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Mercur Fighter
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.23 17:35:00 -
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I've been getting unstable frame rates and micro stutters ever since Rubicon launched.
My FPS would fluctuate wildly between around 45 - 80 in Jita. And between around 57 - 67 in an un-populated system.
Even though the FPS chart says I have enough FPS to play smoothly, I am experiencing A LOT of micro stutters.
Is anybody else having this issue?
My system specs:
MSI GT70 gaming laptop Core i7-4700MQ 12 GB RAM Geforce GTX 770M 1 TB HDD 7200 RPM Windows 7
Thanks. |
Tesker Flant
Dirty jobs Inc.
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Posted - 2013.11.23 18:06:00 -
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Same issue with myself and several people I play with. All various levels of hardware but the same post-patch framerate drop issues. Really glad I resubbed for this. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
256
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:10:00 -
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try switching from "fullscreen" to "fixed window" |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.23 19:18:00 -
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We will be investigating this, stuttering frame rates are not acceptable. |
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Seranova Farreach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:58:00 -
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im on a lower end system, 560ti 1gb and 4gig ram and i never used to get this problem till rubicon. |
Oxide Ammar
Equilibrium Tech Labs
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Posted - 2013.11.24 08:41:00 -
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I get unstable fps and stutters as soon as I open 2nd account or more, the issue disappear if I'm on single account opened. |
Erdem Termonen
RC Engineering Company
0
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Posted - 2013.11.24 13:03:00 -
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I have the same problem. Before Rubicon I was getting stable 60FPS, but now it feels very stuttery. I also get black boxes as ship pictures.
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling again, but again same problem. Deleting my cache and characters also didn't solve the issue. Surprisingly setting everything to low actually lowers my framerate. |
Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
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Posted - 2013.11.24 14:18:00 -
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I have had no issue (Ati 7970) but know at least 3 people with this issue all of whom appear to be using Nvidia cards. I originally suspected a driver issue with dx11 and Nvidia drivers in rubicon however one of them also gets the issue with a dx9 card.
I was told by at least two of them that the immediate interval was a bit more bearable (over an interval of one), but still stuttered. |
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
328
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Posted - 2013.11.24 16:15:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:We will be investigating this, stuttering frame rates are not acceptable.
Ever since the Rub patch, I've been having FPS issues as well.
The stange part is that it happens when I'm docked and have the F10 map up so that my screen is all black for market and contracts window usage.
It has dipped to 4 fps!!! To fix it I turn the map off to hangar view and get a solid 60 max fps....
Dafug?!
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2296
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:01:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:We will be investigating this, stuttering frame rates are not acceptable. ..Unless its on the Mac client. There stutters, freezes and all sort of other bugs are acceptable. Because CCP is unwilling to put in the effort to press Transgaming to get their act together and do their job. And because CCP is unwilling to do their job and code around Transgaming's shortcomings.
For me the biggest stutter is stargate jumps. The tunnel animation stutters quite badly. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
328
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:49:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:We will be investigating this, stuttering frame rates are not acceptable. ..Unless its on the Mac client. There stutters, freezes and all sort of other bugs are acceptable. Because CCP is unwilling to put in the effort to press Transgaming to get their act together and do their job. And because CCP is unwilling to do their job and code around Transgaming's shortcomings. For me the biggest stutter is stargate jumps. The tunnel animation stutters quite badly.
Ditch your hipster gear and get a proper gaming rig that is way more powerful at a fraction of the cost.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
297
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:51:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:We will be investigating this, stuttering frame rates are not acceptable. ..Unless its on the Mac client. There stutters, freezes and all sort of other bugs are acceptable. Because CCP is unwilling to put in the effort to press Transgaming to get their act together and do their job. And because CCP is unwilling to do their job and code around Transgaming's shortcomings. For me the biggest stutter is stargate jumps. The tunnel animation stutters quite badly. Point taken. There's only so much I can do but I will make sure your post gets noticed.
I do hope that our optimization efforts will improve things on the Mac, nonetheless. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2296
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:04:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:We will be investigating this, stuttering frame rates are not acceptable. ..Unless its on the Mac client. There stutters, freezes and all sort of other bugs are acceptable. Because CCP is unwilling to put in the effort to press Transgaming to get their act together and do their job. And because CCP is unwilling to do their job and code around Transgaming's shortcomings. For me the biggest stutter is stargate jumps. The tunnel animation stutters quite badly. Ditch your hipster gear and get a proper gaming rig that is way more powerful at a fraction of the cost. That would be hard. My MPB was free. And I don't have to be hip, I have it to get my job done. (And its so nice of work to let me play eve on my work computer.) http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2013.11.24 23:10:00 -
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It seems switching to interval immediate removes stuttering (or noticable stuttering), but that also puts more work on my GPU, and isn't really needed. Please fix! |
Tosho Shirosagi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.25 00:07:00 -
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I have the same problem. Switching the intervall to immediate solves the stuttering but MSI afterburner shows me that my GPU utilization is at 100%. Changing post processing to none seems to help too. Finally i have fps problems if i'm looking in the suns. Is this still a problem? Cause i read a thread from 2012 where this was mentioned. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
256
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Posted - 2013.11.25 11:22:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:try switching from "fullscreen" to "fixed window"
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Azmodan EG
The Second Quarter
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Posted - 2013.11.25 11:48:00 -
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Well, my issue is that I can't even switch to interval immediate. After restart it says "interval one" again. The fresh Win7 64bit install, nVidia drivers are up to date. DX11 client. Please help. |
Tosho Shirosagi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:22:00 -
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@seth thanks! "fixed window" seems to work. but sometimes i have a very short drop to 35 fps. |
Robert Warner
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2013.11.25 22:49:00 -
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Same issue here. It seems to be exacerbated when I have multiple clients open.
