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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:02:00 -
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With the release of EVE Online: Rubicon 1.0.8 on the 10th of December, Twitch.tv integration will be added to the client! This will allow you to bypass all 3rd party programs and stream directly to Twitch.tv!
CCP Rise has all of the details here.
Let us know how you would like this feature to evolve in the future, and how you intend to use it. We can expect more streams to pop up in the next couple of months, and we will welcome all of them with open arms! CCP Gargant | Community Representative | Tournament Referee |
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Garan Nardieu
Moira. Villore Accords
70
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:28:00 -
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First \o/ |
DaOpa
Static Corp
23
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:28:00 -
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Welcome to twitch!
DaOpa's EVE Fansite ||Wormhole Database / Wormhole Systems Lookup Tool ||Live Streamer at twitch.tv/daopa |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
1146
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:29:00 -
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First?
Edit: :( We are recruiting german-speaking PVP players, contact me :)
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Jet Burns
Zero Dot Zero
68
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:30:00 -
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You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
10307
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:33:00 -
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Swischt!
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
3347
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:39:00 -
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Jet Burns wrote:You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac!
Sorry for that =( We are disappointed by the lack of mac support as well. Because of the way we emulate EVE for macs we actually don't have much control over this. There's a problem with something called a 'wrapper' and the twitch SDK and from what I understand we have to investigate with an external provider to get it resolved.
Hopefully we can figure it out but our hands were tied for this release unfortunately. |
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Efraya
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
240
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:40:00 -
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I'll get my streaming boots on this evening and see how it pans out!
Thanks Kil2
WSpace; Best space. |
JP Nakamura
Union of Intergalactic Miners and Nano Assemblers
17
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:45:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Jet Burns wrote:You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac! Sorry for that =( We are disappointed by the lack of mac support as well. Because of the way we emulate EVE for macs we actually don't have much control over this. There's a problem with something called a 'wrapper' and the twitch SDK and from what I understand we have to investigate with an external provider to get it resolved. Hopefully we can figure it out but our hands were tied for this release unfortunately.
There is also a problem with something called a "wrapper" not being updated much, and providing a degraded experience to people on OSX ... hope you are investigating that too (you know, OpenGL is lovely and cross platform, just like Python). A little love for the Mac users would be nice. Please Read & Comment ( good / bad / or ugly ): [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2115191[/url] Suceeded in Rubicon (new Marauder specs).-áThanks CCP for listening! |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1559
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:47:00 -
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Great feature. Please work on a delay option pronto. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
733
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:51:00 -
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Read the dev blog.
See that delay isn't implemented.
Loled.
Good luck with that G££ <= Me |
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
3349
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:52:00 -
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I wish delay was easier to do, it's obviously the most attractive feature addition. Unfortunately it's also the least probable. Currently we can stream straight to twitch from the client without having to taken on any extra server load but to provide delay we would have to store the buffer on our own hardware for a huge scale of players. It would be difficult to say the least, and would likely mean a giant investment in new hardware.
Hopefully getting the option through twitch gets easier over time but for now partnership is the only option. |
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NightmareX
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:53:00 -
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Yeah, as other have said, add a delay mode. Also, add support for streaming at 1920x1080 resolution before this hits TQ.
A Quality mode where we can choose what kind of quality we want to stream in would also be nice.
Other than that, the 'Open Broadcaster Software' is awesome Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos.
Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama (31.10.2013): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291945 Rebirth 4: http://tinyurl.com/ktfyalo |
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
3349
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:55:00 -
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We are restricted in what resolutions we can offer based on the twitch SDK, but you can select from a wide range of options and then you can also choose the framerate all the way up to 60fps and then we automatically adjust the bitrate to handle your framerate selection. |
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
733
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:56:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:I wish delay was easier to do, it's obviously the most attractive feature addition. Unfortunately it's also the least probable. Currently we can stream straight to twitch from the client without having to taken on any extra server load but to provide delay we would have to store the buffer on our own hardware for a huge scale of players. It would be difficult to say the least, and would likely mean a giant investment in new hardware.
Hopefully getting the option through twitch gets easier over time but for now partnership is the only option.
Well, since you were streaming eve in the past, I guess that you're well aware that your streaming tool won't be used much as long as you cannot figure this out, hard to do or not. Same thing for an opption to hide the current system.
An integrated streaming tool should be better for eve than a non-eve streaming tool, not the opposite.
Also, shouldn't it be technically fesible to put the buffer on the client ? People streaming big fights when delays are needed have a strong hardware anyway. G££ <= Me |
Judas II
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
25
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Posted - 2013.12.09 15:57:00 -
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How does this ingame feature deal with external audio recording? (ie mic) Can we give live microphone comments while streaming? |
Abramul
StarFleet Enterprises Almost Awesome.
