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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2006.03.21 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dianoga Pactor ...never seen a HAC bpo but guessing 80 units of that one thing to build them......
Let me help out a little since i have seen one.
They need 300 at zero wastage ME lvls. Assume 303 to 306 shield emitters each HAC. They need either 100, 200, or 300 of each tech 2 part used. (i think there are 6 needed and 1 need 100 units, 2 need 200 units, and 2 need 300 units.)
Not a flame, just a little more ammo for your arguement :)
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Cournacovia The hac prices are getting ridiculous guys, seriously will all you greedy producers STOP ripping those of us off and bring the prices down. im sure many people will agree with me here.
Comments welcome
WTS: clue. It's in high demand, but people need it to realize it.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: WarGod well i no longer intend on getting a hac till i see em LOWER then 100mill.
Think we should all get 2gether and kill every1 with a hac BPO
Good luck killing those production alts that never leave the station.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
DarkStar251
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Posted - 2006.03.21 20:50:00 -
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Yes, the prices are silly. But its nobodys fault, there is a huge demand and the silly closed BPO system in t2 means that there is no way to meet that demand.
More people are able to fly them now, and there are more people in EVE, so the market is bigger but the supply the same size, hence prices rise.
I own precisely 0 t2 bpos. I fly Gallente and Amarr HACs. I hate paying silly prices, but thats what the market value of them is. I put up or I fly a bs instead.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.21 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing in light of recent charges of battery, the family of this horse is currently trying to get a posthumous restraining order against whiners
i was quite proud of that what do you gotta do be a creative troll round here?
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 20:57:00 -
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I'm going to just sum up my thoughts on this thread and others:
P.S. Please don't pwn it mods, it eeds to be seen.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:02:00 -
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Well, CCP has indicated they're looking at releasing more BPO's. I consider that a mistake. They should reduce HAC production time instead. Currently it's identical to CBC production time, which is wrong.
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
Skogul
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:15:00 -
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I wonder if we will see long waiting list for Command ships in the future when people have trained to fly them. They are an uber HAC after all.
Was wondering if it was worth investing isk in them while they are reasonably cheap.
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unos
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu Anyone that complains about HAC prices should train for command ships. You're only about a month away, and they're cheaper!
They are cheaper now, but when ppl start to skill up for them, they will rise just as the HACs did.. tbh, I can't wait..
Praeparatus supervivet! A wise man does not fear, a man afraid does not think! |
Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:20:00 -
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Reducing build times only make the rich richer.
A patent provides sole production for a set amount of time, as shown by (shikari?) post.
Why not reseed all tech 2 bpos once again ( spread out of 3-4 months) and 3-4 months after their second release, allow for the purchase of the BPO at ridiculous isk prices from the corporation that made it.
Or possibly BPCs as agent rewards...
There are a lot of ways to 'fix' this system, or at least improve it because I suppose it's not technically broken. ---
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Alzion
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:21:00 -
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So you can't afford a HAC? Wants are unlimited while supply is limited, its called scarcity. If you can't get a HAC then fly a Battleship.
Also, HAC producers arn't ripping people off as long as people are buying them, welcome to a free market economy. --------------------------------------------- I hear Linux can cure cancer and raise your sperm count. - Dionysus Davinci
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio Reducing build times only make the rich richer.
A patent provides sole production for a set amount of time, as shown by (shikari?) post.
Why not reseed all tech 2 bpos once again ( spread out of 3-4 months) and 3-4 months after their second release, allow for the purchase of the BPO at ridiculous isk prices from the corporation that made it.
Or possibly BPCs as agent rewards...
There are a lot of ways to 'fix' this system, or at least improve it because I suppose it's not technically broken.
And releasing more BPO's, say double, will only increase production by a far smaller amount since a lot of corps will TRY and fail to produce them for months, a whole bunch will be sat on by people not producing and so on.
Plus the expense of the current buyers buying up more HAC BPC's will be...reflected in the lack of a price drop. Whereas if there is a production speed increase, the price WILL drop.
Digital Communist> The Jin-Mei are probably more profficient in training for Tofu and Noodles than Spaceship Command |
RedWyvern
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:30:00 -
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someone really should make a sticky of this topic. A new one appears as soon as its predecessor falls to page 2. -------------------------------------------------- Loyalty, Integrity, Honour. |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:30:00 -
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i've worked it out. HAC producers sell to themselves! in order to keep demand high, they sell HACs to themselves, boosting prices, meaning they are the only ones able to buy their own product, which is cool, because thats what they wanted to do
how smart are they?
