me, I then take appropriate action.
You change your name. [you are still red to me, and somewhere in your character profile it says AKA: Zvaarian the Red]
This time you enter my system. Despite the fact that I 'KNOW' you, you are an 'UNKNOWN' because I no longer recognize your name. I can either take action without knowing the full facts. Or waste time checking your BIO to see if you have ever been a name I 'KNOW'.
For every name I don't recognize, I have to check the BIO to see if they used to go under an name I do recognize.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
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Tora Hamaji
Republic University Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:35:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:Zvaarian the Red wrote:
As long as changing your name doesn't change your standing with people I don't see a huge issue, but maybe I'm just naive.
Its fairly simple. Say I have you set to RED, because I know you like to come to my system and blow-up miners. So, you enter my system, I see a new RED and I see your name. You are KNOWN to me, I then take appropriate action. You change your name. [you are still red to me, and somewhere in your character profile it says AKA: Zvaarian the Red] This time you enter my system. Despite the fact that I 'KNOW' you, you are an 'UNKNOWN' because I no longer recognize your name. I can either take action without knowing the full facts. Or waste time checking your BIO to see if you have ever been a name I 'KNOW'. For every name I don't recognize, I have to check the BIO to see if they used to go under an name I do recognize.
1) if you ignore a red just because it's a name you don't recognize then you're an idiot.
2) eve is run mostly on basis of alliance/corp, not individual names. yes there are individuals that matter, but nothing that will be affected by this idea.
3) read the freaking OP. you'll be able to show info on him and check past names, and recognize him there! |
Izumi Moto
Panther Expedited Solutions Inc.
2
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Posted - 2014.01.10 03:16:00 -
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Actually... I don't understand why we don't have this feature. it was already implemented in CEVE since july 2, 2013...
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1k9yp5/ |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
337
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Posted - 2014.01.10 11:09:00 -
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For the record; This gets a big fat minus one (-1) from me.
OP should also have done his/her due diligence by doing a search on the forums, this silly idea pops up frequently enough so that an open topic should always be available for continuing the discussion on it. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Izumi Moto
Panther Expedited Solutions Inc.
2
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:32:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:For the record; This gets a big fat minus one (-1) from me.
OP should also have done his/her due diligence by doing a search on the forums, this silly idea pops up frequently enough so that an open topic should always be available for continuing the discussion on it.
I understand some people don't like the idea. but just cause you and I don't like or want the idea, doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. a lot of people was against the PLEX system. they thought it would break the game. needless to say the system is in game.I also seen on the old forums where devs said it wouldn't happen. but yet it did on CEVE. I personally could care less. but I think if you offer a service to some, that service should be offered to all. if some people want to waste their ISK/PLEX/currency on this then let them. |
Callic Veratar
577
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:21:00 -
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I like the idea of adding a name history with a change being the price of a PLEX. Everything should be maintained due to the change including contacts and standing and all that.
However, I don't think it should be in isolation. Add in a call sign system that lets us label contact however we want. |
Izumi Moto
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.01.17 10:19:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:I like the idea of adding a name history with a change being the price of a PLEX. Everything should be maintained due to the change including contacts and standing and all that.
However, I don't think it should be in isolation. Add in a call sign system that lets us label contact however we want.
I'm sure it would use the same model CEVE does. |
Saint Vaiti
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:14:00 -
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I'm with Izumi Moto. I don't get why this isn't a feature is available on the Chinese server and not here. Is there some sort of technical issue that exists that was solved with that server so that it couldn't be copied here? |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1194
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:24:00 -
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in before CEVE players demand a stop to letting ppl change their names.
just because an idea is implemented, doesnt mean its good. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
74
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:33:00 -
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Tora Hamaji wrote:And most importantly, its not only for those who buy characters. a lot of people end up hating the name they chose once when they were drunk, and now they're stuck with it forever just because?
Which goes to show that you should not drink and engage in creative activities. At least, don't get drunk.
But on topic - overly I am against the idea. Though it would be somewhat acceptable if, and only if the prior name were retained. Character Name: Blah Blah AKA: Blah Bl4h Blah, AKA: Blip Blah
etc...
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
1194
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:46:00 -
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Petrified wrote:Tora Hamaji wrote:And most importantly, its not only for those who buy characters. a lot of people end up hating the name they chose once when they were drunk, and now they're stuck with it forever just because? Which goes to show that you should not drink and engage in creative activities. At least, don't get drunk. But on topic - overly I am against the idea. Though it would be somewhat acceptable if, and only if the prior name were retained. Character Name: Blah Blah AKA: Blah Bl4h Blah, AKA: Blip Blah etc...
it would have to be the new names that are the AKA's. when everyone shows info, it needs to be his original name, on my overview it needs to be his original name, on guest list in station it needs to be his original name and in local it needs to be his original name. And everyone must see the same original name.
if one person is talking about name A, to his friend who is talking about name B, and these two players dont realise they are talking about the same person, then hunting players and target calling, and everything that is to do with a name becomes ridiculously confusing and broken. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
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