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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.09 22:49:00 -
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Still no crashes, running 2 clients works fine (i have to use wineprefix with 2 different directories but that might be because i run it in virtual desktop mode).
The third client has rather crappy performance but works as well.
The issue with settings not being saved when quitting the game can be circumvented by closing the game with the "x" button in the window title if you are running it in windowed or virtual desktop mode.
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Concordia Discors
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Posted - 2007.12.10 09:02:00 -
[1682]
 Originally by: Veskya
Still no crashes, running 2 clients works fine (i have to use wineprefix with 2 different directories but that might be because i run it in virtual desktop mode).
The third client has rather crappy performance but works as well.
The issue with settings not being saved when quitting the game can be circumvented by closing the game with the "x" button in the window title if you are running it in windowed or virtual desktop mode.
Interesting, out of interest what's your box? Still getting the 50% per jump drop in frames here even with DEBUG=-all 
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Veskya on 10/12/2007 11:43:09
Laptop with
Intel Dual Core 2,33 GHz
2GB Ram
Geforce 7950 GTX
Running Ubuntu 7.10, wine config is pretty much the default settings.
So far this is much better than the cedega junk ^^
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.10 12:20:00 -
[1684]
Interesting. At what point exactly do you disable and re-enable your nic to get the client going in wine-git ? I'll give this a go tonight, the cedega client is pretty much unusable due to random crashing and well wine is better anyways 
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.10 13:41:00 -
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Disable the NIC, start the client and wait till your at the login prompt, enable NIC and login ^^
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ElChupacabra
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:08:00 -
[1686]
Disabling NIC gets me to the login screen, but once I reenable it, and try logging in, it just gets stuck right before it's supposed to show Character Selection screen.
LogServer shows a bunch of BITS exceptions and wine doesn't really complain all that much.
Are you guys running windows clients via wine or the linux client cedega installs and then just using that installation with wine?
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:52:00 -
[1687]
windows client with the premium graphics installed (but disabled after starting the client), if you didnt install the premium content then try that.
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ElChupacabra
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:37:00 -
[1688]
Originally by: Veskya
windows client with the premium graphics installed (but disabled after starting the client), if you didnt install the premium content then try that.
Yup that did it for me, I'm back in business, thanks!
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Dalseta Volitare
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:40:00 -
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Confirmed!
the two bit flips plus a ifconfig eth<whatever> down
open wine
ifconfig eth<whateveR> up
will get ya going.
Classic Graphics work just fine from my testing.
Premium graphics 'work' but it is very glitchty. Ships look ok while docked up. Stations are hit or miss on if they will render or not. Also crashes
My Nag rendered as a bunch of white boxes with some arty's floating in space
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Dalseta Volitare
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:47:00 -
[1690]
Oh and i'm getting 100fps docked
50 fps in space
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ElChupacabra
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:59:00 -
[1691]
Originally by: Dalseta Volitare
Oh and i'm getting 100fps docked
50 fps in space
Tried jumping around? I've got some serious fps issues after a few jumps, down to 4 now, max is about 20-25 in space.
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Dalseta Volitare
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Posted - 2007.12.10 21:07:00 -
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Hmmm just to double check docked up logged out and logged in.
Started 90-100 fps docked up.
undocked 45-50 fps
I jumped around ... 4 or 5 systems. No drop.
I am out in 0.0 right now, might have some affect on things..... i'll run one of my empire guys around.
PS, not using taskset to pin it to a proc either...
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:01:00 -
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I had similar result with the NIC flip, I'll try the premium download too.
In the meantime, instead of flipping your NIC, try renaming your /etc/resolv.conf to /etc/resolv.conf.whatever prior to start, and rename it back when the loginscreen shows. That gave me similar results to the NIC flip but is a lot less drastic 
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Darahk J'olonar
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.11 05:17:00 -
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Wine git 0.9.50 w/ elfe's .diff applied. Using the NIC flip and EvE is rock solid stable. No sound or EvE voice but I don't care because it doesn't crash like the transgaming client. Excellent work Wine hackers! Hope to see the NIC flip fixed as well and all included in mainstream in Wine 0.9.51. Oh I also have a jump of about 20% in framerate as well. Transgaming... you fail at EvE.
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Namaro
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Posted - 2007.12.11 10:00:00 -
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thanks guys!
wine-git & eve is working here too and i got alot less slowdown when i use the mouse than in cedega
i found renaming resolv.conf a faster solution than downing the network, you can log right in and don't have to wait till the client recognizes a timeout (guess the login server ip is hardcoded and doesn't need a nameserver)
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.11 15:18:00 -
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Just moved one of my chars out of empire and had the frame drop issue there too after jumping, no more problems once i entered 0.0.
My guess is that this is related to the concord billboards or faction/concord ships at the gates.
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Trek
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.11 19:48:00 -
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The renaming of resolve.conf piqued my interest and made me find a solution to the splash n' crash.
Using tcpdump I noticed that eve tried to resolve the ip 87.237.39.199 at startup. It is this lookup that causes the client to crash at startup for some reason. If you add the line
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87.237.39.199 localhost
to your /etc/hosts you will be able to start the client normally. Mine still refuses to login, but maybe that is because I don't have the premium patch installed (yet, downloading now).
No idea what the client wants from that IP, probably nothing more than the usual stealing of credit card numbers etc. 
