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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2632
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:36:00 -
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I jump in, and look around. Just one unfriendly in local. I don't see anything in space, so he's probably just docked. I head to an Amarr Small Outpost that is already open, and get to business capturing it. I carefully check d-scan, and the hostile isn't around. A couple of minutes in, though... AN ASTERO POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE, points me, and bam, i'm dead. Then, in local:
"lol gf, i was afk :D"
CCP, this has gone too far. REMOVE AFK CLOAKING NOW! As time goes on it encroaches more and more on a multitude of forms of legitimate game play. Cloaks are absolutely overpowered and there is no counter. So... eoither nerf cloaks or ADD A COUNTER. One of those nifty deployable mods you're having fun coding, like a cyno jammer but a cloak jammer.
Is it really that hard to reward AFK play more than legitimate at-the-keyboard play, and enable people who mostly don't even play the game to reap rewards at no risk? Come on. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Heavypredator Singh
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
0
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:53:00 -
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It takes around 5 seconds before he can target You. In that time You can warp out. You can have stabs. You can kill him. Lots of options. Cloak is not op. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
773
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:56:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I jump in, and look around. Just one unfriendly in local. I don't see anything in space, so he's probably just docked. I head to an Amarr Small Outpost that is already open, and get to business capturing it. I carefully check d-scan, and the hostile isn't around. A couple of minutes in, though... AN ASTERO POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE, points me, and bam, i'm dead. Then, in local:
"lol gf, i was afk :D"
CCP, this has gone too far. REMOVE AFK CLOAKING NOW! As time goes on it encroaches more and more on a multitude of forms of legitimate game play. Cloaks are absolutely overpowered and there is no counter. So... eoither nerf cloaks or ADD A COUNTER. One of those nifty deployable mods you're having fun coding, like a cyno jammer but a cloak jammer.
Is it really that hard to reward AFK play more than legitimate at-the-keyboard play, and enable people who mostly don't even play the game to reap rewards at no risk? Come on.
So, perhaps you should have actually checked to see if he was docked before going to the complex? Kind of your fault for not checking first. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1452
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:59:00 -
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Cloaking modules should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no cloak. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
364
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:49:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I got outplayed, must be something wrong with the game. People who outplay me are not playing legitimately.
Just play better next time. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1221
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Posted - 2013.12.12 06:59:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:so he's probably just docked.
You blame cloaks, not your bad assumption skills for getting killed?
Next! |
Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3056
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:03:00 -
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Yeah, I would think you could build a fit to survive a ishkur just as well as a astero
And like the others above mentioned, the SoE ships dont have any bonus to reduce the locking delay from decloaking, you had time you derp.... The Drake is a Lie |
Mistress Rose
Club Deadspace
37
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:05:00 -
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Ya know what happens when you ASSUME things....it makes an outta you and me. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
679
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:19:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Cloaking modules should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no cloak.
Docking should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no docking. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
679
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:23:00 -
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I was in Highsec a few days ago, doing missions in my CNR when suddenly my heart rate rose, I got sweaty palms and shaky hands. Because suddenly I realized, 20 Tornados an Interceptor and a Falcon could undock anytime and gank me...
Docking is OP, fix afk docking Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations CODE.
2125
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:35:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:CCP, this has gone too far. How dare people engage me in legitimate PvP combat. Oh god. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1208
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:39:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I jump in, and look around. Just one unfriendly in local. I don't see anything in space, so he's probably just docked. I head to an Amarr Small Outpost that is already open, and get to business capturing it. I carefully check d-scan, and the hostile isn't around. A couple of minutes in, though... AN ASTERO POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE, points me, and bam, i'm dead. Then, in local:
"lol gf, i was afk :D"
CCP, this has gone too far. REMOVE AFK CLOAKING NOW! As time goes on it encroaches more and more on a multitude of forms of legitimate game play. Cloaks are absolutely overpowered and there is no counter. So... eoither nerf cloaks or ADD A COUNTER. One of those nifty deployable mods you're having fun coding, like a cyno jammer but a cloak jammer.
Is it really that hard to reward AFK play more than legitimate at-the-keyboard play, and enable people who mostly don't even play the game to reap rewards at no risk? Come on.
There's a whole lotta butthurt here.
"legitimate game play" who made you Judge? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3921
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:41:00 -
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I'd give everyone in CalMil an Astero if that would make them shoot me after decloaking
~Elite PVPer~ and Supreme Commander of the Gallente Militia |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1208
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:41:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Ptraci wrote:Cloaking modules should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no cloak. Docking should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no docking.
I agree, using a Stargate should use fuel also. No Fuel = no Stargate. I'm serious here, once a guy without fuel jumped though a Stargate and killed me. Waaaaay OP!. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2244
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Posted - 2013.12.12 07:45:00 -
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If he was really AFK while he decloaked and pointed you, you should petition him for bot use. |
Jove Death
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
265
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Posted - 2013.12.12 08:07:00 -
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Sounds more like he was cloaked off the gate watching chars come in.
