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flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2349
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:20:00 -
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One of tha rare times i have seen a thread on C&P getting locked because it lacked ''content'' .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
110
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Posted - 2014.07.24 19:37:00 -
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flakeys wrote:One of tha rare times i have seen a thread on C&P getting locked because it lacked ''content'' . technically, it was locked for second-hand embarassment |
Aaron
Section 32.
151
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Posted - 2014.07.24 20:44:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:A shame. This is your Fate, Aaron, so long as you continue to aggressively pursue milking people by placing them in an environment they cannot survive in without your intervention you will always ALWAYS fail.
Any sci-fi, horror film or tv episode i've seen where survival is the main goal has always been epic. Is there a rule which says it can not be attempted in a video game?
I find i have to make sure I have a bucket load of salt when reading some of the posts here, the area I live in is exactly where I want to be, I enjoy the game play and I enjoy the struggle. I also like the idea of being able to mobilize myself in such a way which makes it difficult for the enemy to kill me.
What I would have liked is for pilots who have a healthy understanding of survival to come and work with me so that we can do the dirty work involved in the initial setup of the area so it would be possible for normal people to come here and contribute. I think lots of people mis-understood what the goal of the venture is and how to go about it. I am still fine with people coming here to blue me and have limited interaction with me , I'd say that you will find it difficult and maybe better off elsewhere.
For the beginning of this venture I was looking for people who had no problem with me having a heavy involvement in developing and executing pvp strategy which would involve working as a team to get the resource to build the ships we need and ensuring we have the finance to replace it. Its also about having the skill to execute sophisticated pvp ops where we've taken lots of time to know exactly how our enemy operates.
The goal of this venture is to populate null-sec, I must say, too many of you seem to want to cut out the steps that must be taken in order to achieve the goal.
And why are people talking like this is over? Did you read a post with me declaring it was over? I will still be here helping the people that want an adventure.
Someone once said "Hub Zero without Aaron is like alcohol free beer"
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15741
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Posted - 2014.07.24 21:06:00 -
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This thread is best when read in Spanish with a loud heartbeat in the background.
Aaron stands in the doorway, his long sleeved salmon-colored shirt unbuttoned.
Aaron wrote: Maria! Mi amor! -+Y por qu+¬ la gente habla como esto se acabe?
::heartbeat::
-+Has le+¡do un post conmigo declarando que todo hab+¡a terminado? No..NO!
::heartbeat::
Todav+¡a estar+¬ aqu+¡ ... ayudar a la gente que quiere una aventura.
Aaron turns and walks out the door. Zoom in slowly on Maria, whos mascara is running from her tears. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
244
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Posted - 2014.07.24 21:06:00 -
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Aaron wrote:And why are people talking like this is over? Did you read a post with me declaring it was over? I will still be here helping the people that want an adventure.
What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now! |
Aaron
Section 32.
151
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Posted - 2014.07.24 21:08:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
Stepping away from the drama that occurred here, I would suggest that the concept was a success in that it did actually operate and grow, however we did not manage to create a functioning market in the time we were there and our PvP group was not effective.
I'm not sure why you are still here posting. I think in order for whatever I do to be a success I will need to cut all ties with you. You tried to bring drama to this thread expecting me to have a "meltdown", I am calm and thinking clearly and I will ask you to stop posting here.
You imply that this is over when that is not the case, what gives you the right exactly? It seems to me that you want to lead people to think a certain way.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie |
Nathaniel Raynaud
Space Interstellar Reclamation Services
110
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Posted - 2014.07.24 21:08:00 -
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Aaron wrote: Someone once said "Hub Zero without Aaron is like alcohol free beer"
well, |
Sky' Darkstar
Dark Star Operations.
65
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Posted - 2014.07.24 22:16:00 -
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Aaron wrote: I'm not sure why you are still here posting.
Lol I love how this guy is so repeatedly confused on why people are posting on his hilariously drama filled fail of a project forum thread that is in general discussion.
-Sky' |
flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2351
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:45:00 -
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Aaron wrote:Dracvlad wrote:
Stepping away from the drama that occurred here, I would suggest that the concept was a success in that it did actually operate and grow, however we did not manage to create a functioning market in the time we were there and our PvP group was not effective.
I'm not sure why you are still here posting. I think in order for whatever I do to be a success I will need to cut all ties with you. You tried to bring drama to this thread expecting me to have a "meltdown", I am calm and thinking clearly and I will ask you to stop posting here. You imply that this is over when that is not the case, what gives you the right exactly? It seems to me that you want to lead people to think a certain way.
IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM COOCOOO .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6440
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:44:00 -
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Aaron wrote:And why are people talking like this is over? Did you read a post with me declaring it was over? I will still be here helping the people that want an adventure. Someone once said "Hub Zero without Aaron is like alcohol free beer" "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Sky' Darkstar
Dark Star Operations.
66
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:03:00 -
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Daily Bump. -Sky' |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15775
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:25:00 -
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Aaron comes back a while later to find the emotionally shaken Maria still standing there.. crying.
Aaron wrote:Creo que para que cualquier cosa que haga para ser un +¬xito que tendr+í que cortar todos los lazos con usted.
::heartbeat::
Maria starts to sob uncontrollably.
Ha intentado traer teatro a este hilo esperando que yo tenga una "crisis"...
Maria slowly stops sobbing.. and stares into Aarons eyes..
estoy tranquilo y pensar con claridad..
::heartbeat::
A hopeful glimmer appears in Maria's teary eyes.
y voy a pedirle que deje de publicar aqu+¡.
Maria looks as if her very soul has been crushed.
::heartbeat::
Maria faints. Aaron makes no effort to catch her. He stands over her collapsed body for a few seconds, and once again leaves the room.
I don't know about you guys, but this show is getting good! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
3972
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Posted - 2014.07.25 16:54:00 -
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What an amazing pair of finds. I love information warfare. .. when everything else is gone .. |
Aaron
Section 32.
154
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:11:00 -
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Hey,
I was able to get some feedback from members of the community and I can understand why Drac did what he did. I realize now that I was the one who made a hasty decision and prompted what came after. I fully understand now that in order for me to be involved in this I must change. We are operating under a policy where no one is in charge.
There are some positives here, even with all the drama going on the community remained blue to one another and no one fired a single shot. We are stronger than we initially thought and perhaps when the dust settles we could have a chat about the possibilities.
It seems this is not the end for our community. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie |
Sky' Darkstar
Dark Star Operations.
68
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:27:00 -
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Aaron wrote:Hey,
I was able to get some feedback from members of the community and I can understand why Drac did what he did. I realize now that I was the one who made a hasty decision and prompted what came after. I fully understand now that in order for me to be involved in this I must change. We are operating under a policy where no one is in charge.
There are some positives here, even with all the drama going on the community remained blue to one another and no one fired a single shot. We are stronger than we initially thought and perhaps when the dust settles we could have a chat about the possibilities.
It seems this is not the end for our community.
Thank God. I was worried for a little bit there. -Sky' |
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
140
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:39:00 -
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Damn... it's been 5 years already since that thread got started. Where the f*ck did the time go
It's amusing how little have things changed, and how similar the dynamics and posts there are to this thread. Groundhog Lustrum. Well, at least in the meantime Aaron has learned how to properly spell "you".
Aaron, I actually like you, even if you are off your rocker, someday it would be nice to kick back and share some good ganja and laughs with you, take care. |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
246
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:03:00 -
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Aaron was a more noteworthy fellow when it was him, all alone, refusing to budge from his beloved home, UF-KKH. He was still a tragic figure but there was something admirable about his ferocious tenacity.
If he'd recognize his own limitations and realize that he is NOT a natural leader or a good PVP'er or someone who remains calm under pressure, or a clear and incisive thinker, this 2nd iteration might have been more successful than the first.
Unfortunately, he lures people down under the false pretense that 'nobody's in charge' and that 'we'll all just be blue to each other' and then when people naturally gravitate to other people, who actually DO have leadership ability, he gets jealous and resentful and starts trying to claim a throne that isn't his (or anyone's) to take.
What happened this time is almost exactly what happened the last time. Plus +ºa change ... |
Allannon kado
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.07.26 02:01:00 -
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Listen to the M.A.S.H. theme song OP. It's pretty chill. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
901
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:07:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote: ...however after a certain amount of time a NCDOT player with multiple accounts decided to start playing again and decided to farm Hub Zero, he organised with friends and their accounts and he saturated the area with cloaky ships with a capacity behind them that made it difficult to operate, that player is very good at it, but it is the type of combat that is destroying Eve, ganking of PvE boats and only fighting if they could attack with no risk of loss...
Being rude to people on forums can make that happen. Like, forever.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Orions Lord
NeoCom Systems
10
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:21:00 -
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I did like the concept of Hub-Zero and it actual is working already.
I am a bit surprised about the drama atm, and was wondering if I would change from being blue to become red to Hub-Zero. And just start killing all those little blue dots in the area.
But I became weak and I think the pilots off Hub-Zero are nice gents so now I don't know anymore what to do. I will gank some miners in High Sec in frustration in the mean time...
