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Pakokkie
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2013.11.21 12:23:00 -
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Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:11:00 -
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i know it's not tax deductable for us as players but does ccp claim it back? i:e as a gift from them i'm sure they don't, that would just be nasty. profiting from someones misfortune.
anyway i'll give what i can as it's going to red cross not a charity that pays big money to some **** ceo and his buddies who should be giving their time at a much discounted rate or for free. |
0ld Solid Snake
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:12:00 -
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Pakokkie wrote:Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there.
The primary target audience of this is people who cannot afford to donate lots of real-life money to charity at the drop of a hat, but are spacerich enough to take some plex off the in-game market and know that they are getting at least $15 a plex to charity.
By all means, donate directly to charity if you can! That's great! Yes, buying plex directly from CCP to donate WOULD be silly, and not a completely ideal use of your money!
I can't afford to donate very much of my real life money right now, but what I can do is sell off some of my internet spaceship crap to buy plex, and donate that. And I think its nice of CCP to make that possible. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
250
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:20:00 -
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0ld Solid Snake wrote:Pakokkie wrote:Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there. The primary target audience of this is people who cannot afford to donate lots of real-life money to charity at the drop of a hat, but are spacerich enough to take some plex off the in-game market and know that they are getting at least $15 a plex to charity. By all means, donate directly to charity if you can! That's great! Yes, buying plex directly from CCP to donate WOULD be silly, and not a completely ideal use of your money! I can't afford to donate very much of my real life money right now, but what I can do is sell off some of my internet spaceship crap to buy plex, and donate that. And I think its nice of CCP to make that possible. This exactly. There are people in eve who could theoretically afford to donate a couple hundred USD in PLEX, but can barely afford to eat IRL....otherwise known as college students with too much time on their hands. This is perfect for them. thhief ghabmoef |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:29:00 -
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Pakokkie wrote:Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there.
the only way they could possibly be getting anything out of the deal is if they claim it as a charitable donation from themselves as a company, if anything its costing them some money to process the deal not to mention the markup they lose to 3rd party gtc sellers. person a (a player, any player) gives money to person b (ccp) and person b gives that money to charity. |
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CCP Falcon
4668
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:45:00 -
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A little update for you guys!
Wired released this article earlier today.
A few hours before that, we hit a value of $10,000 in PLEX. A couple of hours ago, we passed $15,000.
You guys are amazing
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Sylfamas
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:49:00 -
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fuer0n wrote:Pakokkie wrote:Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there. the only way they could possibly be getting anything out of the deal is if they claim it as a charitable donation from themselves as a company, if anything its costing them some money to process the deal not to mention the markup they lose to 3rd party gtc sellers. person a (a player, any player) gives money to person b (ccp) and person b gives that money to charity.
I initially thought that CCP is giving out the 20 dollars a Plex costs the player and then adds 15 dollars for each PLEX donated. Now I read the article again and it seems that CCP gives out nothing. The player pays 20dollars/20 euros (in europe) for 1 X PLEX and then CCP pays 15 dollars / not-15-euros for each PLEX given. They don't give something from their accounts.
As for your remark, you may be right, but I doubt it costs them 5 dollars/euros per PLEX. They may not do much money in the process but usually calls for donations sound like "Whatever you donate, we match". The idea is awsome, helping people in need is something that everyone should do, as long as they have the means. Profiting in any degree from the donations is wrong. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:52:00 -
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eve illuminati LOL made me chuckle a bit. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.11.21 17:53:00 -
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Sylfamas wrote:fuer0n wrote:Pakokkie wrote:Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there. the only way they could possibly be getting anything out of the deal is if they claim it as a charitable donation from themselves as a company, if anything its costing them some money to process the deal not to mention the markup they lose to 3rd party gtc sellers. person a (a player, any player) gives money to person b (ccp) and person b gives that money to charity. I initially thought that CCP is giving out the 20 dollars a Plex costs the player and then adds 15 dollars for each PLEX donated. Now I read the article again and it seems that CCP gives out nothing. The player pays 20dollars/20 euros (in europe) for 1 X PLEX and then CCP pays 15 dollars / not-15-euros for each PLEX given. They don't give something from their accounts. As for your remark, you may be right, but I doubt it costs them 5 dollars/euros per PLEX. They may not do much money in the process but usually calls for donations sound like "Whatever you donate, we match". The idea is awsome, helping people in need is something that everyone should do, as long as they have the means. Profiting in any degree from the donations is wrong.
i'm sure they wouldnt do that.
