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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:40:00 -
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Gradient to leave Electus Matari
Republic Security Services Assembly Plant, Kulheim, Pator, Minmatar Republic; 116.01.05
This is to confirm the rumors that Gradient corporation has announced to alliance Electus Matari the corporation's intent to leave the alliance for the time being. The split is to happen in about two weeks, practicalities allowing.
We leave in good relations and it is not out of the question that we will return in foreseeable future. The reasons for leaving relate to Gradient's internal issues and development of the corporation. During its history, Gradient has been in and out of alliances, coalitions, and Militias as we have seen best benefits us as servants of the Minmatar Republic. This split is simply an additional step on that path of tradition.
Upon leaving the alliance, Gradient will adopt Electus Matari's current red list, which can be found here, without further notice. We will renegotiate all blues, a process which will take several weeks. As we are NRDS, this should not cause significant problems for any current blues. We encourage allies to contact us about standings if more haste is necessary for example for business or to avoid friendly fire.
Gradient is one of the oldest independent capsuleer corporations still operating in space. We are oath-sworn to the service of the Minmatar Republic. Electus Matari is an alliance in service of the Minmatar Republic.
For more information: Elsebeth Rhiannon, Gradient, Director / Diplomat Debes Sparre, Gradient, XO Challis Drant, Gradient, CEO Public channel "Gradient" Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:46:00 -
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Best of luck.
-Eran |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.05 20:48:00 -
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Thank you Eran. The offer stands.
Else Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Dame Death
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.05 21:26:00 -
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This Is just to say I apologise for opening my thread on this issue.
I may have been right on the main topic in the end but it was wrong of me to speculate and comment publicly on a GRD and EM issue.
Eliza GÇ£Dame DeathGÇ¥ Marika |
N'maro Makari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:06:00 -
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A truly saddening turn of events, nevertheless on behalf of SYNE I wish GRD a bright future.
On a second note, SYNE will retain it's current diplomatic status with EM, and we would warmly welcome opening of diplomatic contact with GRD, regardless of whether they join/form a new alliance. N'maro Makari Executive Officer The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.05 22:14:00 -
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Gradient does not at this point intend to join an alliance.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Diplomat Gradient Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Vinh Trahn
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
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Posted - 2014.01.06 11:08:00 -
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A difficult choice at times to leave and venture further on your own. The services of 7SSAR have been available to Gradient while in EM and will remain available to Gradient when they leave the alliance, as will the blue standings currently active with EM.
I wish Gradient and all it's members all the best.
Spirits guide.
Fear not this night. You will not go astray. Though shadows fall still the stars find their way. |
Ayallah
Sniggwaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2014.01.06 15:23:00 -
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Are Gradient's manufacturing services to be temporarily suspended during the transition? Is there to be a delay on order delivery or increase in costs?
Apologies but the original announcement did not contain any information on Gradient's services. -áFear The Tribes |
Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:22:00 -
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Gradient production should be unaffected by the change. GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |
Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.06 16:28:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:Are Gradient's manufacturing services to be temporarily suspended during the transition? Is there to be a delay on order delivery or increase in costs?
Apologies but the original announcement did not contain any information on Gradient's services.
There will be no suspension of manufacturing services or delivery, nor will there be an increase in cost.
If anything, look for an increase in industrial capacity in the coming months. |
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Lyn Farel
Kitzless
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Posted - 2014.01.06 19:29:00 -
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My best wishes to Gradient and EM in their continuous work for NRDS enforcement in Minmatar space. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.07 10:57:00 -
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All Gradient operations continue normally.
We are currently prioritizing the transfer of red settings so that we will have stuff to shoot at upon leaving. Blue standings will be transferred after and we will send an explicit contact to each blue when this happens. I encourage current blues of EM to inform me directly via evemail if corporation-specific blue standing has been set, so that any periods of non-mutual blue standings can be minimized. This is especially helpful if you wish to have ally pricing in the Gradient shop, or if your pilots regularly fly with any sort of criminal flags.
Elsebeth Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:58:00 -
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Will Gradient continue to follow the current EM policy regarding the status of Shakor and the tribal council? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:13:00 -
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I am not certain which policy you have in mind here, Admiral Blake. Gradient has always been and will remain loyal to the Minmatar Republic. We are not, as a corporation, supporters or loyal to any individual leader beyond the loyalty that his/her position requires.
If this does not answer your question, I ask you kindly to rephrase it.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Diplomat Gradient Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2014.01.11 00:21:00 -
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Best of luck to a corporation which has done amazing things in the Minmatar community. Fly free, pilots of Gradient. I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.
Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1643
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Posted - 2014.01.13 18:54:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:I am not certain which policy you have in mind here, Admiral Blake.
This one
Is it still Gradient policy? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.13 19:17:00 -
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Can you explain why this policy is a thing for you, Rodjy?
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Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.13 21:05:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:I am not certain which policy you have in mind here, Admiral Blake. This oneIs it still Gradient policy?
Gradient will continue to support the rule of the Tribal Council; it will continue to respect the guidance of the Sanmatar; it will continue to implement the laws of the Republic Parliament.
