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griff1972
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:10:00 -
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Is there any way for kill boards to detect if kill mails are fake or have been tampered in any way
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:12:00 -
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Doubt it. i geuss you could always name and shame the guy.
and have proff that its a fake
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gdfgsgsegrerg
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:14:00 -
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in the words of Shaggy "It wasn't me" |
zincol
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:14:00 -
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Faking killmails on your killboard shows weakness.
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: thedragoon on 27/02/2006 12:35:49
Originally by: griff1972 Is there any way for kill boards to detect if kill mails are fake or have been tampered in any way
Yes if you do not have the loss mail for it and there is a post u should identify that with the peson that claims to have the final blow..
For instance when we posted the kill on icemans navey raven someone copies and pasted an ASCN member into it We contacted our administrator of our boards and had it removed,...
As it turns out it was posted from an ASCN member and they had a warning that they would be cut off from using our boards.
1. How did he know it was ASCN ? A. it was posted using there password...
the real question is why would anyone want to do that and esp why would an ASCN member want to post that LOL
**Edit** i think that it would be imposs to have it automated on a kill board to stop it it is just somthing you will have to keep an eye on. Burn Eden Vs Blue |
Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.02.27 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon Edited by: thedragoon on 27/02/2006 12:35:49
Originally by: griff1972 Is there any way for kill boards to detect if kill mails are fake or have been tampered in any way
Yes if you do not have the loss mail for it and there is a post u should identify that with the peson that claims to have the final blow..
For instance when we posted the kill on icemans navey raven someone copies and pasted an ASCN member into it We contacted our administrator of our boards and had it removed,...
As it turns out it was posted from an ASCN member and they had a warning that they would be cut off from using our boards.
1. How did he know it was ASCN ? A. it was posted using there password...
the real question is why would anyone want to do that and esp why would an ASCN member want to post that LOL
**Edit** i think that it would be imposs to have it automated on a kill board to stop it it is just somthing you will have to keep an eye on.
Thats one way, but it'd only work if you're using the same killboard, which isn't always the case..
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:00:00 -
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not unless ccp do 1
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc not unless ccp do 1
Thats about the only good suggestion i ever hear u make
Di you just buy that account Burn Eden Vs Blue |
Simon Illian
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:30:00 -
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and i don't think they will, it's not CS.
They will apparently implemente an Elo system
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon
Originally by: thoth foc not unless ccp do 1
Thats about the only good suggestion i ever hear u make
Di you just buy that account
shush slacker.. it's after lunch already.. and still no BE thread...
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Malken on 27/02/2006 14:09:33 there are lamers everywhere posting crap fake mails.
here is one such mail
first ive never been in otherworld empire alliance nor in Raytech Inc corporation. nor do i have caldari frigate to L5 wich is needed to fly a caldari interceptor.
the .5 boys made a real poo-pooo with that one :)
dont think ive ever been in 4B-NQN either. kinda shows you how sad these ppl are really.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: thedragoon Edited by: thedragoon on 27/02/2006 12:35:49
Originally by: griff1972 Is there any way for kill boards to detect if kill mails are fake or have been tampered in any way
Yes if you do not have the loss mail for it and there is a post u should identify that with the peson that claims to have the final blow..
For instance when we posted the kill on icemans navey raven someone copies and pasted an ASCN member into it We contacted our administrator of our boards and had it removed,...
As it turns out it was posted from an ASCN member and they had a warning that they would be cut off from using our boards.
1. How did he know it was ASCN ? A. it was posted using there password...
the real question is why would anyone want to do that and esp why would an ASCN member want to post that LOL
**Edit** i think that it would be imposs to have it automated on a kill board to stop it it is just somthing you will have to keep an eye on.
Fragm, it could be a backstage maneuver from an infiltrated spy aswell. I remember that incident very well and only someone very dumb or very blind would use DDC as a corp name. Also if I remember correctly, they were ASCN lossmails, and not killmails?
..but that's me talking.
as for the OP, there is no telling how a killmail is fake, however, if you see 7 machariels killed in 3 minutes by a plated rax like I did once, well I think that shows where the fake is ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Chribba
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Malken first ive never been in otherworld empire alliance nor in Raytech Inc corporation.
noone has except me and noone ever will be a part of my alliance :P
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Malken Edited by: Malken on 27/02/2006 14:09:33 there are lamers everywhere posting crap fake mails.
here is one such mail
first ive never been in otherworld empire alliance nor in Raytech Inc corporation. nor do i have caldari frigate to L5 wich is needed to fly a caldari interceptor.
the .5 boys made a real poo-pooo with that one :)
dont think ive ever been in 4B-NQN either. kinda shows you how sad these ppl are really.
wow.. not only is your info wrong but so is everyone's involved.. you making up crap again?
