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Cane Inferno
INF3RN0.
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:38:00 -
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A question to all... Which alliance will be good to join for small skirmish pvp? No blob or sov warfare stuff?
Toodles, Cane Inferno |
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
6
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:55:00 -
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I would not join the Goons, they only fly rifters so they lose alot of ships.
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Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
259
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:00:00 -
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IRC. |
Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
222
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:26:00 -
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Seconded. We need more targets.
You are going to have a hard time finding anything you can take on, though, since you are only about 3 weeks old... or you are using a forum alt, which is pretty lame to do on CAOD. |
Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:50:00 -
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Join TEST. We are the best. Contact me in game, I can help get you in and moved out to our rich space |
Khadmos
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Fatal Ascension
9
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Posted - 2011.11.04 17:40:00 -
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No blob or sov warfare?
Far as I know IRC is the only alliance in worthless space that nobody else wants. |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Important Internet Spaceship League
12
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Posted - 2011.11.04 19:52:00 -
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Honestly, you should try to get into Eve Uni if that is your main character. |
Mohr Cowbell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
137
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Posted - 2011.11.04 22:35:00 -
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dot |
warsong nerds
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:09:00 -
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every alliance who has a DOT behind there alliance name , are good to join Proud Member Of Homeland Defence of GoonSwarm
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
560
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:23:00 -
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Cane Inferno wrote:A question to all... Which alliance will be good to join for small skirmish pvp? No blob or sov warfare stuff?
Toodles, Cane Inferno
NCdot, Ev0ke, PL and Raiden. are very newbie-friendly alliances. Don't bother with Goonswarm, TEST, FA, BDEAL or any of those jerks, they are elitist jerks with absurdly high skillpoint requirements that scrutinize your application to death. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
560
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:23:00 -
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elite rifter PvP |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
271
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:56:00 -
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Andski wrote:elite rifter PvP Frig5 Small Auto Spec 5 Gunnery Support Skills 5 required no timewasters please |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
560
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Posted - 2011.11.05 00:14:00 -
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Infinimo wrote:Andski wrote:elite rifter PvP Frig5 Small Auto Spec 5 Gunnery Support Skills 5 required no timewasters please
also, if you don't have solid nav, engineering and mechanic, get out |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
271
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Posted - 2011.11.05 00:40:00 -
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Andski wrote:Infinimo wrote:Andski wrote:elite rifter PvP Frig5 Small Auto Spec 5 Gunnery Support Skills 5 required no timewasters please also, if you don't have solid nav, engineering and mechanic, get out that goes without saying |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
674
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Posted - 2011.11.05 02:10:00 -
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If you enjoy flying dual tanked ravens then IRC is the alliance for you.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ddolik
Bohemian Veterans Fatal Ascension
2
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Posted - 2011.11.05 10:13:00 -
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can i sell some rolls here, please? Haters gonna hate, and bakers gonna bake! |
the SNEEP
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.11.05 22:37:00 -
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CVA |
Mohr Cowbell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
138
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Posted - 2011.11.06 02:17:00 -
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Where is my cat
Edit: This is a serious question |
Justin Bieber
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 03:09:00 -
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Join us, fellow BEEliebers! |
Daco Cutter
Invictus Australis Northern Coalition.
15
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:39:00 -
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Khadmos wrote:No blob or sov warfare?
Far as I know IRC is the only alliance in worthless space that nobody else wants.
Only problem is if they don't have 5:1 numbers they won't engage, so they're blobbers. |
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Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
66
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:57:00 -
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None of them. It's a waste of time unless you enjoy fattening the wallets of corrupt alliance leaders. Or are a corrupt alliance leader/director. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Dersk
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 15:16:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:None of them. It's a waste of time unless you enjoy fattening the wallets of corrupt alliance leaders. Or are a corrupt alliance leader/director.
WE ARE THE 99%!
OCCUPY JITA NOW!
STICK IT TO THE MAN! |
Jacada Ansari
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.06 15:53:00 -
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Goonswarm offers many benefits to new members. Just hit me up with an eve mail in game and I'll sort everything out for you. |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
172
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Posted - 2011.11.06 18:01:00 -
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You have numbers and a dot in your current corp surely you have already reached the pinnacle of elite PvP |
BBJ Shepard
158
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Posted - 2011.11.06 20:16:00 -
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gooonswarm |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar White Noise.
