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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:02:00 -
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I hate to loose the things I manage to do in the last few days but this patch is a joke.
If they patch all the loan bugs it just makes the code more & more messy for future updates & unfindable bugs.
Most had got used to the drone hassel & online status was no biggy.
Last night I just logged out didnt bother at all, the night before wasnt much better was server going down every 5 mins.
The longer its left the worst a rollback becomes & the greater chance of someone having a massive change, taking a region getting a bpo ect.
Accept this patch is a total ****** & rollback.
I think the server upgrade going well give you a boost & you got sloppy, very common in pvp also that.
I didnt test most things on test server patch wasnt on it for 5 mins & test server was down loads, I did see some bugs right away so you just didnt look at all. _______________________________________
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:05:00 -
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It seemed perfectly alright this morning
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Ace Combat
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:05:00 -
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Please sit down.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember the old description for Caldari.. light and nimble ships my ass. :( |
solidshot
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler It seemed perfectly alright this morning
apart from some minor yo-yoing it's much better than last night so far.
now i've said that we'll probably have the d/t of doom
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Hector Rives
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:15:00 -
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Everything seemed to be running smoothly this morning.
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Zhaine
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:15:00 -
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Calm down, do something else for a bit. . . A couple of days of problems is a fair price for the quality of this game and CCP, and if you don't think so you're free to leave, just don't clog up the forums on your way out. . .
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:18:00 -
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my drones were exceptionally well behaved, for example, they didn't attack asteroids when i have an entire level shooting at me, although I did have some problems getting them back into the bay, but that isn't too bad,
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Joe
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:20:00 -
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20 ctd in less than 24 hours. You have to expect this after major patchs, I wouldn't advise any pvp or 0.0 shennanigins untill all the forum whining has stopped post patch, and the servers sound like they're back to normal.
In the famous words of that Turtle forum sig... 'When a Patch comes along, Dock and Cover'
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Madgic
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:27:00 -
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The reason the game wasnt as bad this morning as it was last night was because not as many people could log on. The game was crashing at character entry.
I agree before any complaints happen we need to wait and see, but Id love to have at least 1 post or maybe an article explaining what the problem is, and telling us to be patient or avoid doing this and that.
Im enjoying this game so far, and believe me a lack of comunication and bad bugs and downtime are all part of the on line gaming scene, In the last game i played (and do still Visit)there are buggs that have been there for years and never fixed Downtime is usually at least 24 hours usually more, role backs happen EVERY time, Lag is an absolute killer, Memory leaks are mandetory and well to be honest its just normal.
One time I logged in and No one was complaining about anything!!! |
ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:27:00 -
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As been a victim of the great saturn neocron 1, 1 month rollback and a eve patch veteran I know what im talking about, and frankly calm down, there is no need for a roll back the patch went in quite well and the ironing out is going quite succesfully. I'd say better than there RMR deployment.
As for the test server it wasn'ta ctually down lots, just patched quite a bit which would lead to your launcher not been able to see the server on a few occasions. Plus testing on the test server with about 50 people does not compare to 20'000 nubbins trying to break something or all jump through the same gate. Secondly you don't have a clue how there rewriting all the code, in hotfix's heck they could just be changing variables. So wether it will make it messy or not for future updates is debatable.
As for rollbacks in eve, has there ever been one?
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitri Chandler It seemed perfectly alright this morning
Seems to depend on what ya doing, was ok yestday morning also but lets not blame it on the load, with 100 man on test server the bugs were showing yet the patch was deployed.
Looking in the sticky there already done about 4 patching of the patch & lots of bugs still to go.
The drones have new worse bugs it sounds like, not tested.
The gates & systems closing it lethal to people at war.
Who cares about new bloodline that have been hiding under a rock for 1000's of years wile we been protecting the space.
Memory leak now both sides.
Refining is bugged.
Misson are bugged.
Bloodline caraters bugged.
Manufacturing bugged.
Loading ammo ammo size bugged.
Windows opening all over & temp fixes not working, check new link.
Overview buggged bad, can cause deaths.
News update post read that, notice things like a fix then later a patch to fix that fix.
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Originally by: Slothe killed a guy and his ship was still showing over 5 mind later.
please reimburse him his ship hes likely to petition as he was lagged out. i felt bad after i spoke to him.
