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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1220
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Posted - 2013.12.16 06:20:00 -
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So I take it even more people in the same place isn't the solution. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6954
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Posted - 2013.12.16 06:33:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:So I take it even more people in the same place isn't the solution. It is. Until it isn't. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3808
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:21:00 -
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Whiney article. Nerf incoming to save Jita again. |
Jennai
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:40:00 -
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Onictus wrote:[quote=Beekeeper Bob]No one crashed the node. It was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Now the fact that it crashed at a 1400 local and not the 1700 local that it had been sitting at for the preceding 4 hours...who knows. We actually merged the domi's becauase we weren't bringing them back in, if you died in a battleship get a dictor was actually the order. Battleships were basically sitting over the FU fleets to keep the ceptor swarms away.
We didn't do terribly much for a lot of the fight.
the node broke at 1700 during all the doomsdays, then there was like an hour after that where nothing worked except chat. people who crashed or logged couldn't get back in, people still in couldn't control their ships, modules weren't cycling, etc |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1403
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more. It's easy to point blame when its been streamed live for many to view... Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9052
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Posted - 2013.12.16 07:50:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:baltec1 wrote:Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more. It's easy to point blame when its been streamed live for many to view...
Because everything Boat says is the gospel truth and he never ever jokes or is sarcastic about things. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1403
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:Given a choice between that and losing the entire dread fleet, I can totally understand why the node crash would be preferable. Congrats on finding a "solution" to your situation... Given that capital losses were even I would say that a node crash was not in anyones interest. As fun as it is trying to pin blame on one side or the other the simple fact is that the nodes simply cannot handle the fleets being used in this war. A war the likes of which we have not seen since the attempted headshot of VFK. If you can't win a fight, rely on your Dev Bros... Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6957
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:21:00 -
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Grrr Goons.
Just because we're successful at more than "lol honorable arena frigate brawl in highsec go" doesn't mean we cheat. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5310
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:53:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:baltec1 wrote:Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more. It's easy to point blame when its been streamed live for many to view... Because everything Boat says is the gospel truth and he never ever jokes or is sarcastic about things. I thought boat was afk when it went down?
At least he stopped fcing us bombers and kcolor did it... was he still around and streaming? There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6958
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:54:00 -
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He was coordinating the node crash with CCP Tuxford. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5310
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Posted - 2013.12.16 08:54:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: Dreads can be insured (and so can carriers). By your theory it would be N3/PL as the more likely party to crash the node intentionally since they dropped supers and titans, but you won't see me accusing them of doing so because I don't believe they did.
True, and addendum, I don't think anyone actually intentionally crashed the node. Big fights murder EVE, as has been the mantra since the early days (I seem to remember when HEUG 200 man battles would stall the market everywhere, in the early days). Either way, good luck with your elite honorable internet space fight war! (That, of course, goes for both sides) sadly we are no longer honorable third parties as apparently we're deployed as a coalition one one side and apparently began bluing people ...
so there's that. and we're not elite either, so.. There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6958
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:so there's that. and we're not elite either, so.. We'll be the noobiest alliance to have a majority of its combat pilots dread-capable. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9052
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:13:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:baltec1 wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:baltec1 wrote:Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more. It's easy to point blame when its been streamed live for many to view... Because everything Boat says is the gospel truth and he never ever jokes or is sarcastic about things. I thought boat was afk when it went down? At least he stopped fcing us bombers and kcolor did it... was he still around and streaming?
He went to the airport but left himself slowboating through the fight while still streaming. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5310
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:baltec1 wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:baltec1 wrote:Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more. It's easy to point blame when its been streamed live for many to view... Because everything Boat says is the gospel truth and he never ever jokes or is sarcastic about things. I thought boat was afk when it went down? At least he stopped fcing us bombers and kcolor did it... was he still around and streaming? He went to the airport but left himself slowboating through the fight while still streaming. Oh so that's what happened.
