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Prez21
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:09:00 -
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like the title says, it seems that there are too many patches too close to each other to actualy have a good few months of good gameplay, i know all the new ships, modules and bloodlines are good for the growth of the game but i would have gladly waited another 3 months for the bloodline patch and actualy of got the chance to get to put this new server to the test.
It just seems at the minute that when a new patch is deployed we have a week or so of expected bugs and hotfixes, maybe a few extended downtimes then things start to pick up, we then have a few weeks of good gameplay,, then its time for another patch and its back to square one.
I know CCP are doing a good job, but what i,d like to know is would the community prefer patches and new content to be deployed less often and have a good few months of gameplay or carry on as we are?
This is by no means a rant just wanted to discuss this and see how everyone else feels about it
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:11:00 -
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Arn't you supposed to be camping 6-OY??
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Zhou Enlai
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:11:00 -
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I am on a mission to post in every single freaking thread about the same goddamn subject and NONE OF THEM seem to be constructive.
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John Torakiba
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:15:00 -
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All the patches the last few days are to fix problems that have come up from the main upgrade done on Thur. They are unfortunately necessary so there is nothing to discuss here.
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John Torakiba
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:23:00 -
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I slightly misread your post, but since I have only played for a month and a half, there was the hardware upgrade and this patch. The hardware upgrade had to be done before this patch. Could you imagine the issues if they had tried to do both at the same time? Maybe I started after the last big patch, but a month and a half of excellent game play with only the morning reboots seems acceptable to me. Most sites patch weekly and you still have a day or 2 of instability. So to answer your question, I think a patch every 2 months or so is fine.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/03/2006 20:24:30 There hasn't been a patch since RMR... (other than blood)
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:35:00 -
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Microsoft would be bankrupt today if every single patch they have released creates two more potential patches tomorrow.
Whine about it, sleep over it, the world still spins round without you.
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Kane Ululani
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Microsoft would be bankrupt today if every single patch they have released creates two more potential patches tomorrow.
Microsoft makes money from people paying for patches. Its called "support".
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:46:00 -
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Cry me a river and go drown in it.. Now please stop whining and let CCP do their job.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.05 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Ululani
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Microsoft would be bankrupt today if every single patch they have released creates two more potential patches tomorrow.
Microsoft makes money from people paying for patches. Its called "support".
Not really, support these days means subscription based services. For Microsoft's non-subscription services, you only pay for the software once to receive an unlimited lifetime support for patches.
It is still cheap for $$$ per byte.
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Eyecandi
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:12:00 -
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Actually, I think that they should go ahead and keep releasing new content. For the most part my gameplay since patch has been stable. I know for a lot it hasn't been, but then if one aspect of Eve becomes unplayable there are other areas to work in as well. Missions borked? I run trade routes. Market borked? I rat. Region borked? I go elsewhere. And if Eve is borked? Well, there is always ratting, right here.
And yes, this is how it works in rl as well. I avoid heavily congested intersections even if it takes me extra minutes. If one restaraunt is jam packed, I go next door and enjoy that one instead. If one of my friends is sick, I hang out with someone else. If the theatre is sold out I might check out a club or one of the amateur sports complexes around town instead.
And we DO get months of GREAT gameplay at a time.
Teamwork is the only "I Win" button in Eve.--Ulthar
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Kane Ululani
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kane Ululani on 05/03/2006 21:31:22
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Not really, support these days means subscription based services. For Microsoft's non-subscription services, you only pay for the software once to receive an unlimited lifetime support for patches.
Did you pay for something or not? And does life cover the current os and software or not. So really you are talking about 4-5 years of coverage or less, until the software has its end of life.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.05 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/03/2006 21:47:01
Originally by: Kane Ululani Edited by: Kane Ululani on 05/03/2006 21:31:22
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Not really, support these days means subscription based services. For Microsoft's non-subscription services, you only pay for the software once to receive an unlimited lifetime support for patches.
Did you pay for something or not? And does life cover the current os and software or not. So really you are talking about 4-5 years of coverage or less, until the software has its end of life.
Well, we/I pay for a license of the OS which is about USD100 but we get free patches for life until the end of the product life. So in 4-5 years time, I am sure we would have received about 2GB worth of patches + the original price of the software. It is still very cheap, isnt it if you are comparing dollar per byte, 100/3GB?
Microsoft did not ask you to pay everytime you wish to download a patch, neither Microsoft asks you to pay a yearly subscription for the patches.
There are 2 product lines here, one is subscription based product and the other is off-the-shelf product. ----------------
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Morphisat
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:25:00 -
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Quote: Microsoft did not ask you to pay everytime you wish to download a patch, neither Microsoft asks you to pay a yearly subscription for the patches.
Do you honestly think that the price of Windows XP does not include the development of patches and service packs ?
-- http://www.morphisat.tk - Eve Blog
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Dakath
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:35:00 -
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I for one think that game playability > new content.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.05 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/03/2006 22:40:36
Originally by: Morphisat
Quote: Microsoft did not ask you to pay everytime you wish to download a patch, neither Microsoft asks you to pay a yearly subscription for the patches.
Do you honestly think that the price of Windows XP does not include the development of patches and service packs ?
If you are measuring $$$/byte, then no (yes for development, patches are part of their service/sale). Same as CPUs, $$$/transistor, they are still cheaper than CPUs 10 years ago although CPUs 10 years ago cost much lesser than CPUs at present but $$$/transistor, they were more expensive than present. ----------------
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Adjodlo
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Posted - 2006.03.05 23:37:00 -
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Its important that content is rushed out as fast as possible, regardles of its playability. To be honest, I'm surprised that Kali isnt scheduled for release next week.
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Kane Ululani
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Posted - 2006.03.06 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/03/2006 22:46:49
Originally by: Morphisat
Quote: Microsoft did not ask you to pay everytime you wish to download a patch, neither Microsoft asks you to pay a yearly subscription for the patches.
Do you honestly think that the price of Windows XP does not include the development of patches and service packs ?
If you are measuring $$$/byte, then no (patches are part of their service/sale). Same as CPUs, $$$/transistor, they are still cheaper than CPUs 10 years ago although CPUs 10 years ago cost much lesser than CPUs at present but $$$/transistor, they were more expensive than present.
No, It can't, MS fan-thing for the win. The last pseudo-economics was especially amusing. Nor does it understand the concept of monopoly rents.
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.03.06 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Ululani
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/03/2006 22:46:49
Originally by: Morphisat
Quote: Microsoft did not ask you to pay everytime you wish to download a patch, neither Microsoft asks you to pay a yearly subscription for the patches.
Do you honestly think that the price of Windows XP does not include the development of patches and service packs ?
If you are measuring $$$/byte, then no (patches are part of their service/sale). Same as CPUs, $$$/transistor, they are still cheaper than CPUs 10 years ago although CPUs 10 years ago cost much lesser than CPUs at present but $$$/transistor, they were more expensive than present.
No, It can't, MS fan-thing for the win. The last pseudo-economics was especially amusing. Nor does it understand the concept of monopoly rents.
The reason why companies pay a yearly subscription for the support is because where your doing something crazy, like upgrading a major software package of every single computer in the company via SMS 2003 and something goes horribly wrong and you run into a bug, you call up MS and their coders start working on the fix immediately.
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