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Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:54:00 -
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I did some math considering both parties have perfect skills and ofc they are all perfect players shooting the target given to them etc etc. Shooting distance is 125 km for faction fitted arti nag shooting faction titanium sabot.
target Avatar class titan: it takes about 1030 arti nags landing the perfect shot on tank fitted avatar (boosted by legion and erebus). If the avatar overloads the hardeners it takes about 1574 arti nags. target Erebus class titan: This is easier to alpha, "only" 845 arti nags and 1285 nagsif the hardeners are overloaded. the other 2 lol who flies shield titans in these fights. Nyx supecarrier: 680 nags will alpha it and 1036 with hardeners overloaded. Aeon supercarrier: 1000 for alpha or 1540 with hardeners overloaded.
I know you have the same thought i have. Np you just melt through with the mighty DPS. Supecarriers usually are fitted with 3 meta cap remote reps and slowcats are fitted with 2 capital remote reps. So N3 yesterday fielded about 200 slowcats, thats 400 remote capital reps. Add 3 remote reps per supercarrier and double the amount of supercarriers for each titan fielded. So an entity that fields lets say 40 titans easilly have at the same time 80 supercarriers(at least). So thats about 240 named reps. So iot break these reps you need: Avatar:580 arti nags or 901 with overloaded hardeners. Erebus:same as avatar. Nyx:same as avatar Aeon:726 or 1125 with overloaded hardeners. A fully tanked nag boosted by erebus and legion and ignoring explosive dmg since ragnaroks wont be shooting them gets 3,2 MIl HP and tanks in overload about 12k. So lets say 20 LR avatars and 20 LR erebus are shooting you with guns you ll be getting around 300k incoming DPS. You propably have about 20 secs to live so i am not so sure about fitting that local rep in the first place. So, concluding for every siege cycle or 5 minutes of fight 15 dreads will be dying from guns. If intel is right and doomsdays go free the number goes even worse. With 40 titans its about 1 doomsday for every 15 secs. But since magically every dread will be doomsday tanked and DPS fitted at the same time (lol) you ll only get 2 dead dreads per minute from those. That makes 17-20 dreads per minute. have fun in those |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
86
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Posted - 2013.12.16 22:47:00 -
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Why are you looking at supers?
the idea of this fleet is to kill Arcons.. which is good and all untill N3/PL drop a bunch of titans and just start DD'ing everything off the field.
the only real way to win these battle is with surperior numbers.. but when you are trying to get numbers to take on the 200+ carriers and 30+titans the node crashes.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda
568
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Posted - 2013.12.16 23:45:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Why are you looking at supers?
the idea of this fleet is to kill Arcons.. which is good and all untill N3/PL drop a bunch of titans and just start DD'ing everything off the field.
the only real way to win these battle is with surperior numbers.. but when you are trying to get numbers to take on the 200+ carriers and 30+titans the node crashes.
Don't get sheer numbers and drop more shinies instead. That can't possibly end badly. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:22:00 -
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Max50 wrote:I did some math considering both parties have perfect skills and ofc they are all perfect players shooting the target given to them etc etc. Shooting distance is 125 km for faction fitted arti nag shooting faction titanium sabot.
target Avatar class titan: it takes about 1030 arti nags landing the perfect shot on tank fitted avatar (boosted by legion and erebus). If the avatar overloads the hardeners it takes about 1574 arti nags. target Erebus class titan: This is easier to alpha, "only" 845 arti nags and 1285 nagsif the hardeners are overloaded. the other 2 lol who flies shield titans in these fights. Nyx supecarrier: 680 nags will alpha it and 1036 with hardeners overloaded. Aeon supercarrier: 1000 for alpha or 1540 with hardeners overloaded.
