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Drainelle
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:44:00 -
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I have been on eve for 15 months with 3 accounts. All three are approaching 20 mil sp's. One is set up for missions, but can mine a little and has leadership skills when I am using all three at once. One is miner/builder/researcher (just for bp's I buy). The third is miner w/ high trade skills to sell stuff built. Have a few frig bpos and buy bs bpcs from time to time. I have never had more than a few hundred mil isk in my wallet.
Have joined corps that promise the world, but I never get anything and give them mountains of ore (have personally mined out eight entire fields inside of six days - no, I do not macro). Then in a few months the corp breaks up for various reasons and I am solo again, like now.
My question is, how do you make the big isk in this game. I am so far from making capital ships, carriers or other cool stuff (have never seen a dread or titan) due to the extremely high startup costs. Where is the money on eve these days. Is it missions, trading, building, mining or what??
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/03/2006 00:46:04
My guide to making ISK.... Sorta old but still good, mostly.
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Bigoleed
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:46:00 -
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Tech II it seems and good production/trading
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Drainelle I have been on eve for 15 months with 3 accounts. All three are approaching 20 mil sp's. One is set up for missions, but can mine a little and has leadership skills when I am using all three at once. One is miner/builder/researcher (just for bp's I buy). The third is miner w/ high trade skills to sell stuff built. Have a few frig bpos and buy bs bpcs from time to time. I have never had more than a few hundred mil isk in my wallet.
Have joined corps that promise the world, but I never get anything and give them mountains of ore (have personally mined out eight entire fields inside of six days - no, I do not macro). Then in a few months the corp breaks up for various reasons and I am solo again, like now.
My question is, how do you make the big isk in this game. I am so far from making capital ships, carriers or other cool stuff (have never seen a dread or titan) due to the extremely high startup costs. Where is the money on eve these days. Is it missions, trading, building, mining or what??
join a long standing corp, in a 0.0 alliance, and move out to 0.0 space. (scam corps and such tend to break up after reaping the rewards of suckers working for them)
Miners get paid well. PVE players get to hunt the big rats. Trade runners can buy the better gear off hunters and run it to empire in a convoy to sell at top dollar.
my main has well over a billion in isk and assets and has yet to return to empire for anything other then skill books (when noone has what I want or can find it, which hasn't happened in months)...and he has less then 12mil sp's, with only a couple of days a week to play.
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Drainelle
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:56:00 -
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I have started to read that guide. A lot of it so far talks about going to low sec. I tried that a few times and have lost everything. Once I lost my mark 5 that was equipped with 5 locals. It was carrying two coveters with t2 gear and other stuff. I was podded as well so lost all 5 +3 implants. Six months of work lost in 2 seconds. Almost left eve that day. Still have not gained all that back to this day.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.03.22 00:59:00 -
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/03/2006 01:02:28
Originally by: Drainelle I have started to read that guide. A lot of it so far talks about going to low sec. I tried that a few times and have lost everything. Once I lost my mark 5 that was equipped with 5 locals. It was carrying two coveters with t2 gear and other stuff. I was podded as well so lost all 5 +3 implants. Six months of work lost in 2 seconds. Almost left eve that day. Still have not gained all that back to this day.
My guide doesn't have much about low sec... I make the vast majority of my money in high sec.
It would help if:
1. You learn to avoid pirates. This is quite easy.
2. You not fly things that cost so damn much. Use standard expanders, don't use implants. I have 17 farking billion ISK in assets and I don't use implants.
Flying hundreds of millions worth into low sec is just pure unadulerated stupidity.
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:02:00 -
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3 accounts x 20mil skillpoints... staying in high sec
if you're that afraid of taking risks, just sell one of the character, you will get a probably 2bil or more for it __________________ Inappropriate link description. --Jorauk mods - pwning sigs since 1943 |
Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:15:00 -
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I made 215 mil isk from bounties in 12-14 hours of NPCing on my 1 account the other day.
Attention span < isk, with your mining abilities, I'd say you would be fairly decent (2+ bil a week) if you found a good spot.
It just takes time. ---
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Vertical Aim
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Drainelle I have been on eve for 15 months with 3 accounts. All three are approaching 20 mil sp's. One is set up for missions, but can mine a little and has leadership skills when I am using all three at once. One is miner/builder/researcher (just for bp's I buy). The third is miner w/ high trade skills to sell stuff built. Have a few frig bpos and buy bs bpcs from time to time. I have never had more than a few hundred mil isk in my wallet.
Have joined corps that promise the world, but I never get anything and give them mountains of ore (have personally mined out eight entire fields inside of six days - no, I do not macro). Then in a few months the corp breaks up for various reasons and I am solo again, like now.
My question is, how do you make the big isk in this game. I am so far from making capital ships, carriers or other cool stuff (have never seen a dread or titan) due to the extremely high startup costs. Where is the money on eve these days. Is it missions, trading, building, mining or what??
