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Katrina Warsong
Skynet Security Division
3
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:22:00 -
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Hello everyone,
When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.
Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.
Why don't these things get protected by concord rules? Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object?
Let's be clear, i have nothing against pilots who do this, it's quite a good income and may lead you to a nice billionare ship kill.
I just want to read other people's opinion on this. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8180
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:24:00 -
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They do get protected by CONCORD rules. CONCORD looks the other way if you attack the person who attacks them. My EVE Videos |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8911
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:24:00 -
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CONCORD already does too much for Highsec, including leading them to believe that HIghsec is 'safe'.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2305
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:26:00 -
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If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it. Oh god. |
Dave Stark
4139
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:28:00 -
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Katrina Warsong wrote:I just want to read other people's opinion on this.
it's fine. |
Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
32
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:32:00 -
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i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.
and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu WTS BPO : |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
18777
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:32:00 -
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Katrina Warsong wrote:Why don't these things get protected by concord rules? Because they're meant to be easy to attack and to work as conflict creators.
Quote:Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object? Because it makes no real difference. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Dave Stark
4139
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 -
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Almethea wrote:i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.
and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu
i love how everyone that disagrees with a bad idea regarding high sec is a goon. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8913
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 -
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Almethea wrote:i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.
and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu
Grrrrr Me.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8183
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:35:00 -
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Almethea wrote:i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe. Funny, all I said was that you get to attack anyone that attacks your MTU. A total lack of CONCORD protection would mean that they'd blow you up for doing so.
Also, nice censor evasion there. That's totally smart. It's not as if people don't already know what word you mean via context. My EVE Videos |
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Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
32
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:38:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Almethea wrote:i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.
and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu i love how everyone that disagrees with a bad idea regarding high sec is a goon.
goon or cfc or whatever you want be called (and you can try to hide your true natue by corp jumping, you still a little sma) WTS BPO : |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:39:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Almethea wrote:i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe. Funny, all I said was that you get to attack anyone that attacks your MTU. A total lack of CONCORD protection would mean that they'd blow you up for doing so. Also, nice censor evasion there. That's totally smart. It's not as if people don't already know what word you mean via context.
Everyone who says something I don't agree with is a Goon by association.
Grrrr goons |
Dave Stark
4140
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:40:00 -
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Almethea wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Almethea wrote:i like how the regular " goons pack of sh-it" jump on every post to claim hi sec are too safe.
and before you ask, i never undock so nobody kill my mtu i love how everyone that disagrees with a bad idea regarding high sec is a goon. goon or cfc or whatever you want be called (and you can try to hide your true natue by corp jumping, you still a little sma)
not even close to being a goon, that's why i find your comment so hilarious and incorrect.
for some one who didn't undock and get their MTU shot, you sure seem mad. |
Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
32
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:46:00 -
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yeah yeah, i'm mad or i'm just bored to read always the same argument coming for "your" point of view (trying to stay polite :)
WTS BPO : |
Dave Stark
4141
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:51:00 -
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Almethea wrote:yeah yeah, i'm mad or i'm just bored to read always the same argument coming for "your" point of view (trying to stay polite :)
erm, what? |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1663
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:54:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it.
Or kill it yourself? Do you go suspect if you shoot your own MTU? I'll have to try this. |
Dave Stark
4141
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:56:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Riot Girl wrote:If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it. Or kill it yourself? Do you go suspect if you shoot your own MTU? I'll have to try this.
or just don't deploy it? |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2847
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:57:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it. ^^ This. Man-up and fight for your stuffs. Or watch it become other peoples' stuffs (including KMs). Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
8915
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:01:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Riot Girl wrote:If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it. ^^ This. Man-up and fight for your stuffs. Or watch it become other peoples' stuffs (including KMs).
::effort::
Please remember, this is Highsec we are talking about. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
205
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:10:00 -
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Katrina Warsong wrote:I just want to read other people's opinion on this.
Are you one of those who lives and dies by the almighty killboard?
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2849
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:11:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:silens vesica wrote:Riot Girl wrote:If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it. ^^ This. Man-up and fight for your stuffs. Or watch it become other peoples' stuffs (including KMs). ::effort:: Please remember, this is Highsec we are talking about. :: facepalm ::
Of course. How silly of me.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
983
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:11:00 -
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I have seen kills on the players that do this kind of thing (shooting MTUs). Sentry drones can do miracles. a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ [TALOCAN STUFF] |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15526
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:13:00 -
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Katrina Warsong wrote:Hello everyone,
When doing some mindless carebearing in l4s some random guy got in and flagged him self in hope of me taking the bait, bothered by my ignorance he destroyed the MTU i had on the field. Didn't bother me either since it had only junk inside. Only later i noticed the loss in my kill mails.
Personally i think it's an unfairly easy +1 kill.
Why don't these things get protected by concord rules? Shooting an MTU gives a suspect flag, not a Concord response, this is by design.
Quote:Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object? Killing the MTU isn't the aim of the exercise, catching someone with their pants down, IE: with their drones set to aggressive and dumb enough not to recall them, or just plain silly enough to take a pot shot and start a limited engagement is.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1663
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Posted - 2014.01.07 20:41:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Ptraci wrote:Riot Girl wrote:If you don't want them to get the KM, stop them from killing it. Or kill it yourself? Do you go suspect if you shoot your own MTU? I'll have to try this. or just don't deploy it?
A true killmail "another word for female sex worker" will "female sex worker" on his own killmails, of course :P |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4096
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Posted - 2014.01.07 21:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Katrina Warsong wrote:Why don't these things get protected by concord rules? Because they're meant to be easy to attack and to work as conflict creators. Quote:Why are you free to get a +1 kill on pilot owned object? Because it makes no real difference.
Are you sure about this difference?
From what I understand, the killboard addicts care about "green" on their board. Would an inconsequential kill that adds to this "green" not be just as bad as inconsequential ISK-earning of highsec (which the wallet-watchers equally obsess over)?
Of course an MTU (and I forgot all about them until this thread) is apt to be full of T1 salvage junk anyway, but I reckon that still "matters" to the KB addict just as much as ISK matters to people who won't tank their indy.
Can these things be looted instead? I wonder. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2014.01.07 22:38:00 -
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If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.
Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
2851
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Posted - 2014.01.07 23:41:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.
Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it. Ssssh! You're giving away the good secrets! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
I am disposable
Republic University Minmatar Republic
48
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:02:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:If this occurred a lot, surely people would start putting MTUs out as bait.
Seems simple enough to do, deploy MTU in your mates mission and then cloak a PvP gank ship and wait for someone to shoot it.
I've yet to have anyone shoot my MTU on my mining alts, so I don't think this would be very productive. |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2883
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Posted - 2014.01.08 00:11:00 -
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You know you can just scoop it right? "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4720
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Posted - 2014.01.08 02:03:00 -
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What system is this heinous crime taking place? . |
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