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
Malken
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Malken Edited by: Malken on 27/02/2006 14:09:33 there are lamers everywhere posting crap fake mails.
here is one such mail
first ive never been in otherworld empire alliance nor in Raytech Inc corporation. nor do i have caldari frigate to L5 wich is needed to fly a caldari interceptor.
the .5 boys made a real poo-pooo with that one :)
dont think ive ever been in 4B-NQN either. kinda shows you how sad these ppl are really.
wow.. not only is your info wrong but so is everyone's involved.. you making up crap again?
nope but apparently some of your ppl have been making crap up. looks like it was done a while back though. as the OP of this thread was talking about fake mails and had the battleclininc sig i decided to go look at that site and found that fake loss.
i do not have caldari frigate L5 - not ****ting about that and as cribba said also, ive never been in otherworld empire nor raytech corp. it is obviously a fake. i suggest you go ask your ppl why they post fake mails to fluff their numbers instead. its not like a mail with that much inaccuracies wont be spotted as a fake is it?, especially the caldari frig L5 part, but i guess they saw my character was caldari but had no clue.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Malken Edited by: Malken on 27/02/2006 14:09:33 there are lamers everywhere posting crap fake mails.
here is one such mail
first ive never been in otherworld empire alliance nor in Raytech Inc corporation. nor do i have caldari frigate to L5 wich is needed to fly a caldari interceptor.
the .5 boys made a real poo-pooo with that one :)
dont think ive ever been in 4B-NQN either. kinda shows you how sad these ppl are really.
wow.. not only is your info wrong but so is everyone's involved.. you making up crap again?
nope but apparently some of your ppl have been making crap up. looks like it was done a while back though. as the OP of this thread was talking about fake mails and had the battleclininc sig i decided to go look at that site and found that fake loss.
i do not have caldari frigate L5 - not ****ting about that and as cribba said also, ive never been in otherworld empire nor raytech corp. it is obviously a fake. i suggest you go ask your ppl why they post fake mails to fluff their numbers instead. its not like a mail with that much inaccuracies wont be spotted as a fake is it?, especially the caldari frig L5 part, but i guess they saw my character was caldari but had no clue.
we dont use battleclinic.. so why would we care to "fluff" our stats there?? use some common sense and go talk to whoever runs that site, rather than making silly statements here..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
Malken
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Malken Edited by: Malken on 27/02/2006 14:09:33 there are lamers everywhere posting crap fake mails.
here is one such mail
first ive never been in otherworld empire alliance nor in Raytech Inc corporation. nor do i have caldari frigate to L5 wich is needed to fly a caldari interceptor.
the .5 boys made a real poo-pooo with that one :)
dont think ive ever been in 4B-NQN either. kinda shows you how sad these ppl are really.
wow.. not only is your info wrong but so is everyone's involved.. you making up crap again?
nope but apparently some of your ppl have been making crap up. looks like it was done a while back though. as the OP of this thread was talking about fake mails and had the battleclininc sig i decided to go look at that site and found that fake loss.
i do not have caldari frigate L5 - not ****ting about that and as cribba said also, ive never been in otherworld empire nor raytech corp. it is obviously a fake. i suggest you go ask your ppl why they post fake mails to fluff their numbers instead. its not like a mail with that much inaccuracies wont be spotted as a fake is it?, especially the caldari frig L5 part, but i guess they saw my character was caldari but had no clue.
we dont use battleclinic.. so why would we care to "fluff" our stats there?? use some common sense and go talk to whoever runs that site, rather than making silly statements here..
neither i use battleclinic as it is a really laggy site and i have no clue as to why you need to fluff your epeen there either. i know that your epeen was fluffed on that site with totally wrong information. if you dont want everyone to see it then go talk to battleclinic admins about it as i dont care because i can so easily disprove that mail if someone should inquire about it. its only embarassing to you as you seem to take it abit personal. my bet is that the one with the final blow is the one who wanted to fluff his numbers.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
neither i use battleclinic as it is a really laggy site and i have no clue as to why you need to fluff your epeen there either. i know that your epeen was fluffed on that site with totally wrong information. if you dont want everyone to see it then go talk to battleclinic admins about it as i dont care because i can so easily disprove that mail if someone should inquire about it. its only embarassing to you as you seem to take it abit personal. my bet is that the one with the final blow is the one who wanted to fluff his numbers.