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:32:00 -
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Khatred will be soooooooooooooooooooooo turned on tomorrow when he sees this thread reaches page 10.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.03.21 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Well, CCP has indicated they're looking at releasing more BPO's. I consider that a mistake. They should reduce HAC production time instead. Currently it's identical to CBC production time, which is wrong.
Sell me some cheap vagas and I'll agree with you otherwise shut up.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.03.21 22:51:00 -
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Just fly something else.
Battlecruisers, for example. HACs are way overrated. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Alyth
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Posted - 2006.03.21 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Alyth
Originally by: Raluque Production cost is like 40-50mil iirc... Silly ain't it.. Saw a Cerberus for 210mil on escrow other day.. *shocking*
Well when it stops being a case of 20 cerbs built every 36 hours, because thats how cerb BPOs there are and thats how long it takes to build one, costs will drop. Unless the suppliers can meet the demand of their clients without 8 month waiting lists there won't be any price drops unfortunately. It's a sad state of affairs but unfortunately there are only enough BPs to supply a 10k population (and thats pushing it) but we have a 25k population market.
This is for the people that DON'T read an entire thread and then post why they think they are getting 'ripped off'
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.21 23:01:00 -
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I want to see a cap on the number of times this topic can be posted.
How about once a month?
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Eddie
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Posted - 2006.03.21 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Feynman Oh dear god not another one.
Order one from a tech II producer if you want a good price. Just have to wait.
qft
Originally by: TomB It is a good day to be Jove
oh thank GOD! I thought you were gonna wave the nerf bat around in this thread
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Midfrost
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Posted - 2006.03.21 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu Anyone that complains about HAC prices should train for command ships. You're only about a month away, and they're cheaper!
Excuse me? Leadership lvl 5? Squadron Command lvl 5? Battlecruisers lvl 5?
Let's say 3+ months, and you're getting there. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
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Deileon
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:35:00 -
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I have a solution.
Raise the cost of whining.
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:39:00 -
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This is one of those "Twighlight Zone " posts isnt it ?
"You cant polish a turd" - The new rendered font is living proof.
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tharkad HAC bpo's won't be added cause ccp needs some way to give there buddies easy cash to buy up all the stupidly expensive crap there putting in the game nowadays.
Its no fun for CCP to put all these new stations and bases in game if no one has the cash to invest in them.
So they funnel the best bpo's to the right people to see that they continue to push forward and build the stupidly expensive stuff.
Yes.. you are SOO right... CCP run this game only to enjoy themselves by cheating all of us.
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itsatrappp
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:58:00 -
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if you think makine 20 BILLION A MONTH is sick, well guess who is making that much?
t2 HAC BPO owners. yes 20 BILLION a month.
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:58:00 -
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I laugh at hac prices, since depending on what needs to be done a cruiser bs or BC will do the same job and for cheaper.
and in almost every case in a 1v1 BC > HAC and in some cases a smart crusier pilot can beat most Hacs
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: itsatrappp if you think makine 20 BILLION A MONTH is sick, well guess who is making that much?
t2 HAC BPO owners. yes 20 BILLION a month.
(120 million profit per HAC) * 20 a month = 2.4 billion
Not quiiiite 20 billion
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:02:00 -
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On the one hand people want HAC prices to drop.
On the other, people need a HAC to increase the length of their 3-p33n and can't resist those 225m Pricetags.
And you think adding another 20 HAC BPO's will solve this?
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Darpz
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:04:00 -
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the way the tech 2 bpo system should be is for the first 3 months. then after that which is useually about the time it takes for the demand to settle there should be a auction for a BPO every month, with a reserve simlar to a formula of something like 2(baseprice x amount of the item produced in a year) that way the BPOs never become cheap enough to buy and just produce at just over cost like tech 1 is now.
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Al Thorr
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Al Thorr on 22/03/2006 01:06:42 Hmm lets take a 30 day month.
Hacs take 36 hours ie 1.5 days 30 /1.5 = 20 Hacs per month
Havnt seen any hacs on sale for 1 billion yet.
Hope this helps
( and damn you fast typing people :)
Regards Al Thorr
"You cant polish a turd" - The new rendered font is living proof.
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