Get in a corp with good .0 access with plexes, with 3 accounts you can solo 6/10 plexes and some of the last bosses drop 1 billion isk bpc's not to mention tons in bounties.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:19:00 -
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I made about 140mill ISK just spamming missions on Sunday for about 6 hours.
40 mill of that was a lucky implant but its still good ISK.
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Exuscon
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:26:00 -
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Alot of those noob 0.0 scam corps make it look good.
They will tell you come out there with all you will need and say "hey ,say when your comming so we can scout the gates."
Then they tell their buddies that your otw and they waylay you and all your tote bags full of stuff. The CEO's also alow their members to beg money off of people who just joined.
Crock of crap if you ask me. Just find you some vacant space ( .1-.4)
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Akat
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:28:00 -
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As bad as it sounds, I've npc'ed in 0.0 for almost every isk I have... It can be profitable (around 20mil+ a day for lazy hunting) and I do have a small fortune from a few lucky finds (several commanders and 1 officer).
As far as industry, there is a lot of isk that can be made, but it does take some research to find something worthwhile to invest in. DS speaks the truth about industry (I've read the guide). The payoffs are long term, especially if your investing in a T2 bpo, but I haven't been assed to get into it. As far as R&D goes, its really all luck; I was lucky enough to get and sell a t2 bpo.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/03/2006 01:27:42
Originally by: Exuscon Alot of those noob 0.0 scam corps make it look good.
They will tell you come out there with all you will need and say "hey ,say when your comming so we can scout the gates."
Then they tell their buddies that your otw and they waylay you and all your tote bags full of stuff. The CEO's also alow their members to beg money off of people who just joined.
Crock of crap if you ask me. Just find you some vacant space ( .1-.4)
I've never even heard of such a thing.
Any alliance that did that and didn't kick all those involved would be instantly discredited and probably lose most of their NAPs.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:31:00 -
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Hunted for 1.5 day like a month ago and came back to empire with over 400m in profits.. I **** you not.
Npcing is where the big isk comes from. --------------------------------------
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Na Jenton
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Posted - 2006.03.22 01:41:00 -
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that and game time cards...
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Hafthor
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Posted - 2006.03.22 03:21:00 -
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Join a corp that compliments your assets, one that will buy your ore or do missions with you or let you use it's BPO collection. If you don't feel like going into low sec then don't. If you do, then get instas and do a bit of training for it.
BTW I'll buy your ore for a fair price ... could just set up a solo operation.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.03.22 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 22/03/2006 03:39:17 I logged on today with 300 million more than I had when I logged off.
EDIT: ...but only because I got lucky in the BPO lottery.
Prior to that, I made all my money from NPCing in 0.0 and selling the loot. Since I PvP, I never built up a really big bank account, usually hovering around 200 million. Every time I'd get up to 300 million or more, I'd do something stupid in a battleship.
Side note: I just broke 1 bil for the very first time earlier today. \o/
Only 2 bil more to go before I can afford a dread along with the fittings and skillbooks for it. :P -Wrayeth
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.22 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth EDIT: ...but only because I got lucky in the BPO lottery.
How to get a tech 2 BPO: 1. Decide that your race/favorite ship class sucks 2. Go into every thread about your race/favorite ship class/favorite modules and say that it sucks. 3. Wait for next patch.
Its important to keep complaining - so much so that Tuxford (isn't he the random number generator?) will slip you a BPO! This means that Sarimul is likely to get the first tech 2 minmatar battleship bpo!*
*It'll be a typhoon with projectile optimal + missile damage on Minnie BS skill and target painting and mining yield on the tech 2 skill though. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Hokuten
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Posted - 2006.03.22 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Hokuten on 22/03/2006 04:05:30
Originally by: Drainelle
Have joined corps that promise the world, but I never get anything and give them mountains of ore (have personally mined out eight entire fields inside of six days - no, I do not macro). Then in a few months the corp breaks up for various reasons and I am solo again, like now.
My question is, how do you make the big isk in this game. I am so far from making capital ships, carriers or other cool stuff (have never seen a dread or titan) due to the extremely high startup costs. Where is the money on eve these days. Is it missions, trading, building, mining or what??
I have 2 carebear accounts worth 6m each, and easily make 40m/hour mining. If a corp isn't willing to have the things you need ready for when you get out there or have the bpcs for you to make what you need, then skip over them. With your sps and industry ability you are more of an asset to a corp than not, and one that doesn't have the ability to provide what you need upon joining or shortly thereafter doesn't have what it takes to have you as a member.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2006.03.22 04:13:00 -
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lvl 4 missions
VERY easy, like, stupidly easy
money for old rope tbh, you will make good cash if you have the stamina to bash em out all day
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Constantinee
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Posted - 2006.03.22 05:18:00 -
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U can always be a pirate ans ransome people :) but i wouldent advise it here is another tip join a corp in a alliance with 0.0 access get a escort to 0.0 mine like hell egt an escort out of 0,..0 with the mins and sell oits that simple
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KaraThrace
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Posted - 2006.03.22 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/03/2006 00:46:04
My guide to making ISK.... Sorta old but still good, mostly.