He was very enthusiastic about trying to bomb some fighterbombers when I was waiting to bridge in. There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5310
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Posted - 2013.12.16 09:18:00 -
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Of course that was pretty foolish since the answer is to just use even bigger supercapitals like titans. Clearly the mittani's order of battle makes no sense when pitted against the genius of progodlegend's capital and supercapital (+interceptors) doctrine There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
710
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Posted - 2013.12.16 11:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:baltec1 wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:baltec1 wrote:Funny how we get blamed for for forcing the node down when there are 300 carriers dumping 10 sentries each and seemingly abandoning them to launch yet more. It's easy to point blame when its been streamed live for many to view... Because everything Boat says is the gospel truth and he never ever jokes or is sarcastic about things. I thought boat was afk when it went down? At least he stopped fcing us bombers and kcolor did it... was he still around and streaming?
Yeah he had come back at some around when all the titans came in. |
The Strawman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.12.16 11:40:00 -
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I would like to thank whoever crashed the node, as a logi tasked with keeping cfc domis alive, this was the most boring exciting fight ever
Also after reading the last few pages I dearly regret not having bought stocks in the tin foil industry. |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
147
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Posted - 2013.12.16 12:22:00 -
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Rumtin wrote:I was a little surprised this wasn't already posted. The Mittani recently posted on his news sight a new doctrine involving Dreadnaughts. http://themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-omegafleet-rising-0It is unclear if were going to see any sov transfers or not, but its clear things between the CFC and N3 just got hotter. ~Rumtin
Rage much Mittens? The more I read of this SOTA, the more I was reminded of the film "Downfall"
I look forward to more rage and foam at the mouth vitriol from Adolf Mittler. What a strange angry little man. Don't Panic.
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March rabbit
True Horde
905
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Posted - 2013.12.16 12:22:00 -
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Onictus wrote:David Kir wrote:baltec1 wrote:David Kir wrote:baltec1 wrote: Riddle me this.
If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?
A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now. That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor. Well lets look at this. They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet. Who else has the power to stop them? a) They aren't immune to bombers, you won't break them but you'll stop them from dealing damage. b) Not my issue. That's not my point. My point is that whining about a tactic that overcomes superior numbers is silly, and that is it. All you have to do is come up with a superior tactic, which is what the "train dreads" post is for. As for the supercap superiority: you're the attacking party. Your industrial machine is intact, your carebears can do their thing freely. Build your own, use alliance funds to buy pilots. Problem solved. Also, stop them doing...? Aren't immune to bombers? Have you any idea how many sentry drones fit in the 80,000m3 drone bay on an archon? I'll tell you its 3,200. Likewise at 7 bombs at a time you have NO chance of doing any appreciable to an Archon. Also, supers and super pilots don't grow on trees. what about "warp to 0" with fleet of smart-bomb BSs? Sentry will be dead on launch. carriers can't go anywhere. Even fighters will have bad time.
add here fleet of close range dreadnoughts and you are ok. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9075
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Posted - 2013.12.16 12:33:00 -
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March rabbit wrote: what about "warp to 0" with fleet of smart-bomb BSs? Sentry will be dead on launch. carriers can't go anywhere. Even fighters will have bad time.
add here fleet of close range dreadnoughts and you are ok.
Carriers turn on their own smartbombs and the combined power kills that battleship fleet... Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
507
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Posted - 2013.12.16 12:34:00 -
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Speedkermit Damo wrote: Rage much Mittens? The more I read of this SOTA, the more I was reminded of the film "Downfall"
I look forward to more rage and foam at the mouth vitriol from Adolf Mittler. What a strange angry little man.
I don't think you should judge the success or otherwise of any given doctrine from one half-completed node-crashed battle. Wars like this always come down to attrition, don't they.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9075
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Posted - 2013.12.16 12:40:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Speedkermit Damo wrote: Rage much Mittens? The more I read of this SOTA, the more I was reminded of the film "Downfall"
I look forward to more rage and foam at the mouth vitriol from Adolf Mittler. What a strange angry little man.
