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Mrs Epeen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:24:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I don't the OP or his opponent know what AFK actually means. If he were AFK, how in the world did he uncloak and shoot you? Mr Epeen You just saved two seconds by not typing, "think"...
Congratulations, dumbass!
~ Free Speech Advocate ~ |
Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2013.12.12 18:37:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I jump in, and look around. Just one unfriendly in local. I don't see anything in space, so he's probably just docked. I head to an Amarr Small Outpost that is already open, and get to business capturing it. I carefully check d-scan, and the hostile isn't around. A couple of minutes in, though... AN ASTERO POPS UP OUT OF NOWHERE, points me, and bam, i'm dead. Then, in local:
"lol gf, i was afk :D"
CCP, this has gone too far. REMOVE AFK CLOAKING NOW! As time goes on it encroaches more and more on a multitude of forms of legitimate game play. Cloaks are absolutely overpowered and there is no counter. So... eoither nerf cloaks or ADD A COUNTER. One of those nifty deployable mods you're having fun coding, like a cyno jammer but a cloak jammer.
Is it really that hard to reward AFK play more than legitimate at-the-keyboard play, and enable people who mostly don't even play the game to reap rewards at no risk? Come on.
How exactly would this scenario have turned out differently if the pilot of the Astero had not been AFK? What if he had been at the keyboard, cloaked, and just waiting for a target to come into the outpost? The outcome would have been the same, so being AFK has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Unless of course, you were actually the one who was AFK. As others have pointed out , there is a targetting delay after the Astero decloaks; a period of time in which you should have seen him and been able to act (either by running or attacking) before he could respond. So either you were not paying attention (which is neither the fault of your opponent nor the cloaking mechanic), or you were orbiting the button AFK, and came back to find your ship popped (also not the fault of opponent/cloaking).
So let's try again; who or what are you claiming is responsible for this loss? If your answer is anything other than yourself, you have failed. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2632
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Posted - 2013.12.12 19:22:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'm a little confused, you're not usually a shiptoaster, yet you toasted this ship. Also, I do not see the kill on your board.
5/10 For getting people to respond with such animosity. I did sort of flub the landing on taking the classic shiptoast of nullsec AFK cloakers and bringing it into FW. Oh well. At least it gave people something to talk about. Cloaks are actually part of what I deem to be a problem in FW (farmer cloak+WCS epidemic), but that's completely off topic. Oh, and fun fact: I am not in FW.
Kirren D'marr wrote:So let's try again; who or what are you claiming is responsible for this loss? If your answer is anything other than yourself, you have failed.
I blame the goons.
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Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
257
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:37:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:So let's try again; who or what are you claiming is responsible for this loss? If your answer is anything other than yourself, you have failed. I blame the goons. grr.
Ok, I guess I can accept that response.
Blaming "Falcon" might have worked as well; we do have to cover all the usual scapegoats, right? Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2632
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:39:00 -
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Kirren D'marr wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:So let's try again; who or what are you claiming is responsible for this loss? If your answer is anything other than yourself, you have failed. I blame the goons. grr. Ok, I guess I can accept that response. Blaming "Falcon" might have worked as well; we do have to cover all the usual scapegoats, right? Goon AFK cloaking Falcons suicide ganking miners while conducting impersonation, scams, and convincing CCP to nerf everything are the cancer that is killing Eve. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Ronny Hugo
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
28
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Posted - 2013.12.12 22:56:00 -
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I think the cloak and the imminent danger of it makes the game worth it.
And if it wasn't the cloak we complain about, it would be about the dps of ships that killed us today. Chess players speak about the unfair advantage of starting first (having white pieces), but they just live with it. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1453
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:04:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Ptraci wrote:Cloaking modules should use fuel, like say heavy water or something. No fuel = no cloak. Except he wasn't AFK if he pointed so he could have fueled his cloak and OP would still be complaining. People against cloaking are the same as the anti ECM crowd, they offer "solutions" which are really just increments to their real goal...total removal from the game of cloaks/ECM/whatever bothers them.
That's fair enough. I have nothing against the guy who is patient enough to sit cloaked and observe a system all day long. It's the guy who logs in right after downtime and leaves for work that I have trouble with. You know, the guy affecting EvE gameplay while he is not actually playing the game. That's the guy I want to stop. |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
218
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:06:00 -
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This nerf cloaky thread is wearing a speedo while punching me in the face. Subtle. Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3422
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:09:00 -
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Mrs Epeen wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I don't the OP or his opponent know what AFK actually means. If he were AFK, how in the world did he uncloak and shoot you? Mr Epeen You just saved two seconds by not typing, "think"... Congratulations, dumbass!
LOL
I saw that coming.
The Mrs Epeen took me by surprise, though. Well played.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Caelestina
Chill Cabal Catastrophic Uprising
11
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:10:00 -
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Lol.
This is like whining about stealth in WoW or whatever other MMO.
Get over it. |
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
206
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Posted - 2013.12.13 20:16:00 -
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U mad bro? Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
TharOkha
0asis Group
663
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Posted - 2013.12.13 21:31:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: Is it really that hard to reward AFK play more than legitimate.....
wait wait wait wait wait... He was A-F-K and he killed you? Whoa that dude has to be a Jedi or something...
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldnt the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Mrs Epeen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.12.14 02:44:00 -
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Start with:
1) Rocks Glass 2) Ice 3) Dr. Pepper or Coke 4) Southern Comfort
Picture yourself floating through space. Everything is perfectly still, cold and bleak.
Let your mind drift. You feel safe, even warm.
You suddenly realize that you willingly joined a war. A war with two distinct sides and wrought with danger.
Add to that the fact that you are in low sec...
Now tell me, how in the f**k did it not enter your mind that the ONE war target in system wasn't going to come to that flashing beacon attached to your a$$ and do everything in his power to send your lazy (not scanning constantly) tub of flesh to the nearest cloning facility?
~ Free Speech Advocate ~ |
Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
281
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Posted - 2013.12.14 03:42:00 -
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So...are Astero's particularly hard to kill by pvp-fit frigs? Given that the average PLEX farmer gimps his fit with stabs so he can run away and post :P in local till the other side leaves out of boredom, I don't think there's been a very good measure of their abilities so far. |
Arsenic Malin
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
0
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Posted - 2013.12.14 03:48:00 -
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You lose ships in FW. Simple fact. I lost 2 yesterday, and 2 already today. |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
359
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Posted - 2013.12.22 22:40:00 -
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In the game of cat and mouse, be a better mouse or a better cat, this one was a better cat, Op was caught and eaten fairly.
Makes a nice change from people moaning about overpowered mice There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
243
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:14:00 -
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Petrus,
I have to wonder how many more pages of responses we're going to see on this thread. You crack me up. -á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
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