I know you have the same thought i have. Np you just melt through with the mighty DPS. Supecarriers usually are fitted with 3 meta cap remote reps and slowcats are fitted with 2 capital remote reps. So N3 yesterday fielded about 200 slowcats, thats 400 remote capital reps. Add 3 remote reps per supercarrier and double the amount of supercarriers for each titan fielded. So an entity that fields lets say 40 titans easilly have at the same time 80 supercarriers(at least). So thats about 240 named reps. So iot break these reps you need: Avatar:580 arti nags or 901 with overloaded hardeners. Erebus:same as avatar. Nyx:same as avatar Aeon:726 or 1125 with overloaded hardeners. A fully tanked nag boosted by erebus and legion and ignoring explosive dmg since ragnaroks wont be shooting them gets 3,2 MIl HP and tanks in overload about 12k. So lets say 20 LR avatars and 20 LR erebus are shooting you with guns you ll be getting around 300k incoming DPS. You propably have about 20 secs to live so i am not so sure about fitting that local rep in the first place. So, concluding for every siege cycle or 5 minutes of fight 15 dreads will be dying from guns. If intel is right and doomsdays go free the number goes even worse. With 40 titans its about 1 doomsday for every 15 secs. But since magically every dread will be doomsday tanked and DPS fitted at the same time (lol) you ll only get 2 dead dreads per minute from those. That makes 17-20 dreads per minute. have fun in those
There is no hope. We don't stand a chance!! :negative: |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:24:00 -
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Ok Mad50 you already ruined our Omega Fleet dream. Although im hesitant to trust a greek with math (especially if its adding up debt lol) can you tell me how many bombers we need to alpha an avatar? tia |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
141
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Posted - 2013.12.17 02:39:00 -
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Like a zillion bombs! That is a good enough number. |
Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 06:45:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Why are you looking at supers?
the idea of this fleet is to kill Arcons.. which is good and all untill N3/PL drop a bunch of titans and just start DD'ing everything off the field.
the only real way to win these battle is with surperior numbers.. but when you are trying to get numbers to take on the 200+ carriers and 30+titans the node crashes.
For every 40-50 dreads you kill 4 archons per minute. So with a 200 nag fleet you start by killing 16 per minute ( losing 17). 2nd minute of siege cycle you still kill 16 ( and still losing 17) and you are now down to160ish dreads.3rd minute of siege time you keep killing 16 mer minute while still losing 17 and now you practically have only 3 wings shooting wich means that in 4th minute of siege you kill only 12 per minute while still losing 17.
And you will kill those archons only if you have a great split target caling in your fleet (1 per wing). And you can maintain this rythm only if during the shooting and while dreads die left and right, fleet members change squads-wings and fill up the correct spots of dead dreads so you keep full wings. You may want to split guns ofc while shooting stuff and for every 200 dreads have 2 target callers wich means shooting 2 archons at the same time. It will be easier to manage but you will be killing only 8 archons per minute. For 1 siege cycle you will kill 40 archons but you will lose 85 dreads. All this ofc is theory crafting and requires perfect skills, perfect shots, people actually shooting when they are told and practise already shows that it works worse in an actual fight.
Are you sure you want to go for a second siege cycle?
I am not a spy or anything, but my guess is N3 and rest are baiting you with a few carrier kills so you put more and more dreads in. Up to now you get really really lucky with nodes crashing and saving the bulk of your dread fleets. In theory these dread fleets are pretty much a tornado fleet. Tornado fleets work great, but you need someone actually fighting the red dots down the grid for you so you can lay back and pew pew from distance.
How about you drop your own supers and the dreads too? |
Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 07:02:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Ok Mad50 you already ruined our Omega Fleet dream. Although im hesitant to trust a greek with math (especially if its adding up debt lol) can you tell me how many bombers we need to alpha an avatar? tia
With perfect skills you need 6723 explosive bombs. Fire 7 per bomb squad and you ll need only 960 bomb runs. One bomb run per 10 secs and it will take you about 2 hours and 40 minutes.
Greek math is great tbh. We know exactly how much we own dont we? |
Justin Cody
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
62
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Posted - 2013.12.17 11:21:00 -
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my vote is to use cruise missile phoenix and sit out even farther (180K) and be doing vollies about 50% higher...instead of 60K doing 90K. yeah it takes an age to fly that far but...still!
I love my phoenix!
