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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:07:00 -
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Well the other night while looting from a mission a pirate showed up and blue up my friend who where in a hauler... no problem, good job finding us there btw (deadspace mission).
Anyway .. so we go back this time armed and prepared... well sort of, Mind you either of us know pvp good, and if I can avoid to fight I do.
So this pirate once again show up with his raven fitted with tech 2 missiles and this time I have tanked for the damage so he does not do much damage to me, I nos him, warpscramble him and after I get him down to half armor he warps off... yes we where 2 battleships against his one... but still he is or should be more experienced in the art of PvP than me.
So my point to this thread ??? to tell that Pirates use WCS too... I am sure this guy had atleast 1 wcs on his ship. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. |
Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:10:00 -
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thank you for letting me know, I will be sure to keep that in mind.
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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Electric Cucumber
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:10:00 -
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If he evaded 1 scrambler he had at least 2 WCS,but so what? Kaos Empire |
Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:14:00 -
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i started thinking about using 6 stabs on my tempest.. because all my opponents have like +3 stabs
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zincol
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:15:00 -
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2x WCS is Standard PVP setup these days.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:17:00 -
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I luv stabs
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:30:00 -
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Well atleast don't complain about carebears using WCS then
BTW... was fun fighting him. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. |
pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Arcticblue2 Well atleast don't complain about carebears using WCS then
BTW... was fun fighting him.
we use them because they used them first
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:04:00 -
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Why complain about stabs? Those were made for pirates - for skirmish warfare, to fight blobs, to fight outnumbered, to get a kill and run. WCS are good, i like them, i really like them, i nearly love them, but like them, i lalalalalike them...
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Skoodwask
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:13:00 -
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WCS are a losing strat. When you fit them you might as well say, I'm not going to win the fight. If you fit WCS you sarcrifice power for safety. Only people afriad to lose there ships fit them.
If your afraid to lose your ship you probably can't afford to lose it. If you can't afford to lose it you shouldn't fly it.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 27/02/2006 13:40:40
Quote: WCS are a losing strat. When you fit them you might as well say, I'm not going to win the fight. If you fit WCS you sarcrifice power for safety. Only people afriad to lose there ships fit them.
If your afraid to lose your ship you probably can't afford to lose it. If you can't afford to lose it you shouldn't fly it.
Hm...no
Stabs are perfect to attack a group that outnumbers your group. You warp in, kill one and warp out. So you expect to win. WCS make you ship be a skirmish combat unit - nothting more or less.
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tiller
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:12:00 -
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Yup, I fly with usually 2 or 3.
The main argument for not using stabs is they gimp your setup. With the raven however you have a few spare low slots that would not improve your dmg or tank that much if used by something else.
Fitting something to let you run away from a fight that you are about to lose is a good thing. Remember, pirates by there very nature do alot more fighting than others and can't afford to lose a ship everytime a bunch of heros blob them at a gate.
Alot of PVP skill in eve boils down to how brave you are and knowing when a fight is hopeless or you have a chance of winning. If you have a chance of winning a fight, stay and fight... if not just leave, there is no point dieing for nothing unless your either dumb or rich.
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tiller
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Skoodwask WCS are a losing strat. When you fit them you might as well say, I'm not going to win the fight. If you fit WCS you sarcrifice power for safety. Only people afriad to lose there ships fit them.
If your afraid to lose your ship you probably can't afford to lose it. If you can't afford to lose it you shouldn't fly it.
Really m8, don't post unless you've thought things through. On a average gate camp solo maybe I'll kill 2-3 BS, a couple of HACS and a ton of other assorted ships totalling say 20-30. Thats in a couple of hours. Now I'm guessing thats more than you kill in a wk. Just a guess mind you....
Do you think killing in those kind of quanitys increases the risk of losing my own ship in the process ?, do you think anyone who kills for a living in eve could sustain a loss every day ?
think, then post :)
ps: I'm not bigging myself up, any fool can kill people.. staying alive long enough to do it is the trick. Stabs are a tool to help me do what I enjoy.
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:44:00 -
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Its quite funny, because in the ISSN we *never* fit WCS to our PvP setups, but 80%+ of the pirates we encounter have them fitted.
And we're the ones accused of being carebears!
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:49:00 -
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explains why I fly with 2x 7.5km = 4
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: EvilTwin I explains why I fly with 2x 7.5km = 4
wont help when I fly a thron
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Qu'ut Nez
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:54:00 -
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The modules are there to be used, pirate or not. You're not entitled to warp scrambling anyone, pirate or not.
Obligatory "but still I don't use them" comment: I don't fly anything bigger than a Ferox for PvP, cause otherwise I'm too concerned about losing it. I fit stabs for running gate camps, but that's not really PvP. More like being an asteroid evading evil miners.
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tiller
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 27/02/2006 15:09:16
Originally by: Butter Dog Its quite funny, because in the ISSN we *never* fit WCS to our PvP setups, but 80%+ of the pirates we encounter have them fitted.
And we're the ones accused of being carebears!
Though I doubt you are solo in high sec space with every wannabe hunting you
Hunting in a fleet is a different story alltogether..
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: zincol 2x WCS is Standard PVP setup these days.
I don't even tank, I'm such a puss... I fit like every low-slot with WCS. sometimes co-procs if I need the cpu to fit more WCS.
In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:17:00 -
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stabpacker
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:34:00 -
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Theres nothing wrong with using stabs, their an important part of eve , and an important part of ship set ups. for those that say their for wimps, remember:
'It's better to run, and come back to fight another day than to drop dead like a 4 horned donkey' Sun Tzu nullMy own version of his statement
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:37:00 -
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When fighting rediculously outnumbered stabs are a big help...but I don't use stabs much in empire because its too hard to tank and gank while wearing stabs.
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.27 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 27/02/2006 15:09:16
Originally by: Butter Dog Its quite funny, because in the ISSN we *never* fit WCS to our PvP setups, but 80%+ of the pirates we encounter have them fitted.
And we're the ones accused of being carebears!
Though I doubt you are solo in high sec space with every wannabe hunting you
Hunting in a fleet is a different story alltogether..
No but I am often alone in KDF with every pirate corp in Catch on my rear end... :) Believe me, it gets hot down there.
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Atom HeartMother
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:11:00 -
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Stabs Make Babey Jesus CRY
Originally by: Bonaventure Augustus
Because lets be honest, the number of people who play this game drunk on the weekends is astounding.
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Aeron Ralth
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:18:00 -
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As a perceptive poet once said...
And therefore I, with reason, chose This stratagem t' amuse our foes; To make an honourable retreat, And wave a total sure defeat; For those that fly may fight again, Which he can never do that's slain. Hence timely running's no mean part Of conduct in the martial art;
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Tiffany Aleeus
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Posted - 2006.02.27 19:35:00 -
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wtf was that last post about?
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Yarek Balear
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Posted - 2006.02.27 20:02:00 -
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It basically says that it's better to retreat (using WCS) and fight again than die...
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: EvilTwin I explains why I fly with 2x 7.5km = 4
wont help when I fly a thron
hopefully u dont waste half of your lows on stabs?
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:06:00 -
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Atom HeartMother Stabs Make Babey Jesus CRY
True ^^
/votekick stabs
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