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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.03.18 23:17:00 -
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So, anyone have any thoughts on what it'll be like?
I have no personal opinion on it. I just really, really, really hope that we're not getting another ship with a TP bonus. ---- I <3 Taranis
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xaioguai
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Posted - 2006.03.18 23:32:00 -
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I hope they don't give us an artillery platform before the artillery fix.
when i say artillery platform, I mean ships like muninn and wolf, ships that have optimal range and tracking bonus and ships that doesn't have enough grid to fit full racks of guns.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.03.18 23:34:00 -
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The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down). ----------------
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down).
correct. and the bonus is 10% to rate of fire.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
Originally by: keepiru The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down).
correct. and the bonus is 10% to rate of fire.
we *think* :)
I need to dig out that graph that shows 1200mms on the tier 3 outdamaging dual 650mms on a tempest :)
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xaioguai
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down).
Yes, read it quite a few times before, but tbh, if the above state is true(never change), I will start training large beam spec now, with 19k grid and most likely ccp will not give another minnie ship double damage bonus, fitting tach seem to be the only reasonable choice.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: xaioguai
Originally by: keepiru The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down).
Yes, read it quite a few times before, but tbh, if the above state is true(never change), I will start training large beam spec now, with 19k grid and most likely ccp will not give another minnie ship double damage bonus, fitting tach seem to be the only reasonable choice.
it will have the same alpha stike as a apoc with 1400mms, and double the dps. a shield tanked ac setup pushes well over 1000 dps. it has the second largest drone bay out of all the tier 3 place holders. it has 8 turrets.
I dream about this ship every night
AC Tempest vs 1200mm Tier 3 Tier 3 AC Damage (Ignore the top line - drone damage mods are now carrier only) Tier 3 Artillery Damage
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: xaioguai
Originally by: keepiru The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down).
Yes, read it quite a few times before, but tbh, if the above state is true(never change), I will start training large beam spec now, with 19k grid and most likely ccp will not give another minnie ship double damage bonus, fitting tach seem to be the only reasonable choice.
it will have the same alpha stike as a apoc with 1400mms, and double the dps. a shield tanked ac setup pushes well over 1000 dps. it has the second largest drone bay out of all the tier 3 place holders. it has 8 turrets.
I dream about this ship every night
AC Tempest vs 1200mm Tier 3 Tier 3 AC Damage (Ignore the top line - drone damage mods are now carrier only) Tier 3 Artillery Damage
Increadible, nearly the same damage as a geddon
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: xaioguai
Originally by: keepiru The links to the prelim stats already in the DB have been posted a gazillion times... its got 8 turret slots and its 8-6-6... most recently posted here (scroll down).
Yes, read it quite a few times before, but tbh, if the above state is true(never change), I will start training large beam spec now, with 19k grid and most likely ccp will not give another minnie ship double damage bonus, fitting tach seem to be the only reasonable choice.
it will have the same alpha stike as a apoc with 1400mms, and double the dps. a shield tanked ac setup pushes well over 1000 dps. it has the second largest drone bay out of all the tier 3 place holders. it has 8 turrets.
I dream about this ship every night
AC Tempest vs 1200mm Tier 3 Tier 3 AC Damage (Ignore the top line - drone damage mods are now carrier only) Tier 3 Artillery Damage
Increadible, nearly the same damage as a geddon
yeah it would be like if the geddon got it's explosive crystals
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:36:00 -
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the bonus is indeed 10% rof as it is now in the DB: shipBonusMB2 -10
on the Tempest it is shipBonusMB2 -5
conlusion: it must be rof.
about autocannon dot comparable to geddon - not really. you will be far into your falloff with the ACs and gl getting that heavy ship close to the target, you'll mostly need a good warp in just like with blaster mega. with 8 turrets and no nos or other hislot mods it will be pretty vulnerable aswell. the clip will be empty in no time with 50% faster rof. so that makes it a minmatar-style alphastrike ship that has to kill the target before having to reload. perfect t3 BS if you ask me.
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.03.19 00:37:00 -
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Geez, I really would hate to see annother sniping battleship =/
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Ante
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Posted - 2006.03.19 03:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ante on 19/03/2006 03:41:58
Originally by: Keta Min the bonus is indeed 10% rof as it is now in the DB: shipBonusMB2 -10
on the Tempest it is shipBonusMB2 -5
conlusion: it must be rof.
Typhoon: shipBonusMB 10 (optimal)
Tempest: shipBonusMB 5 (damage)
Armageddon: shipBonusAB2 -5 (ROF)
Apocalypse: shipBonusAB2 5 (cap)
Conclusion: your conclusion isn't very conclusive. All this shows is that the DB doesn't tell you what the bonus is to.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.19 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ante Edited by: Ante on 19/03/2006 03:41:58
Originally by: Keta Min the bonus is indeed 10% rof as it is now in the DB: shipBonusMB2 -10
on the Tempest it is shipBonusMB2 -5
conlusion: it must be rof.
Typhoon: shipBonusMB 10 (optimal)
Tempest: shipBonusMB 5 (damage)
Armageddon: shipBonusAB2 -5 (ROF)
Apocalypse: shipBonusAB2 5 (cap)
Conclusion: your conclusion isn't very conclusive. All this shows is that the DB doesn't tell you what the bonus is to.
Its a negative bonus, so its either Cap use or ROF
but maybe Tuxford thinks its funny to give a 10% bonus for TP CPU usage
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.03.19 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Ante Edited by: Ante on 19/03/2006 03:41:58
Originally by: Keta Min the bonus is indeed 10% rof as it is now in the DB: shipBonusMB2 -10
on the Tempest it is shipBonusMB2 -5
conlusion: it must be rof.
Typhoon: shipBonusMB 10 (optimal)
Tempest: shipBonusMB 5 (damage)
Armageddon: shipBonusAB2 -5 (ROF)
Apocalypse: shipBonusAB2 5 (cap)
Conclusion: your conclusion isn't very conclusive. All this shows is that the DB doesn't tell you what the bonus is to.
Its a negative bonus, so its either Cap use or ROF
but maybe Tuxford thinks its funny to give a 10% bonus for TP CPU usage
or it's a 10% laser cap use bonus, hinting that we should finally fit real longrange guns like tachyons.
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