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Dr 0wnage
The Dark Tribe
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Posted - 2011.11.08 01:19:00 -
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Electronic Attack ships are currently the least used ships in the game. A very simple way to increase their usability and viability is to turn them into mini force recon ships. I don't see this as being op really in any way and honestly its what the class should have been incorporated with to begin with.
Thoughts? Feedback??
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.08 01:32:00 -
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This is a very interesting idea. They would be a cheap alternative to recons for BO drops, and the cloak would greatly increase their survivability. I still think they need significantly increased targeting range too... but this idea has some merit.
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.11.08 02:24:00 -
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It would probably tromp all over the CovOps frigate niche.
EAFs need love, but I think their solution lies more in better survivability such as a smaller sig radius, higher speed and higher resists. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2011.11.08 02:47:00 -
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Yeah, more tank is definitely what the EAFs need. As-is they end up with 2-5k EHP most of the time, which is a volley or two from being in a pod. They either need the ability to completely lock down a target so that they can't be touched (which would be OP and won't happen) or they need enough EHP to survive for a bit. As-is they have no DPS or EHP, so they're of limited use in solo work and end up primaried in gang work, which makes them fairly useless.
And lower sig/faster speed/better resists/etc count as more 'tank' in this case, anything to keep them from going boom quite so quickly. |
Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.08 03:21:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:It would probably tromp all over the CovOps frigate niche.
EAFs need love, but I think their solution lies more in better survivability such as a smaller sig radius, higher speed and higher resists.
I don't see niche overlap. The scanner frigs has scanning bonus and are only for scanning, it's too gimped as combat/tackler in normal circumstances. SB is SB.
A ewar frig with covops would be a mini recon whose niche is nowhere close to the other covops frigs. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.08 12:29:00 -
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Adding covert ops cloak to weak ships is not a solution.
Reduce sig radius, increase speed, boost resistances, maybe throw in that AF afterburner bonus that was played around with on Sisi a long time ago.
Speed tanking ewarfare frigates would be sexy. |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2011.11.08 14:16:00 -
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I'm a Keres specialized pillot and i say that with 3 dumps and a MWD you can outrange all locking distances that would be about 30Km...
It would be realy good if it could warp cloacked... since it doesnt lock as fast as it should... the surprise effect would do the trick...
Also it would be a good tackler for a SB roaming fleet
For the others EAF there should be more bonuses...
Keres - Need Cloack
Kitsune - Need Less signature and cloak..
Hyena - Need more Agility and less signature (more survivability) and maybe another mid-slot .....
Sentinel - More agility and less signature ( more survivability) another hi-slot and clock
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Dr 0wnage
The Dark Tribe
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Posted - 2011.11.08 17:07:00 -
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I think its pretty well accepted that EAFs need a bit of a "tank" buff, be it sig radius, speed, or resist. The instapop factor is just too much of a negative at this point. Adding the ability of the covert ops cloak gives the pilot a much better opportunity to choose their fights and to decide when that suicide tackle is necessary ;-)
As Goose pointed out it won't detract from covert ops as they get the scanning bonus and will still be the ship of choice for that role. Stealth bombers are already widely used many times to fill the role that the EAFs would be better at given the option to warp cloaked. |
McGrits
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.11.08 19:00:00 -
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Adding a cloak to the EAS is not the answer. In fact, it greatly detracts from the Stealth Bomber (and scanning ships somewhat).
The Stealth Bomber, especially the 4-mid slot bombers, are great tacklers. They have the ability to fit a shield tank plus guns and small missiles to fight off drones while also fiting points and web. Are they as good as inties or AFs? No, but they get the instalock from a decloak. Giving this to EAS will reduce the inventive fits and creativity in the game.
To help EAS, they all just need a little something-something. For example, the Hyena needs the speed bonus that the vigil gets. not anything else really.
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luvmehard
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.08 19:31:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Adding covert ops cloak to weak ships is not a solution.
Reduce sig radius, increase speed, boost resistances, maybe throw in that AF afterburner bonus that was played around with on Sisi a long time ago.
Speed tanking ewarfare frigates would be sexy. +1 Please support my proposal for LP relocation! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30500 |
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