Finally somthing useful! Thanks
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Kastar
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Posted - 2006.03.22 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kastar on 22/03/2006 08:45:41 I have 2 accounts and use one to sustain the other.
The main is used to pummel around doing lv 4 - trying to learn pvp - have fun in lowsec
The alt is used to pump out minerals and build battleships. Many people say the margin on them is gone, but if you mine your commons and collect some rares with the other it's fairly lucrative and the iskies come in fluently.
Generally I have the idea that there are 3 types of pilots:
- the ones that set their mind to something and grind whatever they can continuously to get it... frecking hard work. Those in 0.0 just get there a tad faster
- the ones with the keen economical mind ( we all know the example above )
- the ones that are lucky to win the lottery ...
I never had the feeling the isk don't come in. When broke... yes it takes a while to recover but that's only normal. Myself, I'm not worried about gathering isk, I rather worry about saving it up, get a new fancy toy and stick my nose somewhere I should not be losing it all again
EDIT: come to think of it... I didn't read the risk factor in the OP. ISK is where the risk is the highest, but in general a good entrepreneur can make isk everywhere.
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Synex
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Posted - 2006.03.22 08:44:00 -
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I've made about 1.2Bil in 3 weeks from running some POS. It's hard work and requires a lot of hauling, but the money is there.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.03.22 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Exuscon Alot of those noob 0.0 scam corps make it look good.
They will tell you come out there with all you will need and say "hey ,say when your comming so we can scout the gates."
Then they tell their buddies that your otw and they waylay you and all your tote bags full of stuff. The CEO's also alow their members to beg money off of people who just joined.
Crock of crap if you ask me. Just find you some vacant space ( .1-.4)
What in the world are you talking about. Making **** up 4tl!
Originally by: Bl4zer But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Steven Dynahir
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Posted - 2006.03.22 09:10:00 -
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Simple:
1. Do something that brings money in 2. Do NOT spend it 3. Watch the pot grow
That is how you get the big ISKs. It just requires patience and planning ahead.
Af for my own, I have never had 200m ISK since I tend to invest it immediately to something. Took me 4 days to get a money for new ishtar, when I blew up the last one. And that's was in empire running missions in Vexor.
Just before purchase, I had most money for a long while. But at that time the money was required, so I saved it up. Usually I spend my money to T1 blueprints, skills and to help corporation members. --- Sell orders Free money for n00bs |
Scarlet X
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Posted - 2006.03.22 09:11:00 -
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I realised what Eve was about when i started to sell some Bookmarks..........i made over 5 Billion in 4 weeks selling these copied sets. Boring as hell but great way to make isk. |
Ripline
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Posted - 2006.03.22 09:36:00 -
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By far the simplest way would be NPCing in 0.0 , large part of income is pure cash and besides a fighting ship the upfront costs are small. And it's just plain convenient compared to mining ops. And if you don't want low sec/0.0 , try missions. Level 4s still pay decently. That said, the really really really big money is in manufacturing.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.03.22 09:44:00 -
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Starbases can be profitable if done right. Missions make good isks (especially if done in a group). Believe it or not, logistics work can be extremely profitable - 'hire a freighter' services are around 50mil a trip.
The problem you've got is that of barriers to entry. 'hubs' in empire are _saturated_ be people flooting the market with goods, at bare minimum profit margins. For most, they're probably not making enough revenue to be worth their time.
Find a market where there's a barrier to entry. Expensive blueprints can do it, but battleships and now capital ships are starting to flood too - lower supply, better margin, but worse demand. The difference being that to build carriers etc. you _have_ to do it in low sec.
Starbase operations has a barrier to entry - locate a chain, buy some towers, put them up and keep them fueled is more work than some might consider worthwhile.
Low population areas especially on the boundaries to 0.0 are very profitable - margins tend to be relatively high, and volumes are also fairly good.
Empire mining is steady income, but I've rarely found it profitable. Low sec/0.0/ice mining on the other hand, is generally much more a profitable situation.
Actaully, 0.0 is where the bigtime money is - complexes with billion payoffs, high end ores, commander rats (and general ratting netting battleships). And you don't have to do any of that, because the people who do are prepared to pay over the odds for convenience - if you're making 45million an hour mining, then it's worth a few million just so you don't have to stop for long.
And as a subtle nudge - T1 ships sell very well at the ISS outposts, Marganis and Borealis, in KDF-GY and P-2TTL as do many 'consumables' (ammo, drones, common fittings, frigates, cruisers, batttleships).
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