13
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Posted - 2011.11.07 01:13:00 -
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My refrigerated dairy product brings all the males to my spacial garden area. I can assure you my product is superior to yours. I must impress upon you this fact. I could educate you on its manufacture however that would incur a hefty service fee. |
Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
66
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Posted - 2011.11.07 02:29:00 -
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Jacada Ansari wrote:Goonswarm offers many benefits to new members. Just hit me up with an eve mail in game and I'll sort everything out for you.
Don't forget the 500M isk security deposit.
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Ventro69
Manson Family Corcoran State
45
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Posted - 2011.11.07 13:34:00 -
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Try White Noise. Move your ships and stuff to Venal. They'll be relocating there soon.
Thank you Mario! But our princess is in another castle!
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Kan'loch Lacoud
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
6
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:00:00 -
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I hear Morsus Mihi are a good place to start this time of year. |
Ranis Garr
New Eden Trade Union Genesis Invictus
0
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:42:00 -
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I would avoid joining any alliance that is a major power bloc. Goons, Test, WN, RaidenDOT, Cascade Immanent , etc.
They are large cannon-fodder junkies. Pretty much if you can type in their name on evenews24 and get more than 1 or 2 hits, I would move along. Odds are you're gonna get 5AM CTA's and douche bag dictator Alliance and Corp CEO's. |
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Zagam
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
225
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Posted - 2011.11.07 15:53:00 -
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Ranis Garr wrote:I would avoid joining any alliance that is a major power bloc. Goons, Test, WN, RaidenDOT, Cascade Immanent , etc.
They are large cannon-fodder junkies. Pretty much if you can type in their name on evenews24 and get more than 1 or 2 hits, I would move along. Odds are you're gonna get 5AM CTA's and douche bag dictator Alliance and Corp CEO's. You obviously have never been in a major alliance, have you?
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Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2011.11.08 01:08:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Ranis Garr wrote:I would avoid joining any alliance that is a major power bloc. Goons, Test, WN, RaidenDOT, Cascade Immanent , etc.
They are large cannon-fodder junkies. Pretty much if you can type in their name on evenews24 and get more than 1 or 2 hits, I would move along. Odds are you're gonna get 5AM CTA's and douche bag dictator Alliance and Corp CEO's. You obviously have never been in a major alliance, have you?
But he's been in his corp for a whole year! He MUST know something about being in a big alliance! Honestly, how can you not trust that face? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2763
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Posted - 2011.11.08 06:38:00 -
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I have not posted in weeks, much less logged in, and amazingly I am still in my corporation. Oh dear, think of all the CTAs I must have missed. What the hell is a CTA? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
591
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Posted - 2011.11.08 08:46:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:I have not posted in weeks
And you admit this on a public forum???
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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
238
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Posted - 2011.11.08 09:19:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote: What the hell is a CTA? My CTA got eaten by mean old TESTs DGO!!!!!
Gonna have to call amanil control to have them put the bastard down o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2011.11.08 09:48:00 -
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i did some google research. And top 2 candidates for CTA are : Chicago Transport Authority and California Teachers Association.
Not sure what these organizations have to do with eve. Need to investigate this deeper and uncover the "Mystery of CTA" For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
29
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Posted - 2011.11.08 12:46:00 -
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Andski wrote:Cane Inferno wrote:A question to all... Which alliance will be good to join for small skirmish pvp? No blob or sov warfare stuff?
Toodles, Cane Inferno NCdot, Ev0ke, PL and Raiden. are very newbie-friendly alliances. Don't bother with Goonswarm, TEST, FA, BDEAL or any of those jerks, they are elitist jerks with absurdly high skillpoint requirements that scrutinize your application to death.
I see what you did there! |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
240
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Posted - 2011.11.08 13:08:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:I have not posted in weeks, much less logged in, and amazingly I am still in my corporation. Oh dear, think of all the CTAs I must have missed. What the hell is a CTA? Ok, this is actually funny as hell... I linked this thread to a corpmate to read, and he actually DID have to come ask what a CTA was
WTF, nullsec, I thought we were supposed to have to give up all semblance of a real life when we came out here because its worse than a job, with alarm clock ops and CTAs every day! o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:10:00 -
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Khadmos wrote:No blob or sov warfare?