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fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.11.21 19:27:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:A little update for you guys! Wired released this article earlier today. A few hours before that, we hit a value of $10,000 in PLEX. A couple of hours ago, we passed $15,000. You guys are amazing all tax free:P
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
242
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Posted - 2013.11.22 01:42:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:0ld Solid Snake wrote:Pakokkie wrote:Too bad CCP is earning money over dead and poor people. No way in hell that it will cost CCP real money.
Even when I buy 30 plex with RL money CCP earns big time.
So I donate directly to people that have family there. The primary target audience of this is people who cannot afford to donate lots of real-life money to charity at the drop of a hat, but are spacerich enough to take some plex off the in-game market and know that they are getting at least $15 a plex to charity. By all means, donate directly to charity if you can! That's great! Yes, buying plex directly from CCP to donate WOULD be silly, and not a completely ideal use of your money! I can't afford to donate very much of my real life money right now, but what I can do is sell off some of my internet spaceship crap to buy plex, and donate that. And I think its nice of CCP to make that possible. This exactly. There are people in eve who could theoretically afford to donate a couple hundred USD in PLEX, but can barely afford to eat IRL....otherwise known as college students with too much time on their hands. This is perfect for them. It's not only college students. But for the rest I wholeheartedly agree.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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ButtFungus
SOONWAFFE
11
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Posted - 2013.11.22 01:59:00 -
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I do not know how the tax code is Iceland is structured, but if it parallels the USA tax code, then CCP will certainly get a tax deduction for the monetary donation of PLEX to the cause. If you look deep into CCP's finances, you will most likely find that CCP regularly donates to charitable causes because over 75% of businesses do. The PLEX for GOOD program will increase their donation, but they will NOT profit from it. Why? Because they aren't taxed at 100% of their profits. If they are taxed at, say, 30% of their profits then for every $1000 they donate to charity, they save $300 in taxes. Hmmm... Give $1000 get $300 back - sounds like a trade hub scam, right? CCP isn't giving YOUR money to charity. YOU gave CCP your money in exchange for a PLEX. Therefore, the money is now CCP's money and if they donate it to charity then they get the tax break. It's important to remember that charitable contributions only lower your taxes. Whatever the tax rate is, subtract it from 100% and that's the percentage of the contribution that the business simply loses. In this example, 30% tax means that 70% of the money CCP donates to the red cross (that would be $14,000 of a $20,000 donation) comes out of their pockets with NOTHING IN RETURN! If CCP makes a donation of $20,000 and their tax rate is an astronomical 75%, then CCP still loses $4000 by running this event. And that's not a deductible business loss, it's simply the part of the contribution that they don't get credited back to them as lower taxes. The only thing CCP gets out of this drive is media exposure. CCP is a business that depends on Paying Customers (that's us, the players) in order to survive. Will CCP get new players because of this drive? Certainly. But if they took the money they are going to lose by donating to the red cross and spent that amount on a targeted media blitz, they would get far more players than the feel-goods who will enter New Eden because of this event.
TL;DR - CCP is going to lose RL money because of this, and that money is going to help people whose lives have been destroyed by a hurricane. That makes CCP the Good Guys. It's a virtual prison |
Layla Gala
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.22 11:11:00 -
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ButtFungus wrote:I do not know how the tax code is Iceland is structured, but if it parallels the USA tax code, then CCP will certainly get a tax deduction for the monetary donation of PLEX to the cause. If you look deep into CCP's finances, you will most likely find that CCP regularly donates to charitable causes because over 75% of businesses do. The PLEX for GOOD program will increase their donation, but they will NOT profit from it. Why? Because they aren't taxed at 100% of their profits. If they are taxed at, say, 30% of their profits then for every $1000 they donate to charity, they save $300 in taxes. Hmmm... Give $1000 get $300 back - sounds like a trade hub scam, right? CCP isn't giving YOUR money to charity. YOU gave CCP your money in exchange for a PLEX. Therefore, the money is now CCP's money and if they donate it to charity then they get the tax break. It's important to remember that charitable contributions only lower your taxes. Whatever the tax rate is, subtract it from 100% and that's the percentage of the contribution that the business simply loses. In this example, 30% tax means that 70% of the money CCP donates to the red cross (that would be $14,000 of a $20,000 donation) comes out of their pockets with NOTHING IN RETURN! If CCP makes a donation of $20,000 and their tax rate is an astronomical 75%, then CCP still loses $4000 by running this event. And that's not a deductible business loss, it's simply the part of the contribution that they don't get credited back to them as lower taxes. The only thing CCP gets out of this drive is media exposure. CCP is a business that depends on Paying Customers (that's us, the players) in order to survive. Will CCP get new players because of this drive? Certainly. But if they took the money they are going to lose by donating to the red cross and spent that amount on a targeted media blitz, they would get far more players than the feel-goods who will enter New Eden because of this event.