Saw you warp to where you went. Frigate does go fast in warp you know
Then bam your dead
Or he could have been cloaked in the gate you were in and snook up on you and bam your dead. TBH this is afk cloak, hes prob there watchin you from the point you came in.
However
\o/ ban cloaks whilst your there ban falcons and t3's and well ban everything. We can all fly shuttles and give peace and love man... Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
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Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
563
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:35:00 -
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This is the counter to dscan.
You could have docked and checked the station guests beforehand. |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2117
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:38:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I jump in, and look around. Just one unfriendly in local. I don't see anything in space, so he's probably just docked. I head to an Amarr Small Outpost that is already open, and get to business capturing it. I carefully check d-scan, and the hostile isn't around. A couple of minutes in, though... AN ASTERO POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE, points me, and bam, i'm dead. Then, in local:
"lol gf, i was afk :D"
Got this far, and realised I knew your problem.
You believed him.
Clearly, he wasn't afk, or he wouldn't have killed you. Maybe, if you'd fit for pvp, instead of plexing, you would have killed him instead. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Sons Of Saints Circle-Of-Two
563
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:40:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Cloaking modules should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no cloak.
Except he wasn't AFK if he pointed so he could have fueled his cloak and OP would still be complaining. People against cloaking are the same as the anti ECM crowd, they offer "solutions" which are really just increments to their real goal...total removal from the game of cloaks/ECM/whatever bothers them.
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Amber Kurvora
121
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:47:00 -
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"There's a game mechanic I don't like, waaaaaaah!"
Sorry, but it's a legitimate tactic to use. I got ganked the other day by a stealth bomber, the pilot of whom had scanned down the exploration site I was working ahead of time. Did I complain? No, I sat down, sighed a little inwardly, tipped my hat to the fella and got on with things.
You lose ships in Eve to nefarious individuals who use tactics such as that to get kills. Deal with it, and for the love of God, never set foot in wormhole space; your mind will explode with all the cloaking involved. |
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Rin Valador
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
35
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Posted - 2013.12.12 13:48:00 -
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Ha "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2013.12.12 14:11:00 -
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I typed out 4 different responses. Each one would have got me a mean PM from a moderator. So you get this one instead. |
The Intermediary
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.12 16:28:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I jump in, and look around. Just one unfriendly in local. I don't see anything in space, so he's probably just docked. I head to an Amarr Small Outpost that is already open, and get to business capturing it. I carefully check d-scan, and the hostile isn't around. A couple of minutes in, though... AN ASTERO POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE, points me, and bam, i'm dead. Then, in local:
"lol gf, i was afk :D"
CCP, this has gone too far. REMOVE AFK CLOAKING NOW! As time goes on it encroaches more and more on a multitude of forms of legitimate game play. Cloaks are absolutely overpowered and there is no counter. So... eoither nerf cloaks or ADD A COUNTER. One of those nifty deployable mods you're having fun coding, like a cyno jammer but a cloak jammer.
Is it really that hard to reward AFK play more than legitimate at-the-keyboard play, and enable people who mostly don't even play the game to reap rewards at no risk? Come on. IMO your beef isn't as much with the AFK cloakers, as it is with the returning decloakers. If we think about this logically then anyone that's cloaked, AFK or both shouldn't be able to do you any harm*. Unless of course psychological, but that's what the tinfoil hats are for.
Remember, you're not paranoid if they're out to get you. And they are, always, everywhere, so you can expect to lose your stuff. The only safe way to play EVE is to stay docked and spin your ship.
If you still think there's a problem here and you have a an idea that can solve it... -+ Features & Ideas Discussion
-- * There are of course the edge cases of drones being deployed by miners or the like, that then go AFK, but if those pose a threat to you... You're doing it wrong. |
CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
112
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:39:00 -
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He wasn't AFK when he killed you; he was AFK before that, when he did absolutely nothing to you while he was AFK.
AFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFKAFK |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:50:00 -
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I'm a little confused, you're not usually a shiptoaster, yet you toasted this ship. Also, I do not see the kill on your board.
5/10 For getting people to respond with such animosity. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
650
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Posted - 2013.12.12 17:57:00 -
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Whether this is a troll, or a serious post, I am very disappointed in you, Petrus. AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Retribution.
51
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:10:00 -
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ignore all the trolls, they talk nonsense. the fact is this debate has been going on for ages, and what has CCP done? nothing, nothing at all. So there is your answer.
Cloaks be either probable by special probes and skills (like star trek). The more you stay cloaked the more of a aura you omit making it easier to scan. |
MadMuppet
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
932
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:13:00 -
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OP stepped on the EVE equivalent of a landmine. This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3418
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:17:00 -
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I don't the OP or his opponent know what AFK actually means.
If he were AFK, how in the world did he uncloak and shoot you?
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Retribution.
51
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:19:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I don't the OP or his opponent know what AFK actually means. If he were AFK, how in the world did he uncloak and shoot you? Mr Epeen
he WAS afk |
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