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JamnOne
Jammin Corp
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Posted - 2013.12.05 15:40:00 -
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Hi Everybody,
I was flying around the other day in my freighter and was thinking it would be awesome if it had some low slots. Not for repair or resists modules but for propulsion upgrade modules and nanofibers.
What do you think? |
bubble trout
Sky Fighters
108
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Posted - 2013.12.05 15:45:00 -
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No? |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1557
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Posted - 2013.12.05 16:01:00 -
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i've been thinking about this for a while. one low slot to improve cargo, agility or EHP would seem a very nice addition. of course, you would have to deal with hordes of whiny suicide gankers.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Echo Mande
61
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Posted - 2013.12.05 18:13:00 -
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Only if freighter are nerfed so that cargo capacity never reaches a million M3. IMHO CCP is totally correct in wanting to keep carriers out of highsec. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1557
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Posted - 2013.12.05 18:35:00 -
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Echo Mande wrote:Only if freighter are nerfed so that cargo capacity never reaches a million M3. IMHO CCP is totally correct in wanting to keep carriers out of highsec. shouldn't be all too hard; just nerf the base cargo capacity so that one Expanded Cargohold still keeps the charon slightly under 1kk with perfect skills. people will ***** and moan because they now have to choose if they want less EHP or more EHP and less cargo space but eventually, they will adapt.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
223
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:24:00 -
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Or, preferably, code a better way to keep capitals out of highsec than having to artificially keep cargo limits under a certain threshold. |
zatazon
Old Timers Guild Coalition of Old Timers
41
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:18:00 -
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Or limit what can be placed in the low slots to anything except cargo expanders |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
784
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Posted - 2013.12.05 23:41:00 -
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zatazon wrote:Or limit what can be placed in the low slots to anything except cargo expanders
Whats the EHP of a charon with a DCU II running? |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
279
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:00:00 -
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Why stop at low slots?
I think CCP didn't give them slots because they wanted them to be all the same. |
Savnire Jacitu
FRONTLiNE GRP.
215
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:07:00 -
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Give them an 8/8/8 combo with bonuses to all guns and they can now have titan grade weapons with tracking bonuses. <corrupt> |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
279
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:22:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:Give them an 8/8/8 combo with bonuses to all guns and they can now have titan grade weapons with tracking bonuses.
Don't forget they need to have seige mode, have enough power for capital modules |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.12.06 00:27:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote: you would have to deal with hordes of whiny suicide gankers.
I doubt it, any one foolish enough to fill up their pinata with enough value to be ganked would most likely put a cargo expander on it, making it easier to gank. |
Irvam Nebail
Breathe.
2
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Posted - 2013.12.06 03:28:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
Whats the EHP of a charon with a DCU II running?
387k according to EveHQ |
JamnOne
Jammin Corp
11
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Posted - 2013.12.06 03:33:00 -
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I definitely wasn't thinking of cargo expanders. I was just thinking of ways to help it turn quicker. No Warp Bonuses. No ABs. Plus with propulsion upgrades, it takes away from Hull HP so they die quicker so gankers shoulding be whining. |
Wyte Ragnarok
55
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Posted - 2013.12.06 10:39:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Why stop at low slots?
I think CCP didn't give them slots because they wanted them to be all the same.
Savnire Jacitu wrote:Give them an 8/8/8 combo with bonuses to all guns and they can now have titan grade weapons with tracking bonuses.
Would personally use:
[Charon, Charon]
Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Shield Boost Amplifier II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I Large Projectile Burst Aerator I [empty rig slot]
But then, I've only just fit that. Will have to test it first ;) |
Zenith Gravit
LionGate Enterprises Care Factor
22
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:35:00 -
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^ That would be amazing for extended nullsec derployments with all that room for ammo. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
194
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Posted - 2013.12.07 12:18:00 -
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Echo Mande wrote:Only if freighter are nerfed so that cargo capacity never reaches a million M3. IMHO CCP is totally correct in wanting to keep carriers out of highsec. Easily done. Simply split the current Cargobay into a 500,000 m3 cargohold and a 300,000 m3 (approximate values) Fleet hangar. The cargo capacity at Freighter [5] should be kept the same but as it's split into two seperate bays, although its total capacity may exceed a million cubic meters it can never be used to haul capitals.
With this sort of limitation it may be viable to further increase the space - at the risk of the pilot of course. It might be worth having both bays capable of hauling fitted BS for example without a significant overlap for people to complain about.
Not that long ago the idea of Fleet Hangars on Freighters would have raised issues with them hauling for mining ops but as there are ways that can be done now anyway... |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2013.12.07 15:14:00 -
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Wyte Ragnarok wrote:IIshira wrote:Why stop at low slots?
I think CCP didn't give them slots because they wanted them to be all the same. Savnire Jacitu wrote:Give them an 8/8/8 combo with bonuses to all guns and they can now have titan grade weapons with tracking bonuses. Would personally use: [Charon, Charon] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400 Shield Boost Amplifier II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I Large Projectile Burst Aerator I [empty rig slot] But then, I've only just fit that. Will have to test it first ;)
This would make freighter ganking very interesting LOL |
Meyr
SiN Corp Black Core Alliance
143
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Posted - 2013.12.08 05:36:00 -
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Nice to see the gankers derailing a thread.
Many times, it has been suggested that CCP nerf cargo capacity to an amount where a single Cargohold Expander will provide what is now a freighter's current cargo capacity.
In exchange, they would receive one low slot, roughly 40 CPU, and one or two PG.
The wailing and gnashing of teeth, howls of outrage, and cries of "Don't make MY fun harder, CCP!!" from the ganking community are positively epic. |
JamnOne
Jammin Corp
11
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Posted - 2013.12.14 23:18:00 -
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That is not a bad idea. This way a person can use a cargo expander to reach max capacity of the freighter or propulsion upgrades that will lower the hull's hit points. |
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CMD Ishikawa
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:45:00 -
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They won't do that because carebears complains are nothing compared to suicide gankers whines, tears and cries. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
353
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Posted - 2013.12.15 14:51:00 -
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Imagine how many 10/10s you could run/tank/loot with a decently fitted ASB-Nomad. It even has it's own jumpdrive! "I honestly thought I was in lowsec" |
Meyr
SiN Corp Black Core Alliance
149
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:20:00 -
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Actually, it's the prospect of a Freighter equipped with a DC II that creates all of the tears. |
Alcorak
Stealth Tactics and Reconnaissance Service Rebel Alliance of New Eden
9
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Posted - 2013.12.16 19:02:00 -
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This also needs a role bonuses. Maybe a built-in sebo or 2 to lock up those tornados faster. And a special tractor that repackages ganker ships and sticks them in the cargo bay. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
287
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:34:00 -
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Alcorak wrote:This also needs a role bonuses. Maybe a built-in sebo or 2 to lock up those tornados faster. And a special tractor that repackages ganker ships and sticks them in the cargo bay.
That's awesome! |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
275
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:51:00 -
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Classic Freighter Fitting Example I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
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