HeHe this also happen on 100man test server, I logged after a wile of the ship not popping & returned the next day docked & repaird the ship, yet me & the killer both had killmails, classic.
Well at least ya got a few new faces to look at, hmmm. _______________________________________
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darth solo
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:38:00 -
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EVE is funny... ccp dont realise all we are looking for is a stable game... add a few different things aye, but concentrate on the lag and gameplay most... i dont even know what the bloodlines thing is, and dont really care....
one thing hat used to REALLY annoy me was CCP chaninging stupid things that never needed changed..
d solo.
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire Plus testing on the test server with about 50 people does not compare to 20'000 nubbins trying to break something or all jump through the same gate.
As for rollbacks in eve, has there ever been one?
Well this is whats is most annoying, the bugs were showing on test server with only 100 guys online, I bet if I had tried a mission them bugs also showed. only traffic control was less noticebale but as I traveled I had to junp 2 times to online the empty systems.
The patch was claerly not tested &/or ccp expect only player to report bugs on testserver & we dont bother.
Improve bug reporting or do your own ccp.
Yes there was I think recall when I was new, propbly lost 200k isk & got well upset at the time. _______________________________________
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Matrix Aran
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:52:00 -
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*Bright flash of light*
You did not see any of the bugs on the server. You did not see your ship warp in reverse at a gate. You did not see any of the 4000 traffic advisories. You did not see Oveur wearing a pink wig. You will not go on about rolling back the patch.
Thank you for your time sir, your eye exam was a success, you have 20-20 vision.
This signature is protected be McArff Anti-signature-hacking software Might want to upgrade that - Cortes It's not colour proof thats for sure -eris HI MOM -eris too |
Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:54:00 -
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CCP have their own things they want to develop into the game - a lot of it isnt and is called upon for ideas from playerbase.
Seems more stable now u forget 2 days after every big patch is the same. They are a business and lots of new things keep people playing otherwise they loose their edge.
COming up with kali (factional warfare more developed NPC trade goods - days sicne last login info corparation devisional wallets that just arent rights but the real thing) Medals gang changes (max caps on gangs) with specific improvements - after that jove expansion and planetary interaction (colonies - invasions all that stuff) - planetary combat (upper atmosphere stuff) u aint seen nothing yet CCP requested feature please - quite simple really.
For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed - |
Lei Gunston
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:57:00 -
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Try and take away my new seksi character and there will be trouble, m'kay?
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.03.04 11:59:00 -
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existing items in the database should be fine unless youre trading try escrow tho realise that after 1000 items u need to be in the region or statoin to get em to appear (another bug) CCP requested feature please - quite simple really.
For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed - |
SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:00:00 -
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Everything seems fine here I dont see what all the fuss is about. _______________________________________
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:05:00 -
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Rolling back is an extreme action that should only be done under extreme situations.
A patch being a bit buggy for the first coupple of days does not warant such an action.
Simply sit tight and wait for the devs to sort out the issues, sute you may loose some enjoyment today and tomorrow but overall the game will be better for it.
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ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo EVE is funny... ccp dont realise all we are looking for is a stable game... add a few different things aye, but concentrate on the lag and gameplay most... i dont even know what the bloodlines thing is, and dont really care....
one thing hat used to REALLY annoy me was CCP chaninging stupid things that never needed changed..
d solo.
so true :(
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BLAIYNE
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Aran You did not see Oveur wearing a pink wig.
Sorry, but no amount of brainwashing will remove the horror of that image from my mind!
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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 04/03/2006 12:21:40
Quote: As for rollbacks in eve, has there ever been one?
Join me, as we travel into the way back machine!
Way back in early release a nasty duping bug was introduced into TQ. It relied on heavy lag, but in such situations you could dupe whole piles of megacyte over and over again. This went on for a few days before the exploit was found (because really few people would report it) and patched, but the affect was huge. Massive sums of money were introduced with no work, so CCP decided a roll back was in order. TQ was rolled back about a week while the duping bug was patched. It was the only time a rollback was issued, and thank god for that.
Quote: I did see some bugs right away
And you didn't bug report them? Because you know that's what the test server is for, not just to look at bugs and say "Hmm hope that gets fixed" but to find bugs and report them so they CAN be fixed.
Also the environment on the test server is MUCH different than TQ. The test server has what? 200 people on it at most? TQ has over 15,000 so some bugs (especially lag related bugs) simply won't be spotted until they're ported over to a server with tons of people on it.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected]) Woot.