I really like Dracvlad I will stand behind him (not when he drops the soap). But Drac is to nice he went out to high to get stuff for the market many times I bought him out in Stain so he could buy even more stuff. There is about 15bil on it now and this will dry out so the locals must now really pull up their pants and call black frog for their stuff. Because I am not going to seed the market anymore.
There are loads of options to get your stuff over even if you are new.
I will stay in Stain because it's a different place then other 0.0 area's because of the Hub-Zero concept. The group was just about to get a decent PVP wing when all this drama went on.
Well at least there is nobody telling me anymore what to do here and I like that. So I will just see where this is going and keep the blue ones blue and grab some 'bad woman' in the mean time or . |
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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
344
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:15:00 -
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Not sure why but from what I understand you can only set up one station per null sec system. If this is true I think it should change. |
Aaron
Section 32.
156
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:21:00 -
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Orions Lord wrote:
Hub-Zero are nice gents so now I don't know anymore what to do.
I'd say try to get into in-depth convo's with people and get an idea of what people are thinking to do. One thing I have accepted is that once the drama kicked off only 1 or 2 guys spoke with me directly to find out what had happened and why. Lots of other people seemed to just accept what other people had told them about me.
I think there was a lack of communication, I had a plan on how we could fight the hostiles effectively and earn a megaton of isk so we could afford to take on our enemies. Was I trying to manage all of you from top to bottom? No, my goal was to respond to the threats that exist here and counteract them and asking the community to help me by listening. I felt I had made it crystal clear many times that in order to fight our enemies it would be important that we worked as a well organised team.
I agree that we did have a pvp group, but we never took the time to review and agree on fittings and ship types and analyse how our enemy attacked, it seemed that all we wanted to do was undock and primary the first hostile ship we saw which resulted in loss for some of us.
It was my actions that lead to people coming here to dwell so I take full responsibility for how things are now. Right now my main focus is to prepare for the next attempt at this which will probably be in the next couple of years. I plan to build a corp with lots of members and then I will invite other people to join us as allies and protect them.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:25:00 -
[893] - Quote
RAIN Arthie wrote:Not sure why but from what I understand you can only set up one station per null sec system. If this is true I think it should change.
It is true, and is unlikely to change because of the age of the code involved. It's probably worse than the POS code as a problem to be solved, and is a relatively low priority one.
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RAIN Arthie
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
344
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:29:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:RAIN Arthie wrote:Not sure why but from what I understand you can only set up one station per null sec system. If this is true I think it should change. It is true, and is unlikely to change because of the age of the code involved. It's probably worse than the POS code as a problem to be solved, and is a relatively low priority one.
Interesting. I wonder if they could change the null station stuff. x built the station y occupies. y ownes the area but x can still dock. |
Chevere del'Alma
Mega Global Compucon
23
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Posted - 2014.07.26 21:38:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:Aaron was a more noteworthy fellow when it was him, all alone, refusing to budge from his beloved home, UF-KKH. He was still a tragic figure but there was something admirable about his ferocious tenacity.
If he'd recognize his own limitations and realize that he is NOT a natural leader or a good PVP'er or someone who remains calm under pressure, or a clear and incisive thinker, this 2nd iteration might have been more successful than the first.
Unfortunately, he lures people down under the false pretense that 'nobody's in charge' and that 'we'll all just be blue to each other' and then when people naturally gravitate to other people, who actually DO have leadership ability, he gets jealous and resentful and starts trying to claim a throne that isn't his (or anyone's) to take.
What happened this time is almost exactly what happened the last time. Plus +ºa change ...
This makes the most sense to me. |
Aaron
Section 32.
156
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Posted - 2014.07.26 22:35:00 -
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Chevere del'Alma wrote:AkJon Ferguson wrote:Aaron was a more noteworthy fellow when it was him, all alone, refusing to budge from his beloved home, UF-KKH. He was still a tragic figure but there was something admirable about his ferocious tenacity.
If he'd recognize his own limitations and realize that he is NOT a natural leader or a good PVP'er or someone who remains calm under pressure, or a clear and incisive thinker, this 2nd iteration might have been more successful than the first.
Unfortunately, he lures people down under the false pretense that 'nobody's in charge' and that 'we'll all just be blue to each other' and then when people naturally gravitate to other people, who actually DO have leadership ability, he gets jealous and resentful and starts trying to claim a throne that isn't his (or anyone's) to take.
What happened this time is almost exactly what happened the last time. Plus +ºa change ... This makes the most sense to me.