TL;DR - CCP is going to lose RL money because of this, and that money is going to help people whose lives have been destroyed by a hurricane. That makes CCP the Good Guys.
i dont really care about profit, not when its about charity.
But ccp asks europeans trough their website 20 euro for a plex, thats about 27 dollar. And Americans are charged 15 dollar trough their website.
Even if u fund this only with ingame plexes and ingame money, at some point real life money gets involved because plex can only be created outside the game.
So it raises a question for me why only 15$ is being send /plex. As an european it would be 15$ for the charity and 12$ for ccp, nevertheless it should not stop people from participating if they want too.
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Sgt Ocker
State War Academy Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2013.11.22 13:14:00 -
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Layla Gala wrote:ButtFungus wrote:I do not know how the tax code is Iceland is structured, but if it parallels the USA tax code, then CCP will certainly get a tax deduction for the monetary donation of PLEX to the cause. If you look deep into CCP's finances, you will most likely find that CCP regularly donates to charitable causes because over 75% of businesses do. The PLEX for GOOD program will increase their donation, but they will NOT profit from it. Why? Because they aren't taxed at 100% of their profits. If they are taxed at, say, 30% of their profits then for every $1000 they donate to charity, they save $300 in taxes. Hmmm... Give $1000 get $300 back - sounds like a trade hub scam, right? CCP isn't giving YOUR money to charity. YOU gave CCP your money in exchange for a PLEX. Therefore, the money is now CCP's money and if they donate it to charity then they get the tax break. It's important to remember that charitable contributions only lower your taxes. Whatever the tax rate is, subtract it from 100% and that's the percentage of the contribution that the business simply loses. In this example, 30% tax means that 70% of the money CCP donates to the red cross (that would be $14,000 of a $20,000 donation) comes out of their pockets with NOTHING IN RETURN! If CCP makes a donation of $20,000 and their tax rate is an astronomical 75%, then CCP still loses $4000 by running this event. And that's not a deductible business loss, it's simply the part of the contribution that they don't get credited back to them as lower taxes. The only thing CCP gets out of this drive is media exposure. CCP is a business that depends on Paying Customers (that's us, the players) in order to survive. Will CCP get new players because of this drive? Certainly. But if they took the money they are going to lose by donating to the red cross and spent that amount on a targeted media blitz, they would get far more players than the feel-goods who will enter New Eden because of this event.
TL;DR - CCP is going to lose RL money because of this, and that money is going to help people whose lives have been destroyed by a hurricane. That makes CCP the Good Guys. i dont really care about profit, not when its about charity. But ccp asks europeans trough their website 20 euro for a plex, thats about 27 dollar. And Americans are charged 15 dollar trough their website. Even if u fund this only with ingame plexes and ingame money, at some point real life money gets involved because plex can only be created outside the game. So it raises a question for me why only 15$ is being send /plex. As an european it would be 15$ for the charity and 12$ for ccp, nevertheless it should not stop people from participating if they want too. I think you sort of missed the point.. The plex being donated for the red cross are already in game, they have been paid for at some time previously by us, the players.
IE; I buy 4 plex from CCP @ $17 each, I then sell those plex to an isk rich player in game. He then donates those plex to the plex drive, ccp then donate $15 for every plex donated to the red cross.
That $15 is coming out of CCP's pocket, not yours or mine.
Nobody is suggesting you buy plex from CCP to donate, the idea is you donate plex you have purchased in game with isk.