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:23:00 -
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well the focus on the test server needs to be not just on combat but on implementations but that said yes the big ones are picked up on SISI mostly then the small ones on TQ. CCP requested feature please - quite simple really.
For CEOs days since last login details on all members in their Corp. this will help manage inactives and those that dont log in can be removed - |
Salo Koda
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:32:00 -
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Someone posts the same message after every patch in every PC game there is.
Either every single patch in every single pc game needs to be rolledback, or there are alot of whiney mofo's running around. You make the decision.
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Eyecandi
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Posted - 2006.03.04 12:57:00 -
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Rollback = the nuclear option
In my opinion the only time it should occur is when the effects of an introduced exploit are great enough to pretty much render elements of the game moot. I don't mean problems like lag, or something not working right, I mean that people sieze on a bug and exploit it in a way that breaks the game, and can't be stopped before the game is broken.
I wasn't aware of the reason for the rollback, but I did experience it (on a now-deleted toon, of course). Quite frankly, technical difficulties would not be acceptable to me as a reason for a rollback. Junk code would not be enough. If all I can do is sit in a station and switch skills, I would rather continue doing that until they fix the problems than suffering through another rollback and having all my progress (however small) wiped out.
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Chicxulub
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Posted - 2006.03.04 13:00:00 -
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no rollback plz, just work with it and find the bugs the quicker we do that and inform ccp then the quicker it will be fixed.
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Poister
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Posted - 2006.03.04 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Salo Koda Someone posts the same message after every patch in every PC game there is.
Either every single patch in every single pc game needs to be rolledback, or there are alot of whiney mofo's running around. You make the decision.
I think thats just your mind playing trick, same as RL we only remeber the bad, I dont recall the last time someone or a few used the evil word rollback.
There is so many new bugs this time, its the lesser of 2 evils, they can then go back & work more on the patch & ditch the stupid traffic system totaly.
Iv wasted 2 days so far & saturday & sunday is my best days I wanna use um propper, not sit idel in a station watching popups & waiting on reboot.
There be patching this lot for weeks & i bet some even remain as the new most wanted fix.
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xStormwingx
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Posted - 2006.03.04 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: xStormwingx on 04/03/2006 13:09:33
Originally by: Matrix Aran You did not see Oveur wearing a pink wig.
noooooooooooooooooooooo!!
Seriously people, why all this whining? It's not like this has been the OMFG WORST PATCH DAY EVAR >_<. CCP decided to patch it, a number of the stuff due to popular demand (cans and bloodlines and stuff) and it didn't quite work out the first time around.
OMG, it's the end of the world1!!1!1!1 MUST WHINE!!1!
BIG DEAL. Adapt and/or wait til the problems subside is a day or two or less. Is it THAT big of a deal? As for me, I'm just gonna log back on and...*Gasp*....adapt for the time being!
(flyer11's right too!) ---
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.03.04 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Quote: I did see some bugs right away
And you didn't bug report them? Because you know that's what the test server is for, not just to look at bugs and say "Hmm hope that gets fixed" but to find bugs and report them so they CAN be fixed.
Also the environment on the test server is MUCH different than TQ. The test server has what? 200 people on it at most? TQ has over 15,000 so some bugs (especially lag related bugs) simply won't be spotted until they're ported over to a server with tons of people on it.
I pay to play not pay to test, did you test did you report any ?, cheeky mofo, ccp wanna gimme a free account ill test & report alot.
Read me link above about test server bug reporting, its like using the ask a question crap petion & I dont even bother with that even for decent losses. _______________________________________
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Flyer11
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Posted - 2006.03.04 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: Flyer11 on 04/03/2006 13:09:22 god what is it with people moaning, a couple hours/days of unstablity for new things is it so much to deal with.. i mean bf2 ea have been promicing a fix to there patch for the past 4 weeks and stil nothing.. so thank yourselfs lucky that ccp actually do try and fix it and give it's community updates.. so sit down and just wait for it to be fixed sheeesh.. yes there are problems and they will be fixed in due time just have a little paitence
if you know theres bugs and can get screenshots then send a bug report in and help the guys out instead of whoring the forums moaning.. about how it's so unstable.. WoW is more unstable when it was in full swing than when tranq's having teething problems RED-A Member
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