Lol, you dont even know how to avoid you and your fleet buddies getting caught in your own mobile bubble chev, You lost a few ships on that one. If this is what you call leadership and pvp skill count me out.
I like you chev, but you're a drama queen. it's a shame really.
N.B: I've had beer Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie |
Aaron
Section 32.
156
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Posted - 2014.07.26 22:38:00 -
[897] - Quote
x Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
484
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:08:00 -
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Well I have spent 5 years playing Eve, when I joined Eve I realised from the off that the game was a harsh environment, I had spoken to a few people who had played it, so I joined with my eyes wide open, my attitude was from the start to play to be difficult to kill and that was the key focus of my game play. I also wanted to play as a good guy, only kill people that I had a reason to kill, so not for me ganking mining ships or industrial's, my criticism of that only rests with CCP in terms of their inability to see for many years that it was too easy to kill mining ships, the amount of people they lost due to that is staggering, its decisions like that which will come back to haunt CCP. It was amazing to join an organisation in Star Citizen and find that 50% of the people there had played Eve and that 80% of them had left due to the ganking of their mining ship. CCP you should have set the mining ships as you evantually did two years before you did...
In affect Eve is too difficult to play, the universe is too small, there is no way top get away from being camped or hounded, there are large numbers of very old players who have so much ISK that they can create new accounts on the fly, infiltrate, etc., they account share to get advantage in terms of cloaky camping campaigns, for example the last one that I saw it was evident that a couple of the toons logged off and then back on as the owner came on to take them over. The issue of account linking was in my view a major one, it made infiltration and cleanout operations so easy it was laughable and that is why so many people just don't bother, part of the same issue is there in terms of people awox'ing as newbies with RR support, it means that new players are not trusted. Its not the players doing this so much as the tools not being there or the structure not helping, and in any case in Eve you cannot play with one account you have to have several accounts to compete.
One of the things I hate more than anything else is sitting there in a cyno ship for 10 minutes with a big sign on my head saying come kill me. On the thread for ideas for depot type modules, I suggested that CCP create one that would be the cyno which would operate as long as you were within 3km off it, the cyno would last until you moved away or ten minutes, then you could come back in and scoop it. This would also make another part of the gameplay more difficult the out of control hotdrop, as you would need to drop it, anchor it put it on line then light the cyno, now with so many old players its now BLOP's BLOP's and more BLOP's, its too easy and it makes doing anything too difficult. The last 4 months of my time in Eve was spent logging into multiple cloaky campers and reverse camping them by sitting in station so they wasted electricty and their accounts on me. The art of playing Eve without playing Eve, I know that I started playing Eve to be difficult to kill but this is quite frankly ridiculous.
There are a number of people on the forums who are the most obnoxious trolls that I have seen anywhere, one of my fellow players Infinity Ziona left the game because of the failure of CCP to control these people in anyway shape or form, they will jump into any thread created by people who want to talk about immersion or things to improve the PvE side of things and troll it to destruction, as a result hardly anyone from the more PvE orientated side bothers, so CCP has their forums screened by these people and the views of people who look for something more than Erotica1 type gaming feel that its HTFU and thats it, so they leave.
I have had some great times in Eve, had some fun, but I am not playing this game to be a patsy for the very old players, with the structure of Eve and some of the issues I laid out here it is too easy for them, and while a community can be a major part of any game, it can also destroy the game. I wish CCP well, unlike other people I do not want you to fail and die, but sadly I cannot support this game any more, its just not fun any more for me and there are new games that are about to arrive that look like they meet my needs. To those players that I have had fun with I wish you well.
PS No you cannot have my stuff, I will keep an eye on Eve and you never know perhaps CCP can turn it around, if so then I might be back, but at this point its no longer a game that I can have fun playing. Ella's Snack bar |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
404
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:14:00 -
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If you think that the vaporware that is SC is somehow better than EVE and If you think the loss of Infinity Ziona from the game was a tragedy, then you are objectively wrong.
(P.S. thank you for revealing SC is funded by ganked and scammed miners. The irony is ongoing) |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
484
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Posted - 2014.07.28 10:18:00 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:If you think that the vaporware that is SC is somehow better than EVE and If you think the loss of Infinity Ziona from the game was a tragedy, then you are objectively wrong.
(P.S. thank you for revealing SC is funded by ganked and scammed miners. The irony is ongoing)
Your reading comprehension is pretty poor, I said that 50% of the people in the organisation I joined had played Eve and 80% of them had left due to being ganked, that is a sample, read into it whatever you want to, but if that is your reading I am laughing at you. Ella's Snack bar |
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