I don't think you should judge the success or otherwise of any given doctrine from one half-completed node-crashed battle. Wars like this always come down to attrition, don't they.
We also go through a week to a month of welps at the start of every war too and DBRB gets relegated to frigate/cruiser fleets. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Tina Tin Tits
Perkone Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:00:00 -
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TL;DR of the past 3 pages ...
Goons whining because they just got caught deliberately crashing the game (akin to a DDOS).
Goons whining that it was actually PL/N3's fault because they dared to play the game as intended.
Moar glorious tears about drones.
What we are yet to see
Goons admitting that they have lost control of the narrative at this point and are quickly becoming Morhus Mihi.
Mittani seems to be broken and stuck in a circular arguement with himself about drones. |
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
87
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:35:00 -
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Funny that Slowcats weren't "a broken exploited fleet comp thats only used by cowards" when goons still called them "Das Boot" and had enough people logging in with them to rofl stomp N3 in the north |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9075
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:45:00 -
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Ka'Narlist wrote:Funny that Slowcats weren't "a broken exploited fleet comp thats only used by cowards" when goons still called them "Das Boot" and had enough people logging in with them to rofl stomp N3 in the north
Back then we didn't have 250+ using drone assist. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
March rabbit
True Horde
905
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:45:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:March rabbit wrote: what about "warp to 0" with fleet of smart-bomb BSs? Sentry will be dead on launch. carriers can't go anywhere. Even fighters will have bad time.
add here fleet of close range dreadnoughts and you are ok.
Carriers turn on their own smartbombs and the combined power kills that battleship fleet... is it standard for sentry-cap fleet to have smartbombs onboard? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9075
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:49:00 -
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Tina Tin **** wrote:TL;DR of the past 3 pages ...
Goons whining because they just got caught deliberately crashing the game (akin to a DDOS).
Goons whining that it was actually PL/N3's fault because they dared to play the game as intended.
Moar glorious tears about drones.
What we are yet to see
Goons admitting that they have lost control of the narrative at this point and are quickly becoming Morhus Mihi.
Mittani seems to be broken and stuck in a circular arguement with himself about drones.
Please provide this evidence that shows we are causing the nodes to crash and that its not the fact that there are thousands of drones being deployed, called back, redeployed, abandoned and fresh ones launched by both sides. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9075
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:50:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:baltec1 wrote:March rabbit wrote: what about "warp to 0" with fleet of smart-bomb BSs? Sentry will be dead on launch. carriers can't go anywhere. Even fighters will have bad time.
add here fleet of close range dreadnoughts and you are ok.
Carriers turn on their own smartbombs and the combined power kills that battleship fleet... is it standard for sentry-cap fleet to have smartbombs onboard?
Best way to clear out frigs and fighters and fighter bombers. I would be surprised if they didn't at least have them in the hold to fit. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
710
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Posted - 2013.12.16 14:56:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:baltec1 wrote:March rabbit wrote: what about "warp to 0" with fleet of smart-bomb BSs? Sentry will be dead on launch. carriers can't go anywhere. Even fighters will have bad time.
add here fleet of close range dreadnoughts and you are ok.
Carriers turn on their own smartbombs and the combined power kills that battleship fleet... is it standard for sentry-cap fleet to have smartbombs onboard?
Yes, every combat carrier and/or triage carrier keeps smarties onboard. Remember carriers can just refit in space to react to what is going on on the field.
I think there are 4-5 faction larges in my carrier as we speak.
Not to mention something like 1200 or so sentry IIs.....but no fighters, fighters are the touch of death. |
Troll Bridgington
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2013.12.16 15:11:00 -
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Tina Tin **** wrote:TL;DR of the past 3 pages ...
Goons whining because they just got caught deliberately crashing the game (akin to a DDOS).
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The true power of the z0r chain. Kneel before the destroyer of nodes. |
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