14
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:00:00 -
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Any chance of being able to watch the streams from in-client? We have that nice big screen in CQ, after all. |
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
3350
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:01:00 -
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I streamed EVE in the past in a really sensitive intel environment and did it with no delay or very little delay. I felt that what you gain strategically wasn't worth what I gave up by not being able to talk with stream viewers in real time. It's awkward when someone asks a question in chat and then has to wait 10 minutes to get an answer.
And while it would be nice if the integrated tool was better, I actually disagree that it 'should' be. The nice thing about integration is that it's very accessible. It's appealing to a broader audience who would rather have ease of use than having more options. I think if people start streaming because of integration and then realize they want more features and move to a dedicated tool for it that seems great. |
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
3350
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:02:00 -
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Judas II wrote:How does this ingame feature deal with external audio recording? (ie mic) Can we give live microphone comments while streaming?
Yes. Your stream will contain all the audio going on on your system. Microphone input/comms/music/game sound and anything will else will all be included. |
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Angelica Dreamstar
Desperate Desire Inc.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:10:00 -
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Tell Gargant that his avatar needs to shave his head!! |
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Rain6637
Team Evil
6930
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:11:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Yeah, as other have said, add a delay mode. Also, add support for streaming at 1920x1080 resolution before this hits TQ. A Quality mode where we can choose what kind of quality we want to stream in would also be nice. Other than that, the 'Open Broadcaster Software' is awesome higher than that even/don't stop at 1080p Rainfleet on Twitch |
Angelica Dreamstar
Desperate Desire Inc.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:14:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Jet Burns wrote:You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac! Sorry for that =( We are disappointed by the lack of mac support as well. Because of the way we emulate EVE for macs we actually don't have much control over this. There's a problem with something called a 'wrapper' and the twitch SDK and from what I understand we have to investigate with an external provider to get it resolved. Hopefully we can figure it out but our hands were tied for this release unfortunately. WINE Is Not an Emulator. It's a wrapper. |
Liu Ellens
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
103
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:23:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:And while it would be nice if the integrated tool was better, I actually disagree that it 'should' be. The nice thing about integration is that it's very accessible. It's appealing to a broader audience who would rather have ease of use than having more options. I think if people start streaming because of integration and then realize they want more features and move to a dedicated tool for it that seems great. I agree here; Initially I also thought that the integrated option should have all bells and whistles like OBS for instance - but then again, why recreate what's already available. The final roadblock a 'beefier' integrated version would run into anyway is a streaming multibox system.
Keep the basic functionality solid and avoid feature creep. Good stuff there. eve-kino - create machinimas with EVE assets in the browser eve-upro - an online browser application to support navigation in New Eden and beyond. |
Grandma Squirel
54
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:24:00 -
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Iterating is fine and all, but if you roll it as proposed, without overlays to hide sensitive information, and mandatory comms streaming, you will poison the well with all major alliances, they will ban its use, and when you get around to releasing a version that doesn't leak intel like a sieve, the anti-streaming policies will be very hard to reverse. Delay is the least important feature really, players can work around that, can't work around the other two issues. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2342
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:26:00 -
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You talked about sending out a stream from the client, but is there any client integration for receiving a stream? Is there any tool allowing me to browse just those those streams coming from Eve? Can I use the in-game browser? Or do I have to click out to a OOG browser? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
OutCast EG
Very Industrial Corp. Legion of xXDEATHXx
18
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:28:00 -
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ITT: people who don't understand what an 'entry level tool' is. |
Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
104
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:32:00 -
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Amazing but... duuuuuude, your overview.
How do you manage to fly? |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
202
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:34:00 -
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So I guess this is the official end to that promise of parity between the mac and pc clients.
What other features do you guys have planned for release that won't be available for your mac customers?
(And yes, I understand why this is technically happeningGǪ but that's kinda the problem.) |
Grandma Squirel
54
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:36:00 -
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OutCast EG wrote:ITT: people who don't understand what an 'entry level tool' is. An entry level tool includes at least the minimum functionality to make it not suck. That would be like calling a car with a top speed of 20mph an 'entry level car'. Some people may have a use for such a vehicle, but it wouldn't meet the minimum expectations of what people think a car is. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2342
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Posted - 2013.12.09 16:39:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Jet Burns wrote:You could have put the Mac disclaimer up front so I didn't have to read the wall-o-text. Please show some love for the Mac! Sorry for that =( We are disappointed by the lack of mac support as well. Because of the way we emulate EVE for macs we actually don't have much control over this. There's a problem with something called a 'wrapper' and the twitch SDK and from what I understand we have to investigate with an external provider to get it resolved. Hopefully we can figure it out but our hands were tied for this release unfortunately. An old joke: "Doctor, it hurts whenever I raise my arm like this". "Well then don't do that"
CCP to Mac customers "Making Eve work on a Mac with a wrapper breaks things". "Well, then make it work without the wrapper". http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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