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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1937
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:36:00 -
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CCP, I am kicking around some ideas that are slowly coalescing and I will likely post on F&I re: NPE.
I have been on Sisi where SP is handed out for attending a stress-testing session on Sisi. I have a couple chars on Sisi with a few million each available to be used. Clearly, you run some kind of script to hand out those SP.
Do you have some mechanism in place to hand out SP on Tranquility for a new player who attends some session(s) on Sisi? In fact, it may not even be SP, but perhaps specific leveling of very specific skills. The type of sessions, and the rest of the details I will put in my F&I post. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1183
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:38:00 -
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Yes they do, no they should not.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1937
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:41:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Yes they do, no they should not.
Thanks, I will wait hopefully for a CCP response. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
766
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:43:00 -
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i highly doubt that . |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2607
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:53:00 -
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They can hand out SP on TQ as they have in the past. They did it when some skills were removed and once for a 2 day downtime.
As for doing it for new players: They already get accelerated training and tons of starter stuff. Its enough.
As for handing out SP on TQ for helping on Sisi mass tests: It would have to be a very small amount. A mass test lasts about an hour, so an hours worth of reward would be about right. But Id rather see that be ISK. The ISK you would have earned if you were doing ISK making activities on TQ during that time. Call it a reward from CONCORD for helping test new systems.
But CCP has a basic rule: What happens on Sisi stays on Sisi. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1561
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Posted - 2014.01.15 17:53:00 -
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Oh, the issues that would cause...
Certain Timezones getting upset cause it wasn't during their "Prime Time" (See grievances from live events.)
Having SiSi capable of handling the 5k+ players trying to log in and download that build.
Coding a system to streamline the SP to TQ, and NOT ******* it up!
I'm more then willing there's a lot more reasons why this would be a bad idea... ... |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1937
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Posted - 2014.01.15 18:02:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:They can hand out SP on TQ as they have in the past. They did it when some skills were removed and once for a 2 day downtime.
As for doing it for new players: They already get accelerated training and tons of starter stuff. Its enough.
As for handing out SP on TQ for helping on Sisi mass tests: It would have to be a very small amount. A mass test lasts about an hour, so an hours worth of reward would be about right. But Id rather see that be ISK. The ISK you would have earned if you were doing ISK making activities on TQ during that time. Call it a reward from CONCORD for helping test new systems.
But CCP has a basic rule: What happens on Sisi stays on Sisi.
Well, this is a small part of what I had in mind for the NPE. As for SP on TQ for mass-testing...never.
That is not the thrust of what I had in mind. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1937
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Posted - 2014.01.15 18:05:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Oh, the issues that would cause...
Certain Timezones getting upset cause it wasn't during their "Prime Time" (See grievances from live events.)
Having SiSi capable of handling the 5k+ players trying to log in and download that build.
Coding a system to streamline the SP to TQ, and NOT ******* it up!
I'm more then willing to bet there's a lot more reasons why this would be a bad idea...
All valid points, though given the amount of players I see on Sisi in the past set of mass-testing, I doubt it would be 5 K for a new-player only session.
But I still would like to know if CCP has any technical issues with the concept, and only they can answer that. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Obunagawe
308
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Posted - 2014.01.15 18:43:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote: As for doing it for new players: They already get accelerated training and tons of starter stuff. Its enough.
That hasn't been the case since 2009. Shows how utterly out of touch you are with the plight of today's new player. EVE is harder than it has ever been for those starting out - and I'm saying this as an older player with over 1 tril in the bank. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1561
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:07:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Oh, the issues that would cause...
Certain Timezones getting upset cause it wasn't during their "Prime Time" (See grievances from live events.)
Having SiSi capable of handling the 5k+ players trying to log in and download that build.
Coding a system to streamline the SP to TQ, and NOT ******* it up!
I'm more then willing to bet there's a lot more reasons why this would be a bad idea... All valid points, though given the amount of players I see on Sisi in the past set of mass-testing, I doubt it would be 5 K for a new-player only session. But I still would like to know if CCP has any technical issues with the concept, and only they can answer that.
Don't hold your breath waiting for a answer... ... |
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2406
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:20:00 -
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What do you call a new player? Oh god. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
9223
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:25:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Spurty wrote:Yes they do, no they should not.
Thanks, I will wait hopefully for a CCP response.
Then you should have filed a support ticket. Anything in General Discussion that is addressed to CCP might as well be addressed to us trolls instead.
I am against anything that is handing out SP. I am even against SP reimbursements period. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
693
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:30:00 -
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No.
But handing out supercaps and supercap skills on sisi as rewards for doing stress test work would be fun. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
108
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:41:00 -
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So let me get this straight.