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NorthCrossroad
EVE University Ivy League
87
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Posted - 2013.11.22 21:25:00 -
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Noone requires you to buy PLEX for RL cash. Donate directly if you so want - expenses will be lower for sure. But in my case I am donating PLEX that I bought in-game. And in this case it's an awesome way to give 15$ just by playing.
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Sir Prometeus
Shimai of New Eden
23
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Posted - 2013.11.23 01:46:00 -
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Yesterday I've won a Tempest fleet in Somer Blink. So I exchanged it for a PLEX to help with the problems caused by a Typhoon. Now I realize the magnitude of the irony |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
333
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Posted - 2013.11.23 07:14:00 -
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I am generating funds to donate to this PLEX for Good program by running the following two initiatives. Please help if you can.
T2 BPO Auction
Multiple Item Sale Any colour you like. |
Caxton Verticorda
Empyrean Warriors Insidious Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.11.24 02:25:00 -
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I hope I can scrape together enough ISK for a PLEX before the 7th. Having an sustainable economy for regular PLEX has never been my strong side. |
Salex Zee
Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple
0
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Posted - 2013.11.24 04:17:00 -
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Is it required to contract PLEX in Jita or does it not matter where I do it from? |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
343
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Posted - 2013.11.24 06:42:00 -
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Salex Zee wrote:Is it required to contract PLEX in Jita or does it not matter where I do it from? You can set up the contract anywhere in the Eve universe.
Any colour you like. |
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Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
345
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Posted - 2013.11.24 06:46:00 -
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Caxton Verticorda wrote:I hope I can scrape together enough ISK for a PLEX before the 7th. Having an sustainable economy for regular PLEX has never been my strong side. In case you cannot get enough for a PLEX and still want to donate, there are at least 3 options:
1. Eve Radio accepts smaller amounts 2. VAERT fund accepts smaller amounts 3. My initiative, Multiple Items Sale, lets you donate smaller amounts while getting your hands on some good stuff.
Any colour you like. |
JetCord
People of Random Nature
28
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Posted - 2013.11.24 11:01:00 -
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as someone who live in the neighboring country near to Philippine , thank CCP |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:56:00 -
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Two things..
Could we get a running update on how much has been donated so far ? And maybe again every other day or so ?
Second, I'd love to see a larger version of this http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65464/1/sistersofeve.jpg that was posted in the devblog. Would make a great wallpaper :) |
Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
11
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Posted - 2013.11.26 09:29:00 -
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Beware: somebody made a fake "PLEX for GOOD" character. |
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CCP Falcon
4709
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:26:00 -
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This has been dealt with.
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CCP Falcon
4709
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Posted - 2013.11.26 13:30:00 -
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An update!
We now stand at 2864 PLEX donated to PLEX for GOOD this time around, which means we've broken our record for PLEX donated in previous drives.
Total value now stands at almost $43,000 US CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Manager -á || -á EVE Illuminati
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4742
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:33:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:An update! We now stand at 2864 PLEX donated to PLEX for GOOD this time around, which means we've broken our record for PLEX donated in previous drives. Total value now stands at almost $43,000 US
Hello,
is there any way to get a CCP representative to help me check that my VAERT transactions used to convert ISK into PLEX are 100% correct? This time I borrowed VAERT my own ISK in advance to let VAERT take advantage of some conveniently priced PLEXes and I'd like to be sure I did not miss anything in the resulting ISK transactions. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
612
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Posted - 2013.11.26 16:42:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:An update! We now stand at 2864 PLEX donated to PLEX for GOOD this time around, which means we've broken our record for PLEX donated in previous drives. Total value now stands at almost $43,000 US
Wow |
Innominate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:02:00 -
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For every 720 million isk that I am sent in game, I will donate one plex to this. |
RAW23
552
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:07:00 -
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Any chance someone from CCP can lay out the policy on extorting PLEX for Good donations as ransoms either from individual pilots or wardeccing corps/alliances?
There is some discussion going on here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3931726#post3931726
If memory serves some pirates have already reported being asked not to demand a donation as a ransom and rather to take isk as normal and make the donation themselves. If this is the policy could you make it public please as debates such as the one in the linked thread have the potential to turn people off the PFG idea, which would be a great shame. There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
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