Far as I know IRC is the only alliance in worthless space that nobody else wants.
CVA. And technically us. No one wants cloud ring; trust me here. |
Zephyru5
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:29:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:i did some google research. And top 2 candidates for CTA are : Chicago Transport Authority and California Teachers Association. Not sure what these organizations have to do with eve. Need to investigate this deeper and uncover the "Mystery of CTA"
Being a resident of Chicago, every time CTA is mentioned I think of Chicago Transit Authority. The result is the same though, it makes me want to destroy something.
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zama118
FACTS on EVE RED.OverLord
4
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Posted - 2011.11.10 01:20:00 -
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just go provi and join one of the small allainces there not CVA nessarly just an alliance that lives in the area if your smart you can get a lot of PvP small gang stuff in and around provi
i use used to and still do :) |
Bernadictus
S.A.S Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2011.11.10 10:39:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Seconded. We need more targets. You are going to have a hard time finding anything you can take on, though, since you are only about 3 weeks old... or you are using a forum alt, which is pretty lame to do on CAOD. Also, unless you are into pirating, you will have a hard time finding solid roams without joining an alliance that does sov/blobs.
You need to undock from 1DH first before you can do that. Too bad we left. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.11.10 23:07:00 -
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Bernadictus wrote:Zagam wrote:Seconded. We need more targets. You are going to have a hard time finding anything you can take on, though, since you are only about 3 weeks old... or you are using a forum alt, which is pretty lame to do on CAOD. Also, unless you are into pirating, you will have a hard time finding solid roams without joining an alliance that does sov/blobs. You need to undock from 1DH first before you can do that. Too bad we left.
"We swung by your capital system and all of your AFK people, industry guys, and dudes listing sell orders failed to bubble out of the station and fight us, the three people that were actually awake and there in combat ships deigned to undock against our gang of 20.... pussies" |
FILFIUS
Domination. Legion of The Damned.
3
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Posted - 2011.11.12 11:14:00 -
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Syndicate is where you will find small/medium scale fighting
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Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2011.11.13 06:16:00 -
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FILFIUS wrote:Syndicate is where you will find small/medium scale fighting
and get your small gang hotdropped by R&K carriers.
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Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2011.11.15 17:30:00 -
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Dervinus wrote:Join TEST. We are the best. Contact me in game, I can help get you in and moved out to our rich space
I think you are right. We could get him in just make sure you explain rules about deposit because i don't want to pay for his mistakes.
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2011.11.15 17:42:00 -
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Zagam wrote:Ranis Garr wrote:I would avoid joining any alliance that is a major power bloc. Goons, Test, WN, RaidenDOT, Cascade Immanent , etc.
They are large cannon-fodder junkies. Pretty much if you can type in their name on evenews24 and get more than 1 or 2 hits, I would move along. Odds are you're gonna get 5AM CTA's and douche bag dictator Alliance and Corp CEO's. You obviously have never been in a major alliance, have you?
I thought the same thing when I read that. |
Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:19:00 -
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zama118 wrote:just go provi and join one of the small allainces there not CVA nessarly just an alliance that lives in the area if your smart you can get a lot of PvP small gang stuff in and around provi
i use used to and still do :) This is to confirm the quoted post, as member of Yulai (NRDS Coalition in Provi) I enjoy daily fleet ops having small to medium gangs giving me an average of 7 kills a day
Main Reds you will face daily: White Noise, Morsus Mehi, Red Alliance and red overlord, Phobia, Kadeshi, Hydra reloaded, and few other small gangs roaming around providence |
zama118
FACTS on EVE RED.OverLord
5
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Posted - 2011.11.16 11:34:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote: Main Reds you will face daily: red overlord
so nice of you to notice us :D
fact of the matter is all the alliances that roam povi, roam it for the good fights and to teach players about the hashness of 0.0 i rember my old provi days when i died so offten, then you learn how to keep safe and fight back... and the rest well the rest is history.
no one IHO sould try to sov war in provi as its worthless space to most but very rich for players who just want to go and get started in 0.0 or just looking to chill out with no strings attached |
Sgt Malox
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
0
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:43:00 -
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Ranis Garr wrote:I would avoid joining any alliance that is a major power bloc. Goons, Test, WN, RaidenDOT, Cascade Immanent , etc.