Our loyalties have not changed. |
Rana Ash
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.14 12:27:00 -
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Del Vikus wrote:
Gradient will continue to support the rule of the Tribal Council; it will continue to respect the guidance of the Sanmatar; it will continue to implement the laws of the Republic Parliament.
Our loyalties have not changed.
Except maby when it comes to Quafe, there our loyalty is not so strong..
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Ava Starfire
Stormcrows
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Posted - 2014.01.14 14:02:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Can you explain why this policy is a thing for you, Rodjy?
He probably wants to know if they'll keep killing PIE.
My guess? Yeah. "There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.14 15:47:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Anslo wrote:Can you explain why this policy is a thing for you, Rodjy? He probably wants to know if they'll keep killing PIE. My guess? Yeah. Oh no I can see why he'd think EM would suddenly go pro-Amarr and hold a delightful garden party for Holders with tea and ******* crumpets.
Yeah. I can see exactly how he thought it'd happen.
Exactly.
Yep.
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Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:55:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ava Starfire wrote:Anslo wrote:Can you explain why this policy is a thing for you, Rodjy? He probably wants to know if they'll keep killing PIE. My guess? Yeah. Oh no I can see why he'd think EM would suddenly go pro-Amarr and hold a delightful garden party for Holders with tea and ******* crumpets. Yeah. I can see exactly how he thought it'd happen. Exactly. Yep.
Your skepticism is more than valid. Instead of thinking of the question from your point of view, Anslo, think of it from his. When you do, the reason he asked that particular question becomes more clear.
Rodj Blake is no fool. "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.14 17:58:00 -
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Well I am. Spoil the surprise and give me your thoughts on it.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1643
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Posted - 2014.01.14 18:35:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Anslo wrote:Can you explain why this policy is a thing for you, Rodjy? He probably wants to know if they'll keep killing PIE. My guess? Yeah.
It's more that I'm interested to know which side you'll be supporting when the inevitable falling out happens. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.14 19:32:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Ava Starfire wrote:Anslo wrote:Can you explain why this policy is a thing for you, Rodjy? He probably wants to know if they'll keep killing PIE. My guess? Yeah. It's more that I'm interested to know which side you'll be supporting when the inevitable falling out happens.
What "falling out" are you referring to?
What "sides" are there?
I'm not being obtuse, here. I'm genuinely curious to know what you think the divisions and the issues are.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.14 20:00:00 -
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This is mere wishful thinking on Blake's part. There will be no "falling out" between the Republic's various factions any more than there will be in the State between theirs (Liberals vs Practicals vs Patriots) or in his Empire (Traditionalists vs Reformers).
Quit trying to stir the pot, Blake. There's no division or discord among our people no matter how much you may wish it. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
747
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Posted - 2014.01.14 20:14:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:This is mere wishful thinking on Blake's part. There will be no "falling out" between the Republic's various factions any more than there will be in the State between theirs (Liberals vs Practicals vs Patriots) or in his Empire (Traditionalists vs Reformers).
Quit trying to stir the pot, Blake. There's no division or discord among our people no matter how much you may wish it.
If I may say so, there have been civil wars between those factions in the past. Your "never" can easily become the "eventually" in an Amarrian lifetime. It isn't stirring the pot, or he'd have gotten someone else to say it. "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.14 20:26:00 -
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Constantin Baracca wrote:
If I may say so, there have been civil wars between those factions in the past. Your "never" can easily become the "eventually" in an Amarrian lifetime. It isn't stirring the pot, or he'd have gotten someone else to say it.
It's just piling hypotheticals on hypotheticals.
We've stated our position, formally and informally: we support the Tribal Council and the reorganization of the political bodies of the Republic. We appreciate that it was done peacefully and with the support of all parties.
Asking us to comment on what might happen once a rebellion "could" happen is precisely the kind of "pot stirring" Anabella was referring to.
Not rising to the bait on that one. You have our position. There are no nuances to reflect on. |
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
747
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:15:00 -
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Del Vikus wrote:Constantin Baracca wrote:
If I may say so, there have been civil wars between those factions in the past. Your "never" can easily become the "eventually" in an Amarrian lifetime. It isn't stirring the pot, or he'd have gotten someone else to say it.
It's just piling hypotheticals on hypotheticals. We've stated our position, formally and informally: we support the Tribal Council and the reorganization of the political bodies of the Republic. We appreciate that it was done peacefully and with the support of all parties. Asking us to comment on what might happen once a rebellion "could" happen is precisely the kind of "pot stirring" Anabella was referring to. Not rising to the bait on that one. You have our position. There are no nuances to reflect on.
You do realize that Amarrians don't fish for conflict using their real identities, right? Nor was Blake asking you the question you think he's asking.
Though your answer to me probably answers the question he was looking for. "Rebellion" indeed. "What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Del Vikus
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2014.01.14 21:32:00 -
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Constantin Baracca wrote:
You do realize that Amarrians don't fish for conflict using their real identities, right? Nor was Blake asking you the question you think he's asking.
Though your answer to me probably answers the question he was looking for. "Rebellion" indeed.
The eccentricities and subtleties of Imperial courts are apparently lost on this poor Tribal, because I haven't got a clue who is asking what and what "correct" answer you or Blake is apparently looking for.
It's not often I'm happy I was born on a dusty backwater rock. But not regretting it now. |
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