/can also fly 2 other races of dreadnought because taking advantage of FOTM CCP ship reballancing is the only way to play. |
Justin Cody
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
62
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Posted - 2013.12.17 11:22:00 -
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Stop speed tanking my torps you damned carrier pilots! |
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Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
34
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Posted - 2013.12.17 12:32:00 -
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Justin Cody wrote:my vote is to use cruise missile phoenix and sit out even farther (180K) and be doing vollies about 50% higher...instead of 60K doing 90K. yeah it takes an age to fly that far but...still!
I love my phoenix!
/can also fly 2 other races of dreadnought because taking advantage of FOTM CCP ship reballancing is the only way to play.
How about bastion mode Golems? Can shoot from 240 can hit at 235 and tanks sanctums like a beast too. That will show them. |
Gary Bell
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.17 12:45:00 -
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I see a few holes..
1- Titan Dps at that range is terrible just like a dread.. So your numbers.. Wrong.. 2- Tidi makes a DD on a Titan near useless after the first shot.. So again numbers.. Wrong 3- Titan Pilots are stupid.. IE wasting like 4 DD's per FC... 4- Dreads can reposition every five minutes.. Causing range issues for titans 5- We can volley carriers.. SO the choice comes down to crash the node or not when the carrier numbers start to drop off and you have 40 titans with sub par reps on grid.. Oh they can drop supers.. Correct.. But then the node ***** and they don't get to kill all the dreads..
Last- The big fight we had where the titans came in? Was the first day CFC announced the deployment of this fleet.. SO imagine how fun it will be in a week or two or even a month?
Oh and for the record.. We may have lost a crap load of dreads.. But we actually were killing the stupid carrier ball.. So it was still a victory as far as we are concerned.. Cuz so far we haven't been able to do **** to the "elite" pvp skills.. |
Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:33:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:I see a few holes..
1- Titan Dps at that range is terrible just like a dread.. So your numbers.. Wrong.. 2- Tidi makes a DD on a Titan near useless after the first shot.. So again numbers.. Wrong 3- Titan Pilots are stupid.. IE wasting like 4 DD's per FC... 4- Dreads can reposition every five minutes.. Causing range issues for titans 5- We can volley carriers.. SO the choice comes down to crash the node or not when the carrier numbers start to drop off and you have 40 titans with sub par reps on grid.. Oh they can drop supers.. Correct.. But then the node ***** and they don't get to kill all the dreads..
Last- The big fight we had where the titans came in? Was the first day CFC announced the deployment of this fleet.. SO imagine how fun it will be in a week or two or even a month?
Oh and for the record.. We may have lost a crap load of dreads.. But we actually were killing the stupid carrier ball.. So it was still a victory as far as we are concerned.. Cuz so far we haven't been able to do **** to the "elite" pvp skills..
You confuse me The compined titan DPS is "******" and Titan pilots are "stupid", dreads can reposition every 5 minutes causing "range" issues to titans ( but not to the dreads lol) So let me think of it for a bit: You lost more ships than the ones you were shooting, the ships you lost were more expensive that what they lost, while having support superiority, number superiority, capital superiority against "stupid" players. But you didnt lost, you won. Your logic is solid. About that CFC nag fleet...i thought they are to field their own 500+ slowcats fleet. Omega will come before or after that slowcat fleet? P.S: you are right though, all dreads didnt died because of that dead node. They are dying as they log in |
Gixxer 1000
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:34:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:I see a few holes..
1- Titan Dps at that range is terrible just like a dread.. So your numbers.. Wrong.. 2- Tidi makes a DD on a Titan near useless after the first shot.. So again numbers.. Wrong 3- Titan Pilots are stupid.. IE wasting like 4 DD's per FC... 4- Dreads can reposition every five minutes.. Causing range issues for titans 5- We can volley carriers.. SO the choice comes down to crash the node or not when the carrier numbers start to drop off and you have 40 titans with sub par reps on grid.. Oh they can drop supers.. Correct.. But then the node ***** and they don't get to kill all the dreads..