Frame rates are erratic even when sitting in station doing nothing on all accounts.
My setup is Core I7 960, 12Gb RAM, ATI Radeon 5970. I would usually experience frame rates of around 180 FPS but I keep v-sync switched on to keep it down. Pre-Rubicon it would not drop below its set 60-FPS, now it drops to 40 every second or so and frequently stutters down to 30 and even to 10.
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
452
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Posted - 2013.11.26 11:11:00 -
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Same, sudden drops in framerate and audio stutters where there would have been no issue before rubicon. BUDDY TRIALS - 21days + ISK bonus + Starting Assistance : https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=77facad8-d941-45ad-95bc-c1ec90919b6b&action=buddy Feel free to contact me with questions :) |
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macout
Quitters Inc..
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Posted - 2013.12.01 15:54:00 -
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so? any updates from devs? this stuttering is mad, also client crashes which never happend before patch. thanks for nice patch!.... |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.01 17:26:00 -
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macout wrote:so? any updates from devs? this stuttering is mad, also client crashes which never happend before patch. thanks for nice patch!.... We are still actively working on stability and performance issues in the DX11 version in particular. In the meantime, try switching back to the DX9 version in the launcher settings.
Some players have also reported better performance with the fixed window setting, rather than fullscreen. |
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macout
Quitters Inc..
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:01:00 -
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ok, thanks for a headup. dx9 version works fine. stuttering gone. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.01 22:06:00 -
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macout wrote:ok, thanks for a headup. dx9 version works fine. stuttering gone. OK, that's good to know. The DX11 version does not have any features over the DX9 at this time - in general it uses 5-15% less memory and in most cases runs slightly faster, but we still troublesome cases that we're working on. Future updates will start adding features we can only do in DX11 but we wanted to be sure we had a stable engine first.
What are your machine specs (Windows version, graphics card, driver version)? |
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macout
Quitters Inc..
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Posted - 2013.12.01 23:49:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:macout wrote:ok, thanks for a headup. dx9 version works fine. stuttering gone. OK, that's good to know. The DX11 version does not have any features over the DX9 at this time - in general it uses 5-15% less memory and in most cases runs slightly faster, but we still troublesome cases that we're working on. Future updates will start adding features we can only do in DX11 but we wanted to be sure we had a stable engine first. What are your machine specs (Windows version, graphics card, driver version)?
System Information
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate N 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532)
System Model: DX58SO2_ BIOS: Default System BIOS Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.2GHz Memory: 16384MB RAM Available OS Memory: 16374MB RAM Page File: 3216MB used, 15155MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: None
Display Devices
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce GTX 680 DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1180&SUBSYS_26833842&REV_A1 Display Memory: 4042 MB Dedicated Memory: 1994 MB Shared Memory: 2047 MB Current Mode: 2560 x 1440 (32 bit) (59Hz) Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor Monitor Model: DELL U2711 Monitor Id: DELA055 Native Mode: 2560 x 1440(p) (59.951Hz) Output Type: DVI Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.1407 (English) (314.07) Driver Version: 9.18.13.1407 DDI Version: 11 Driver Model: WDDM 1.1 Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 2/10/2013 07:25:27, 17987192 bytes
Sound Devices
Description: Speakers (2- ASUS Xonar D2 Audio Device) Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_8788&SUBSYS_82691043&REV_00 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: cmudaxp.sys Driver Version: 5.12.0001.0008 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Also, I will run eve with /minidump line, and if I get another crash I'll post or send logs. |
Kamiko Senra
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.02 16:49:00 -
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I also have this stuttering issue post patch. If only running one client with minimum graphics settings my FPS will max at above 600, then drop below 30 every few seconds for less than a second, then resume the previous FPS level. While multiboxing this stuttering happens on all clients. It happens on either graphics card, tested with multiple graphics card drivers. This only started happening post Rubicon.
DxDiag paste if that helps at all: DxDiag
Thanks for the work on solving this issue. |
Kamiko Senra
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.02 17:57:00 -
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I can reliably reproduce that this happens with a fps drop to 0 for a split second every time a market call is made or order is updated. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
309
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:28:00 -
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Kamiko Senra wrote:I can reliably reproduce that this happens with a fps drop to 0 for a split second every time a market call is made or order is updated. Thanks, this is a good lead, we'll investigate. |
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Kip Troger
Exiled Kings
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Posted - 2013.12.02 20:40:00 -
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I am not sure if this is the same as the OP, but post Rubicon I am getting tons of pauses, where my client just stops and then if i click anywhere within the client, it all goes grey with the windows loading circle...usually for like 10 seconds and then recovers.
I cannot really PvP as I have now lost 2 ships and a pod due to these issues...
I spent 2 days troubleshooting my machine and did not find any issues...then I thought maybe my network was the issue - and then I played 4 hours of SC2 with not a single network pause...
I also have a recorded fight where It happens like 4 or 5 times...but FRAPs doesn't see the client freeze up...it just looks like i am sitting there with the mouse still...
Really frustrating...
Windows 7 core i5 GTX 260 8GB DDR3 RAM
Would get them once every blue moon before while running 2 clients...now with one client it is unbearable. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2326
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Posted - 2013.12.02 21:26:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Kamiko Senra wrote:I can reliably reproduce that this happens with a fps drop to 0 for a split second every time a market call is made or order is updated. Thanks, this is a good lead, we'll investigate. Er... That's been around for like forever. The easiest way to see it is go to Jita and view market details for a PLEX. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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