They are large cannon-fodder junkies. Pretty much if you can type in their name on evenews24 and get more than 1 or 2 hits, I would move along. Odds are you're gonna get 5AM CTA's and douche bag dictator Alliance and Corp CEO's.
no wonder my life is terrible, now i can stop paying that shrink finally |
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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo THE UNTHINKABLES
6
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Posted - 2011.11.17 03:06:00 -
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Most of the major nullsec alliances have membership who do small/med gang pvp along with their fleet warfare. We are currently in Great Wildlands, and although it can be quiet quite a bit, we get a bit of the small gang action. I would suggest w-space if you want controlled smaller gang warfare. |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.11.17 10:09:00 -
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Choose the NRDS path and join the Yulai Federation! ^^ We fly in Providence and do daily small - medium defence fleets against pirates, standing fleets up every day, many hours.
Executor corp Yulai Guard always looking for new pilots with potential!
http://yulaifederation.net/forum/index.php?board=3.0
Keep in mind though, we do the total NRDS thing, with honour and decency on top. No griefing, pirating, and we even treat our enemies with respect (up to the level that they deserve). Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:23:00 -
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Are we red to you? Currently? This question is just idle curiosity. Also, what is your policy on obvious genuine newbies in NPC corporations carefully hauling their cynosural field generators out to 0.0 so they can test them outside the oppressive restrictions of CONCORD? They just want to see the graphics before CCP changes them.
To the OP: There are a whole range of 0.0 groups out there, ranging from the very large to the very small. Find one that lets you play EVE how you want to play. Talk to recruiters to get a feel for this. Here are some guidelines:
- If the group you're joining doesn't do a thorough background check on you, they're likely riddled with spies. If you feel like being a spy for someone, this is a plus!
- If the group you're joining has mandated 'red pen' OPs, be leery. This sort of whipping culture is toxic, and can backfire by burning members out if you ever run into nasty pressure from the outside. Instead, I'd look for organizations that lead with a carrot.
- Specifically, look for good, organized alliance programs. If you're joining a group strong enough to own space, you should be reaping some benefits of that. Fleet ship reimbursements, a well-maintained network of jump bridges and intelligence channels, and ideally some organized PvP and PvE programs are critical. Perhaps even more important than anything else is an alliance with some method of getting you ships in 0.0, via either transport programs, some form of local industry, or a very well protected pipe, at the least.
-Try to find an alliance active doing things you're interested in. Make sure they've got at least some players active in your timezone (who speak your language, literally and culturally) with similar interests. If you're into ratting, make sure you have good systems for that (look at true sec and upgrades). If you want to PvP (or even if you don't), make sure there are competent FCs that lead gangs you can fly in (this should be all gangs because t1 tackling frigates belong everywhere), preferably with an organized doctrine you'd be given incentives to train towards.
-Finally, look for an alliance with strong, certain leadership. EVE politics are silly, but also somewhat cutthroat: If your leaders are indecisive, foolish, or worse, powerless (See: difficulties with getting decisions made with council systems, democracies, or in pet alliances), you're in danger of being in an organization which will not be able to put up organized resistance to outside pressure.
Good luck on finding a decent 0.0 alliance. |
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.11.18 10:11:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:Are we red to you? Currently? This question is just idle curiosity. Also, what is your policy on obvious genuine newbies in NPC corporations carefully hauling their cynosural field generators out to 0.0 so they can test them outside the oppressive restrictions of CONCORD? They just want to see the graphics before CCP changes them.
Ofc you are red. You've been so for as long as I can remember. You being such dedicated NBSIers/pirates. :p
Well, Providence is a warzone. NRDS does not equal stupidity, but conscience. Neutrals do get shot down around here, but only if they are a threat.
cheers o/ Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Raptor217
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
17
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Posted - 2011.11.18 11:36:00 -
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I enjoy blowing up anti-pirate/NRDS players! If you would like to join me on my epic quest to take out these players join TEST alliance today!! We're emancipating providence from the tyranny of chribba and the roleplayers! |
ChaeDoc II
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2011.11.18 13:17:00 -
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I'd recommend Fatal Ascension for you to join but like every other member of the alliance you'll just end up wanting to be like me.
