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Glatheros
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:08:00 -
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i need some detailed comparasion of amarr, caldari and minmatar high end ships. im really in doubt in this matter. i use caldari caracal atm and since its not too late if its nescassary im thinking to change my ship according to the info thx.
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:19:00 -
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amarr: good firepower, awesome armor tanking minmatar: alpha-strike oriented, you need to be able to shield and armor tank to use minny ships caldari: missiles and shield tanking
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PirateShampoo
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:24:00 -
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What sort of info u looking for? There is no " i win ship " in eve. Personally i think minmatar have the best figates in the game with exception to the kestral and mantacore, i think out of the 3 races u picked amarr have the best t1 cruiser with the maller but for t2 i would go for minmatar again. BS i would have to say raven cause its a tanking animal and a temp would struggle to break it cause of its gimped projectiles. In terms of sp learning times u probably should go for caldri with the missles because minmatar and amarr projectile learning times need to b nearly maxed to have full effect.
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JoKane
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: JoKane on 18/03/2006 20:28:07 Amarr: Lots of cap and armor, tanks very well. No need for ammo since they use lasers and can switch crystals fast to change the optimal range. Lasers use lots of cap and have poor falloff range.
Minnie: Can deal all kinds of dmg. Projeticle weapons use almost no cap at all and have very good falloff range. The ships are fast and can both armor and shield tank. The ROF on the artillery guns are slow but they hit hard.
Caldari: Shield tanking ships. EW bonus to some ships and most of them use missiles. The gunbotas gets bonus to optimal range on hybrids which makes them good snipers. Hyrbids can only do thermal and kin dmg but missiles can deal all types. Launchers use no cap but hybrids use insane amounts. The tier2 battleship, the Raven, is a awsome PvE ship.
Prolly forgot lots of things, just mentioned what came on my mind now.
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Soyemia
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:34:00 -
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Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
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Soyemia
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
Well, tell me good solo ships. Cyclone suck solo VERY VERY ABDLY. Rupture with stabber is amoust only options.
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PirateShampoo
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Posted - 2006.03.18 20:58:00 -
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Well for solo pvp the only ship i feel confidence in is the wolf, i dont think minmatar have great T1 cruisers (rupture is a good frig killer though).... but they have a uber HAC in the gueise of a Vagabond
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Soyemia
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
Well, tell me good solo ships. Cyclone suck solo VERY VERY ABDLY. Rupture with stabber is amoust only options.
cyclone will kick the arse of the other 3 bc, rupture will kick the arse of all the other combat cruisers (assuming it's not jammed), rifter will kill all t1 frigs besides the kessie where it goes down to who gets the first shot off, vagabond is THE BEST SOLO SHIP IN EVE.
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Soyemia
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:02:00 -
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Solo you need scrambler to hold target, MWD to get close with your AC:s, and you have 3 slots for tanking?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Soyemia Solo you need scrambler to hold target, MWD to get close with your AC:s, and you have 3 slots for tanking?
if we're talking about the cyclone: large booster, invul field, em hardener, 3 nos - with battlecruisers 4 you get a built-in shield boost amp.
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Soyemia
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
Well, tell me good solo ships. Cyclone suck solo VERY VERY ABDLY. Rupture with stabber is amoust only options.
Vagabond, Claw, Wolf, some autotempests, etc
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OrangeAfroMan
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
Well, tell me good solo ships. Cyclone suck solo VERY VERY ABDLY. Rupture with stabber is amoust only options.
cyclone will kick the arse of the other 3 bc, rupture will kick the arse of all the other combat cruisers (assuming it's not jammed), rifter will kill all t1 frigs besides the kessie where it goes down to who gets the first shot off, vagabond is THE BEST SOLO SHIP IN EVE.
^^^^^
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BlackMoon Thrawn
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:07:00 -
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Sarmaul, what about the battleships? Im having a ton of fun with the frigs and cruisers(havent trained up bc yet).
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: BlackMoon Thrawn Sarmaul, what about the battleships? Im having a ton of fun with the frigs and cruisers(havent trained up bc yet).
just stay away from domi's and ravens and you'll be fine :)
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
what game you playing again Sarmaul? Minney ships are comparative with the other ships in PvE. They just aren't ships to be lazy about it in.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
what game you playing again Sarmaul? Minney ships are comparative with the other ships in PvE. They just aren't ships to be lazy about it in.
all I'm saying is that there's a very good reason why I'm training caldari BS 4 for level 4 missions instead of using my minmatar bs 5
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:15:00 -
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sorry, but vagabond is an overrated ship
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri sorry, but vagabond is an overrated ship
in the right hands it's deadly. unfortunatly, the slightest*****-up and you go bang in under 5 seconds
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
what game you playing again Sarmaul? Minney ships are comparative with the other ships in PvE. They just aren't ships to be lazy about it in.
all I'm saying is that there's a very good reason why I'm training caldari BS 4 for level 4 missions instead of using my minmatar bs 5
Sorry... I have Minny BS 5 and Caldari BS 4, and I still mission run in my Typhoon. I was going to get a raven... but tbh armor tanking is sexy and having near maxed mechanic skills gives the phoon flavor the tempest can't compete with very well. I have been using a prophecy for ratting in 0.0 and tbh I am changing back to the phoon for that too to offset the monotony [yes the proph is uber for ratting].
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.18 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Soyemia Generaly I would say: Dont pick minmatar if you want to be effective solo/small gangs/PvE.
pve yes - minny ships suck at it. for small gangs/solo, minny are probably one of the best races around for it.
what game you playing again Sarmaul? Minney ships are comparative with the other ships in PvE. They just aren't ships to be lazy about it in.
all I'm saying is that there's a very good reason why I'm training caldari BS 4 for level 4 missions instead of using my minmatar bs 5
Sorry... I have Minny BS 5 and Caldari BS 4, and I still mission run in my Typhoon. I was going to get a raven... but tbh armor tanking is sexy and having near maxed mechanic skills gives the phoon flavor the tempest can't compete with very well. I have been using a prophecy for ratting in 0.0 and tbh I am changing back to the phoon for that too to offset the monotony [yes the proph is uber for ratting].
hmmm I didn't even think of the phoon... and I have maxed mechanic skills (besides level 4 resist ones)
thanks!
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