So let me get this straight..
u posted here to cry that there was a killmail of a site none of the involved parties use.. that was obviously faked (since none of the parties involved where correct)
And proceeded to smack us and the site creators..
Dont feel too bad if we laugh alittle at you
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
TURBOman
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Posted - 2006.02.27 15:52:00 -
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Pointless posting ftl
Linkage Your sig is too large, please reduce it's size and have the ladies in it give me a call - Ductoris |
Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:05:00 -
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tbh it could also be you Malken that posted it make 5 look bad. We all know how much you all love eachother but I doubt it's any of you that posted it. Probably a fan boy of both that didi it.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:38:00 -
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Ok, so hypothetically is it acceptable to 'reconstruct' a killmail? Ya'know if one of your corpmates managed to delete it, or it's copied off a different killboard? -- We are recruiting
We sell carriers. |
thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 16:51:00 -
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Only CCP can regulate internal game data (like mails).. anything outside game is completely up to your own ideas..
If you made the kill, no one can prove you made up mail rather than posted an original, since you have to copy the original to post it anywhere anyway..
As you can see from this thread some ppl get very upset over killmails, most dont take it to that extreme, stats on how your doing are nice, but in the end it's the fun hunting that most do it for..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
Xelios
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Posted - 2006.02.27 17:01:00 -
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This is one reason I think killmails should have a "verification number" attached to them. Say a copy of every kill mail is kept in the DB for 1 month, a few KB of data each, and every kill mail gets a unique number. From there you'd just need a simple interface in EVE where you input the number and it generates the kill mail. But this a low priority "it'd be nice" feature, I'd much rather see the devs focus on more important things.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected]) Woot.
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li tbh it could also be you Malken that posted it make 5 look bad.
nope, ive always been shooting straight i dont have to lie up mail to take a poke at the45 if need be, they make it so easy with the total aggro replys like thoths post there.
Originally by: Nira Li
We all know how much you all love eachother but I doubt it's any of you that posted it. Probably a fan boy of both that didi it.
as i said earlier thats what i thought also but someone in this thread is very worried about his epeen and its not me, i dont have to swag mine around.
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:35:00 -
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If you look at the kill mail you see that shinra is part of 2 different alliances and the weapons belong to the wrong ship so.. It doesn't make any sence that a member from 5. would post it, could aswell be a database screw up.
But posting it was 5. that needed to swing their epeen only make it look like a lame smack attempt by you.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malken neither i use battleclinic as it is a really laggy site and i have no clue as to why you need to fluff your epeen there either. i know that your epeen was fluffed on that site with totally wrong information. if you dont want everyone to see it then go talk to battleclinic admins about it as i dont care because i can so easily disprove that mail if someone should inquire about it. its only embarassing to you as you seem to take it abit personal. my bet is that the one with the final blow is the one who wanted to fluff his numbers.
Guess you missed the fact that every single one of the participants listed on that kill are listed wrong? Either theyre in the wrong corp (Gasp like you?) or in the wrong alliance (Gasp like you?) or flying a ship they cant fly. (Gasp like you?)
Surely even you should notoice the similarities and the obvious conclusion that comes from that? -------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.02.27 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
as i said earlier thats what i thought also but someone in this thread is very worried about his epeen and its not me
really? you seem upset enuff about it to break the forums rules to post it..
if it makes you feel better a raptor kill would be worth less than most t1 cruisers to us..
--thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2006.02.27 21:39:00 -
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This thread is exactly why killboard discussions aren't allowed here.
Moved to OOPE. ---
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Abdalion This thread is exactly why killboard discussions aren't allowed here.
This is also why killboards are a complete waste of time.
There's only three types of people in the game: you; people who believe you; and people who don't believe you.
You know what you killed. You don't need a killmail to tell you. People who believe you, will believe you whether you post a killmail or not. People who don't believe you, won't believe you whether you post a killmail or not.
So the killmail is completely useless. Except maybe for finding out what stuff got destroyed, but that's down to sheer luck anyway. You can't take credit for the fact that a guy had uber mods fitted. ________________________________________________
"I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked." |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.02.27 23:28:00 -
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i once made a fake killmail. it involved chuck norris RHKing my titan to death in an ibis, and was perfectly on topic at the time on the forums. however, it was seen by an admin and removed
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