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My other ship is a Reaper
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Darahk J'olonar
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.11 20:34:00 -
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Trek nice find!! I tried the suggested hack to /etc/hosts that you listed, I am running premium, and voila! No NIC flip needed. Just play as usual. NIIIICCEEEE 
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Trek
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.11 20:43:00 -
[1699]
Originally by: Darahk J'olonar
Trek nice find!! I tried the suggested hack to /etc/hosts that you listed, I am running premium, and voila! No NIC flip needed. Just play as usual. NIIIICCEEEE
Just patched to premium (with the new graphics disabled) and it seems to work great for me too
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My other ship is a Reaper
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:28:00 -
[1700]
Edited by: rig0r on 11/12/2007 21:31:36
Nice find Trek, doesn't work for me tho :( Can you show me your complete /etc/hosts file ?
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Veskya on 11/12/2007 21:45:54
EVE trys to resolve "www.eve-online.com" at start up to get some http stuff from there, the domain has several ip addresse so just blocking one address wont work all the time.
You can block www.eve-online.com using the host file and it will work, but you wont be able to access the website then either.
Ideally you would find a way to only block wine from accessing it.
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Trek
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.11 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: rig0r
Edited by: rig0r on 11/12/2007 21:31:36
Nice find Trek, doesn't work for me tho :( Can you show me your complete /etc/hosts file ?
Nothing special in my /etc/hosts
Quote:
trekkie@kossa:~$ cat /etc/hosts
192.168.1.2 kossa.local kossa
127.0.0.1 localhost kossa
127.0.1.1 kossa.local kossa
87.237.39.199 localhost
and some ipv6-stuff isn't even used, just some ancient remains  .
Are you running with the premium patch installed? Where does it crash for you? Are you using the patch by Elfe?
Maybe it tries to look up different hosts depending on your location. You can run
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tcpdump port domain
as root (or sudo) and have a look for yourself when starting Eve. You should see a couple of lookups for www.eve-online.com followed by a reverse lookup for an IP address, in my case it was the one earlier mentioned.
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My other ship is a Reaper
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Trek
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Veskya
Edited by: Veskya on 11/12/2007 21:45:54
EVE trys to resolve "www.eve-online.com" at start up to get some http stuff from there, the domain has several ip addresse so just blocking one address wont work all the time.
You can block www.eve-online.com using the host file and it will work, but you wont be able to access the website then either.
Ideally you would find a way to only block wine from accessing it.
Ah I see! 87.237.39.199 is part of www.eve-online.com but it does not resolve back to www.eve-online.com; perhaps that is what confuses wine. So as you say, to get it to work all the time with the /etc/hosts approach you would make all of www.eve-online.com inaccessible. Not a very good solution... Well at least this might be a bit helpfull for the real wine-experts. I unfortunatly do not have the time to familiarize myself with the wine source code because of work and stuff.
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My other ship is a Reaper
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:15:00 -
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Found it. I am running Apache on my box, so EVE didn't hang on eve-online http access this time but on localhost http access I stopped Apache for now. I think it is safe to say the wine bug is somewhere in the http fetch part, not in the nameresolving part.
Done a few jumps, no FPS drop. I did notice some weird scheduling behaviour tho when running 2 clients. The focused client always runs at full FPS, the unfocused client runs at about half FPS. When you move your mouse over the unfocused client, FPS goes up :P When you stop moving your mouse, it drops again. As this only happens on the unfocused client it's not that much of a problem. Taskset doesn't help in this case.
In comparison to the cedega client:
- FPS is much higher (about 20-40FPS)
- ship icons show properly
- client doesn't get stuck after ctrl-q (my cedega client wouldn't exit properly and leave a black wine screen)
- client doesn't crash randomly
- minimap (f11) still doesn't work
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.11 22:37:00 -
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Ok after doing some more tests it seems there still is a drop in FPS after a session change, I noticed it after jumping or docking in a station.
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Concordia Discors
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Posted - 2007.12.11 23:35:00 -
[1706]
Originally by: rig0r
Ok after doing some more tests it seems there still is a drop in FPS after a session change, I noticed it after jumping or docking in a station.
regedit and poke around the software/wine/Direct3D area for the the offscreenrendering setting, if it's pbuffer set to fbo that fixed the hooge frame drop for me.
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.12 01:02:00 -
[1707]
Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2
Originally by: rig0r
Ok after doing some more tests it seems there still is a drop in FPS after a session change, I noticed it after jumping or docking in a station.
regedit and poke around the software/wine/Direct3D area for the the offscreenrendering setting, if it's pbuffer set to fbo that fixed the hooge frame drop for me.
Did you test this in empire? even with fbo buffer i had the frame drops there.
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Alice Beeblebrox
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.12 01:56:00 -
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in 0.0, I changed systems and then jumped back ... if there is a frame drop, it is probably not more than 10fps (mid 30's to mid 20s for me)
in the cedega client I would consistently get just above 20 frames (sometimes below). with wine, I don't see the fps rate drop below 20.
Also, I did a whois lookup on the IP address and it is owned by CCP, I also noticed that the news pane in character selection is empty. Could it be that this IP address has the news feed?
I tried to open the IP with firefox but it reported that the connection was reset.
Maybe there is a difference between how cedega and wine handle browser engine calls (wine redirects them to firefox) thus causing the problem?
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Dapperdrake
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Posted - 2007.12.12 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2
Originally by: rig0r
Ok after doing (..) or docking in a station.
regedit and poke around the software/wine/Direct3D area for the the offscreenrendering setting, if it's pbuffer set to fbo that fixed the hooge frame drop for me.
hm, could you explain me how to set fbo ? 
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Veskya
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Posted - 2007.12.12 03:36:00 -
[1710]
Originally by: Dapperdrake
Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2
Originally by: rig0r
Ok after doing (..) or docking in a station.
regedit and poke around the software/wine/Direct3D area for the the offscreenrendering setting, if it's pbuffer set to fbo that fixed the hooge frame drop for me.
hm, could you explain me how to set fbo ?
http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys
That should explain it ^^
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