You test things on Sisi. Fits, tactics, server stress. You did this, knowing full well that none of it shows on TQ. Nothing. You (and hopefully CCP if you participated in mass tests) learned stuff about how the game works and can carry that over to TQ. You are already better than you were before testing things, and now you want SP on TQ for doing things on Sisi as well?
Cripes, if that were the case I'd never buy learning implants again. Want to fly a ship? No problem, there's a mass test soon, I'll get 2M SP that way and be done with it. Burning out has never been so easy. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
673
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:45:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: All valid points, though given the amount of players I see on Sisi in the past set of mass-testing, I doubt it would be 5 K for a new-player only session.
Never underestimate the power of greed. Especially when it comes to EVE players.
CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1938
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Posted - 2014.01.15 19:51:00 -
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NearNihil wrote:So let me get this straight.
You test things on Sisi. Fits, tactics, server stress. You did this, knowing full well that none of it shows on TQ. Nothing. You (and hopefully CCP if you participated in mass tests) learned stuff about how the game works and can carry that over to TQ. You are already better than you were before testing things, and now you want SP on TQ for doing things on Sisi as well?
Cripes, if that were the case I'd never buy learning implants again. Want to fly a ship? No problem, there's a mass test soon, I'll get 2M SP that way and be done with it. Burning out has never been so easy.
You want to take stuff of context, be my guest. Or, you can wait until I formulate my thoughts on F&I, which may take a couple days, then blaze away at it there.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
171
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Posted - 2014.01.15 21:04:00 -
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1. Breaks the sandbox. 2. Does not actually help them. 3. People become spoiled. 4. Others will get jealous. 5. Creates SP farmers.
The more stuff you give a kid, the more stuff it will demand. Satisfaction comes from work, not from getting things for free.
If you hook people onto a faucet, they will stick to the faucet until the faucet stops giving.
Case closed.
Anyway, as you seem to be the local forum moron, i'll happily tell you that you are absolutely right and that it's such a great idea, that I can hardly await reading your upcoming F&I thread!
Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16469
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:04:00 -
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Now back to the norm. Good to know.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10013
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:11:00 -
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CCP's expectation is that people will participate in mass tests for the sake of contributing to the game's development, not for some carrot on the end of a stick. Handing out free SP on TQ in exchange for participating in mass tests just means that mass tests would be full of players there for the reward. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1938
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:CCP's expectation is that people will participate in mass tests for the sake of contributing to the game's development, not for some carrot on the end of a stick. Handing out free SP on TQ in exchange for participating in mass tests just means that mass tests would be full of players there for the reward.
Where in my original post do I suggest what I have in mind has ANYTHING to do with handing out SP on Tranquility for mass-testing on Singularity?
Also, in post #7, I explicitly state that SP for mass-testing should not be given out on TQ.
I simply want to know if CCP has a mechanism in place for handing out TQ SP for attendance on Sisi. I did not state what kind of session, but I assure you, it is NOT a mass-test. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
173
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Posted - 2014.01.16 00:43:00 -
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Omg how could I have not seen your genius before! Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:23:00 -
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1. Enter the bonus room 2. Get Erotica to pod you of all your SP 3. Petition CCP 4. Get reimbursed all SP 5. ????? 6. Profit |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty
58
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Posted - 2014.01.16 07:22:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Andski wrote:CCP's expectation is that people will participate in mass tests for the sake of contributing to the game's development, not for some carrot on the end of a stick. Handing out free SP on TQ in exchange for participating in mass tests just means that mass tests would be full of players there for the reward. Where in my original post do I suggest what I have in mind has ANYTHING to do with handing out SP on Tranquility for mass-testing on Singularity? Also, in post #7, I explicitly state that SP for mass-testing should not be given out on TQ. I simply want to know if CCP has a mechanism in place for handing out TQ SP for attendance on Sisi. I did not state what kind of session, but I assure you, it is NOT a mass-test.
New players would already be overwhelmed by having to handle using the TQ client, expecting them to then also learn about handling multiple client installs so that they can also login to SiSi would be borderline ******** and FAR too much information, your idea is bad and you should already know this :)
SiSi is for testing its nor for using as a NPE sandbox |
Abraham Nalelmir
THE INQUISITI0N
36
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Posted - 2014.01.16 09:01:00 -
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SP (Skillpoints) are worth money (aka: you train skills, skills take time up to months, you pay your subscription with either money or plex, plex is someone's else money, plex worth 20$)
So I don't think CCP will give you their money. In Go.. ECM I trust |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1129
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Posted - 2014.01.16 13:12:00 -
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What I want is a licence plate that says "SiSi 1337 T3ST3R" on my Typhoon.
A cosmetic gift as a token of appreciation would be cool. Anything affecting gameplay on TQ would not be cool. |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
353
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Posted - 2014.01.16 13:49:00 -
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Thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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