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Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:23:00 -
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I hope you all get insta-popped by spider drones. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
480
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:50:00 -
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SPUNKMUNKY wrote:Lets stay on topic on how this is a tears thread on how you guys lost your dread.
If it wasn't for the dread magically popping to scare us. We had multiple cynos and interdictors in bound. Needless to say goons could have been down a titan easily.
CCP ruins another super kill. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Itinerant Empire
220
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:00:00 -
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NERF WHATEVER THIS IS!
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TurboX3
V0LTA Triumvirate.
42
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:10:00 -
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So many Goon tears, you out blobbed and still lost! Lolz = fail Goons |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7900
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:14:00 -
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SPUNKMUNKY wrote:Lets stay on topic on how this is a tears thread on how you guys lost your dread. So what made you decide to come into this thread and start posting this drivel? Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
773
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:38:00 -
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So let me get this straight, someone shows direct evidence of a situation more nutty than squirrel **** in peanutbutter icecream and the lot of you are busy whining about how it shouldnt be reimbursed because reasons and Goons
Right.
I do agree this is now worth looking into as once could be a screwball read memory address as damage, twice means something in code.
And it better not be a dont refit in combat answer. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7901
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:42:00 -
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The last time it was a "don't refit in combat" answer.
Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
zerquse
Aliastra Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:58:00 -
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Its the new Flavor of the month. Wasps are op now. |
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Itinerant Empire
221
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:00:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:So let me get this straight, someone shows direct evidence of a situation more nutty than squirrel **** in peanutbutter icecream and the lot of you are busy whining about how it shouldnt be reimbursed because reasons and Goons
Right.
Confirming that when someone whines constantly about a mechanic that works against them it is entirely without precedent for the good people of EVE Online Internet Spaceship game to troll them to keep the tears coming.
This has never happened before, YOU PEOPLE SHOULF BE ASHAMED. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7901
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:04:00 -
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Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:So let me get this straight, someone shows direct evidence of a situation more nutty than squirrel **** in peanutbutter icecream and the lot of you are busy whining about how it shouldnt be reimbursed because reasons and Goons
Right. Confirming that when someone whines constantly about a mechanic that works against them This thread is about a bug. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Itinerant Empire
221
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:07:00 -
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Grrr |
Bel Tika
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's Not.Safe.For.Work.
189
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:19:00 -
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so should i train for wasp 2? |
Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:31:00 -
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Another creative use of game mechanics. There is a counter for everything in this game. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7904
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:31:00 -
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Bel Tika wrote:so should i train for wasp 2? In the last thread it was Curator IIs. It doesn't seem to be specific to any drone.
Nerf Burger wrote:Another creative use of game mechanics. There is a counter for everything in this game. You obviously didn't read the thread. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
458
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:47:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Nerf Burger wrote:Another creative use of game mechanics. There is a counter for everything in this game. You obviously didn't read the thread.
Have to agree with James, Did you even bother to read before you just vomited that up with your keyboard? Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour.
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Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
192
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:29:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:SPUNKMUNKY wrote:Lets stay on topic on how this is a tears thread on how you guys lost your dread. So what made you decide to come into this thread and start posting this drivel?
You know, it kind of surprised me that a 4S guy was acting like he has been. I've been aware of the corp for a long time, and have some minor ties going waaaay back, (like MM, even Xanadu back) and always kind of respected the group. But I guess when you join goons, you can't be too surprised when some off the goon wears off on you. Shame.
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Azbogah
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
7
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Posted - 2013.12.29 03:20:00 -
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Batelle wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Saltire wrote:Novice coder here. Do you think the negative damage values are allowed because whoever wrote the code that controls drones/damage calculator used a regular integer instead of an unsigned int? I can only hack the Gibson in 13 parsecs No, because a long int (same data type they use for Dscan distance) allows values from -2147483648 to 2147483647. The issue here isn't integer overflow. I don't think we can reasonably rule this out as the cause based on the size of the hit. It could very well be an overflow that happens earlier in the calculation.
More than likely they used a 16-bit short/word not a integer. A signed word would overflow above 32,768. This could mean CCP at some point changed some code that made it never expect more than 32.7k in volley damage from a drone. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7913
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Posted - 2013.12.29 03:33:00 -
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No offense but this discussion is nothing more than speculation. We really have no idea what data types they use for damage, and the problem could have absolutely nothing to do with overflow. Even if it did, there's no telling here what actually caused the overflow to begin with.
And even if they use short ints, some of the damage displayed is less than the maximum value allowed by this data type yet is still way more than is possible for a drone. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
16
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Posted - 2013.12.29 04:03:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Logan Revelore wrote:Saltire wrote:Novice coder here. Do you think the negative damage values are allowed because whoever wrote the code that controls drones/damage calculator used a regular integer instead of an unsigned int? I can only hack the Gibson in 13 parsecs It seems they forgot to add a sanity check in some of the damage code. Sanity checks can cover and patch a lot of bad code, but in ideal circumstances you shouldn't need them, but in this case it would be pretty simple to just add a sanity check, and if it's detected that a "Wasp II" shouldn't do -11000 damage or 20000 damage for that matter, then recalculate the damage. But yes, not using unsigned in this part of the code would, imo, be bad coding. But that's not necessarily what's going on here. It could also be a memory bug, simply fetching the damage from the wrong memAddress, again, a sanity check would solve such a problem. Trolls aside, as others have said, this is an important bug that needs to be addressed. I'd say it's a rank B bug. Let's not rule out that a pointer to a variable got nuked and when assigned out of the tail end came up long int by default. Raise your hands if you ever got impaled on your own pointer math in a program. o/
Raises both hands |
Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
16
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Posted - 2013.12.29 04:05:00 -
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Magna Mortem wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:I believe you. People are don't even get that they don't get you. I wouldn't be inclined to believe him except for two things. First of all, this isn't the first person to complain about this exact bug. Second of all, the previous person who complained about this had a video showing their ship (I believe it was an Archon) from a third-person perspective losing structure at a slow but steady pace, but then instantly exploding at about 50%. No titans were on field or on that killmail. I'll have to find that thread. I just reread my post and I have no idea what I was typing...
It's ok, you just had a few spare words you decided to get rid of. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
322
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Posted - 2013.12.29 04:08:00 -
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Thread locked.
OP, if you really feel it is an exploit, please file a petition or a bug report. If you post about it here in the forums that is not going to get you anything other than grief, which is the opposite of what you want, for other forum critters will merely point and laugh, and if it is truly an exploit/hack/etc then you are in violation of forum rules. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
3229
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:42:00 -
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This appears to be some sort of bug. It will be investigated properly. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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