Last- The big fight we had where the titans came in? Was the first day CFC announced the deployment of this fleet.. SO imagine how fun it will be in a week or two or even a month?
Oh and for the record.. We may have lost a crap load of dreads.. But we actually were killing the stupid carrier ball.. So it was still a victory as far as we are concerned.. Cuz so far we haven't been able to do **** to the "elite" pvp skills..
You make such a cute and adorable pet. You already come across as a CFC member. Yep, truly adorable!!!
Please, post more, we can almost hear the tears in your words. |
Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:50:00 -
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I also learn today that 40 titans doing "only" 100k DPS with guns cant kill 1 Nag every 25 secs. Its also very hard to coordinate 40 titans pilots to doomsday the primaried dread by their name order in wing every 15 secs keeping this way more than enough ready n case of a counter they will know the moment the enemy FC decides it. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
934
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Posted - 2013.12.17 13:58:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Why are you looking at supers?
the idea of this fleet is to kill Arcons.. which is good and all untill N3/PL drop a bunch of titans and just start DD'ing everything off the field.
the only real way to win these battle is with surperior numbers.. but when you are trying to get numbers to take on the 200+ carriers and 30+titans the node crashes.
If at least eve had tactical targets fragile and valuable enough to be attacked while the enemy porcupine thmselves in a ball of RR carriers.. then you could just attack somewhere else at same time.
But nooo. everythign must be done with a trillion HP in this game "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Gary Bell
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:25:00 -
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Thats the thing though old max buddy.. They literally NEVER had any kind of support superiority.. They were spamming in balls of interceptors because everything bigger got slaughtered by our subcap support on field.. So while they sat there.. WE were working are way one by one threw there carriers.. Granted alot of dreads died.. Cuz DD Splat go boom..
But
For the first time sense they started this war they were in trouble.. and there only way out was to jump in every titan they could get online..
So yes a **** load of us died.. I get DD twice lol.. but we managed to put the elite ball of pvp carriers in a position where they had only one out..
Mind you again one day after CFC made the official Nag thing a thing.. The average line CFC may be a derp but.. There are lots of them and those dread numbers will push ours up higher and higher.. There was what 50 or 60 CFC dreads there thats it.. Wait till its 200 plus ours..
Just a thought man.. We arent winning I agree but we are chipping at the door and making more headway then we were a week or two ago..
And i mean honestly why would they drop 500 carriers.. Thats just dumb the node would poop its pants.. Esp when n3 dropped there 500 carriers lol
Anywho we will see what happens.. Maybe ccp will all the sudden remove the tank resist bonus to archons lol wouldent that cause some drama and tears lol..
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Gary Bell
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:28:00 -
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[/quote]You make such a cute and adorable pet. You already come across as a CFC member. Yep, truly adorable!!!
Please, post more, we can almost hear the tears in your words. [/quote]
I mean honestly ... LOL NC. is literally PL you guys like sit in a circle all day long tugging on each other lol
And for the record I now have 2 days left on insurance I was looking to get killed but a cracka cant catch a DD or 3? |
Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
39
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:58:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:Thats the thing though old max buddy.. They literally NEVER had any kind of support superiority.. They were spamming in balls of interceptors because everything bigger got slaughtered by our subcap support on field.. So while they sat there.. WE were working are way one by one threw there carriers.. Granted alot of dreads died.. Cuz DD Splat go boom..
But
For the first time sense they started this war they were in trouble.. and there only way out was to jump in every titan they could get online..
So yes a **** load of us died.. I get DD twice lol.. but we managed to put the elite ball of pvp carriers in a position where they had only one out..
Mind you again one day after CFC made the official Nag thing a thing.. The average line CFC may be a derp but.. There are lots of them and those dread numbers will push ours up higher and higher.. There was what 50 or 60 CFC dreads there thats it.. Wait till its 200 plus ours..
Just a thought man.. We arent winning I agree but we are chipping at the door and making more headway then we were a week or two ago..