To be honest i'm getting tired of all the mails from fellow alliance members, which i feel obliged to respond to nicely cos i'm a real nice guy, asking "Chae, i've been watching you for a while now and i really want to be more like you. Do you hold any classes i could attend?" etc.
The answer is No! i am not a tutor, that's what i sent Jesus for and you killed him! |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2011.11.18 16:35:00 -
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Confirming that FA is a great way for pubbies to get into 0.0. |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2011.11.18 16:36:00 -
[58] - Quote
and awoxers seriously just say you're a cyno alt |
Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.18 18:25:00 -
[59] - Quote
you should join CCP Engineering Alliance http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/CCP_Engineering_Alliance |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2011.11.18 19:59:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote: Keep in mind though, we do the total NRDS thing, with honour and decency on top. No griefing, pirating, and we even treat our enemies with respect (up to the level that they deserve).
So what do you do for fun? |
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Mohamad Transporte
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.11.19 07:20:00 -
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Ogi Talvanen wrote:Codo Yagari wrote: Keep in mind though, we do the total NRDS thing, with honour and decency on top. No griefing, pirating, and we even treat our enemies with respect (up to the level that they deserve).
So what do you do for fun?
hmmm ---> that: http://kb.yulaifederation.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=23 |
Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2011.11.19 14:52:00 -
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I ask what you do for fun and you link kb?
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Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.11.21 11:31:00 -
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I dont think you understand. Let me try and make it a bit more clear:
We kill for a reason; to make New Eden a safer place. We remove and demoralize pirates and griefers. This is alot of fun, to do a days good hard work, and to help make New Eden a safer place. However, I wouldn't kill if I didnt have to. I do what I do so I can help keep my brothers and sisters safe. From you.
You kill for the joy of killing and causing grief and loss. When you dont have anything left to kill, and noone left to grief you feel bored.
So, we both kill, but our reasons for doing it differs like black and white. Your reason isn't valid, and I guess in a sense that is why you enjoy it so much. Being the naughty boys that you now are. Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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Ogi Talvanen
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
62
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Posted - 2011.11.21 12:52:00 -
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Fleet Admiral would you like to spank this naughty boy? |
Rydra Wong
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
6
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Posted - 2011.11.21 12:56:00 -
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Codo Yagari wrote:I dont think you understand. Let me try and make it a bit more clear:
We kill for a reason; to make New Eden a safer place. We remove and demoralize pirates and griefers. This is alot of fun, to do a days good hard work, and to help make New Eden a safer place. However, I wouldn't kill if I didnt have to. I do what I do so I can help keep my brothers and sisters safe. From you.
You kill for the joy of killing and causing grief and loss. When you dont have anything left to kill, and noone left to grief you feel bored.
So, we both kill, but our reasons for doing it differs like black and white. Your reason isn't valid, and I guess in a sense that is why you enjoy it so much. Being the naughty boys that you now are.
Interesting idea. so if all pirates, griefers and 'badmen' gave up piracy tomorrow, CCP changes the rules to stop it all.... Then what would you do?
The difference between a pirate or griefer and an anti-pirate, is the pirate doesn't feel the need to substantiate why they are killing something. Others have something they want, be it something shiny or the ability to explode, they set out to obtain it. Whereas the anti-pirate has no achievable goals. You cannot ever defeat pirates, because you are providing them with the exact thing they want. Something that goes boom, and a chance to obtain more things that go boom in the future. You rely on propaganda and publicity/marketing to maintain the illusion that you have a cause, and a just one. But the pirates just need the next thing to shoot.
So tell me, who's the real villians here? The ones who's are happy and content blowing stuff up, content in the knowledge that there's always another fireball around the corner? Or the ones who have to tell themselves causes and justifications, often lie to themselves, for making explosions, and to maintain a reason to fight. |
Codo Yagari
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I'd say pirates are victims of the darker parts of their instincts, actually misunderstanding their drives.
Anti-pirates on the other hand do not let themselves to be controlled and pushed around by their lower impulses, but choose their path and actions. They observe what the right course of action and behaviour is, and they chose to follow it. Regardless of emotional impulses.
You're saying go with the flow. I'm saying you have the power to make a choise and do what is right.
Comeon, are you really saying that the people that take the moral high ground are the villians? You serious?
Are you trolling? Fleet Admiral Codo Yagari Yulai Guard Commander Yulai Federation Executor http://yulaifederation.net
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