And i mean honestly why would they drop 500 carriers.. Thats just dumb the node would poop its pants.. Esp when n3 dropped there 500 carriers lol
Anywho we will see what happens.. Maybe ccp will all the sudden remove the tank resist bonus to archons lol wouldent that cause some drama and tears lol..
The problem slow cats always had is what to do against doomsdays. Sniper dreads WITH doomsdays by your side's titans is the solution. Now the rus, given the oppurtunity have shown they ll drop theirs because they are game. CFC? They had numeroys schanses in the past to actually do it when everything was going their way. They didnt and they wont. There is a good reason they keep their supers 6-7 jumps away. None of them wants a second Asakai.
So yeah, goons talk alot. But they wont come, just as they didnt fielded carriers unless camping you silly in some station
P.S: goons caring about a node crash, dude, thats how they play in the first place |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
955
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:08:00 -
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Max50 wrote:I did some math considering both parties have perfect skills and ofc they are all perfect players shooting the target given to them etc etc. Shooting distance is 125 km for faction fitted arti nag shooting faction titanium sabot.
target Avatar class titan: it takes about 1030 arti nags landing the perfect shot on tank fitted avatar (boosted by legion and erebus). If the avatar overloads the hardeners it takes about 1574 arti nags. target Erebus class titan: This is easier to alpha, "only" 845 arti nags and 1285 nagsif the hardeners are overloaded. the other 2 lol who flies shield titans in these fights. Nyx supecarrier: 680 nags will alpha it and 1036 with hardeners overloaded. Aeon supercarrier: 1000 for alpha or 1540 with hardeners overloaded.
I know you have the same thought i have. Np you just melt through with the mighty DPS. Supecarriers usually are fitted with 3 meta cap remote reps and slowcats are fitted with 2 capital remote reps. So N3 yesterday fielded about 200 slowcats, thats 400 remote capital reps. Add 3 remote reps per supercarrier and double the amount of supercarriers for each titan fielded. So an entity that fields lets say 40 titans easilly have at the same time 80 supercarriers(at least). So thats about 240 named reps. So iot break these reps you need: Avatar:580 arti nags or 901 with overloaded hardeners. Erebus:same as avatar. Nyx:same as avatar Aeon:726 or 1125 with overloaded hardeners. A fully tanked nag boosted by erebus and legion and ignoring explosive dmg since ragnaroks wont be shooting them gets 3,2 MIl HP and tanks in overload about 12k. So lets say 20 LR avatars and 20 LR erebus are shooting you with guns you ll be getting around 300k incoming DPS. You propably have about 20 secs to live so i am not so sure about fitting that local rep in the first place. So, concluding for every siege cycle or 5 minutes of fight 15 dreads will be dying from guns. If intel is right and doomsdays go free the number goes even worse. With 40 titans its about 1 doomsday for every 15 secs. But since magically every dread will be doomsday tanked and DPS fitted at the same time (lol) you ll only get 2 dead dreads per minute from those. That makes 17-20 dreads per minute. have fun in those
same "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
86
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:34:00 -
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Even tho the Stainwagon and CFC forces lost the battle, it was still a moral victory for alot of people.. as it showed that they were able to hurt the carrier blob.
As Gary Bell pointed out this was a first go with the new doctrine.. it was never going to be a perfect attempt but they made a didnt and was going well untill N3 dropped half of their avalible titans on the field.
So they now know they can hurt the carriers.. they just ened to work on something to counter the titans.. (ofcouse this is gonig to be very hard to do without the node crashing at that point)
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Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
39
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:26:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Garandras wrote:Why are you looking at supers?
the idea of this fleet is to kill Arcons.. which is good and all untill N3/PL drop a bunch of titans and just start DD'ing everything off the field.
the only real way to win these battle is with surperior numbers.. but when you are trying to get numbers to take on the 200+ carriers and 30+titans the node crashes.
If at least eve had tactical targets fragile and valuable enough to be attacked while the enemy porcupine thmselves in a ball of RR carriers.. then you could just attack somewhere else at same time. But nooo. everythign must be done with a trillion HP in this game
If "everything" means fighting 300-400 vs 1000+ then i guess you need a trillion HP.
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Max50
Parental Control Triumvirate.
39
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:37:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Even tho the Stainwagon and CFC forces lost the battle, it was still a moral victory for alot of people.. as it showed that they were able to hurt the carrier blob.
As Gary Bell pointed out this was a first go with the new doctrine.. it was never going to be a perfect attempt but they made a didnt and was going well untill N3 dropped half of their avalible titans on the field.
So they now know they can hurt the carriers.. they just ened to work on something to counter the titans.. (ofcouse this is gonig to be very hard to do without the node crashing at that point)
Actually it was the second time and both times had the same result. Carriers died and even more dreads died because of the typical counter to the sniping dreads.
If you dont want to drop your own supers on them, then just play the role playing game longer than they do. They ll get bored eventually
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Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:21:00 -
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Mad50 sometimes i wonder why you with your strategic genius don't control all of 0.0.
I mean just tone down the whining and crying just a tiiiiny little bit and i think we finally have the leader that will bring the goons down!
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Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1189
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:53:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Mad50 sometimes i wonder why you with your strategic genius don't control all of 0.0.
You have to give him a little credit though, he's been TRIing so hard since the whole getting-completely-owned-by-goons thing a few years ago. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
mrSebastian
Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
11
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Posted - 2013.12.18 13:07:00 -
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I find it pathetic that even though the CFC controls about ~30 thousand characters(give or take a new thousand) and 3/4th of EVE territory(adding Pets) you dare to point your little arrogant fingers towards us for fielding our supers and Titans to defend ourselves from these overwhelming numbers?
In your little heads, what should we just do then? Knee and kiss your ring? Of course we can not hold back such a blob with mere subs-caps.
Then Mittens like a spoilt brat who can not have it all, posts a crying thread on TMC complaining about the Archons. I would answer the thread there if i wasn't banned for calling bullshit on earlier propaganda posts he(+co) has written.
To Gary Bell i say that it is a shame BL are not flying with us anymore. We did a great job in Tribute together holding back the CFC blob. It makes me sad to see you on the other side of the fence a mere shadow of your former selves now begging for scraps from SOLAR and CFC.
Seb
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Gary Bell
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
82
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:27:00 -
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I wasent in BL then.. One.. and two you guys went all turbo epeen look at us we leet cuz we drop carriers on everything and it got a little old..
Plus I mean PL has there Man parts in your but 24-7 so.. That hole revenant thing.. You guys are so far crammed into each other hard to tell where one stops and the other starts
So umm.. yeah no
PS.. Falcon |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:36:00 -
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mrSebastian wrote: We did a great job in Tribute together holding back the CFC blob. It makes me sad to see you on the other side of the fence a mere shadow of your former selves now begging for scraps from SOLAR and CFC.
Seb
Yeah what a great job!! Way to show how to hold the CFC back lol.
Congratulations on keeping tribute btw.
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mrSebastian
Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
11
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:33:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:I wasent in BL then.. One.. and two you guys went all turbo epeen look at us we leet cuz we drop carriers on everything and it got a little old..
Plus I mean PL has there Man parts in your but 24-7 so.. That hole revenant thing.. You guys are so far crammed into each other hard to tell where one stops and the other starts
So umm.. yeah no
PS.. Falcon
I see. You were not in BL then but you know that we dropped carriers on everything. In Tribute we used mostly sub caps actually and when needed then yes, caps. That's why they are there for.
The whole Falcon incident is ridiculous and not worth a mention.
It is very hypocritical of you to say that we are the ones crammed up in each others parts when we are not the ones that 1) took money from the Goons, 2) accept a "gift" from SOLAR.
That makes you undeniably their pets.
On the contrary to yours, our relationship with PL is not one of charity and handouts.
Oh dear, Tribute was lost. We held it long enough to make you guys bleed for every little system you gained by blobbing us. There you truly showed us that we can not win a war with you by mere subcaps, we just do not have the numbers. This time is different.
Seb |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2013.12.18 20:30:00 -
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~~~this time is different~~~ |
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