Ill admit i do use boosts when fighting out numbered but when its me and one other guy and i know hes not boosted i wont use mine i keep it cloake

Im a new player. Just over a week. I find reading this kind of thing extremely disheartening and demotivating.

If there really are that many players out there "boosting" (if Im using the term correctly) with multiple accounts simultaneously, I may just never even bother with the pvp element of the game.

Nor do I believe for a single secone, that if I somehow in a miracle managed to get one up on you, that you wouldnt deploy your alt into the engagement to win it.

Perhaps I need to move my interest and reading into PI instead or something where I am oess likely to have to deal with this kind of thing.

Oh and drones are immune to ECM, so that entire aspect of the game is pretty much dead, especailly in capital scale fleet warfare (which is any sov warfare now).

That is exactly why eve is stagnating with always the same players with more and more alts and no new players. Really if new players convo me sometimes wtf should I tell them? "Get alts, more alts and even more alts"?

way to write with ur forum alt there colt u make a booboo when i respond to ur plex thing and you dont answer bk but u expect me to belive u just jump bk into conversation when a nub gives u a gee up line.................

a few week aold toon isnt going to get the better of me but for arguments sake my alt doesnt join the engagement its just boosts something which is a totally viable mechanic take a look at my killboard i lose ships too its not an automatic i win feature this month ive lost more than any other month

Few week old alts really shouldnt be taking on way older players at that stage neway half of them are still learning what mods are for and before u claim its unfair i had to go through the process i started with no sp so HTFU this is eve is harsh and thats why we love it

Im not Colt. Im a new player and this is my only account. You seem to have xompletely lost touch with what a new player experiences in EVE and your advantages as a result of having played longer have gone to your head, and you take them for granted.

Its my genuine opinion, that what you are doing, is lame, and I agree with Colts assesment that this kind of multiboxing is rather sad. If you are going to gank someone with a cloaked boost in tow

And you are a liar when you claim you wouldnt deploy the boost to ensure a win.

Its something weve all had to go through and it hardens u as a player eve is a game were u either sink or swim



Its a viable tactic and available to everyone in the game not just a select few ive had hundreds of fights not just ganks ive also been ganked myself its just part of the game dont take it to heart once u learn its only pixels ull be fine colts just a bitter player hes always been that way



You say this like boosts always garuntee a win even against un boosted players this is a myth it isnt a magical " I WIN BUTTON" if someone bring in say a destroyer for my t1 frig and the lose cos i switch on boosts is that me ganking them or was that them looking for a gank on a cheap frig with a ship designed to kill frigs?

Same applies as to when i fight 2-3 v me and use boosts and i win were they also not looking to gank me?

i use my boosts situationaly and not all the time ive had loadsa fights were theres just me and the other guy in system ive even invited other guy into a fleet with me to show no boosts are used

Just a small correction here: Drones are NOT immune to ECM in general. They are immune to an ECM Burst but you can jam them with targeted ECM.

And they have low Sensor strenght so that if you assign a light ecm drone to each one you will effectively halve enemy DPS. But most people cannot accept any strategy that involves all the fleet members having cognitive capabilities.

So in theory if there are 200 archons on a grid with 10 drones each flying 400 frigates that can fly 5 drones each could drastically hit the dps output of the carriers? Whilst shooting the drones too?

HED-GP proved the simple point. 700 dreads could only kill what, 8 archons?

Thats what u get for dropping over 1000 subcaps with drones out in before ur caps u guys have used this tactic against many people before when the ***** hitting the fan and u drop the node to save **** only this time ccp actually resonded and fixed it best they could now u guys cry its broken... and the boast was never 1000 subs and dreads the boast was 1000 omega fleet dreads and wasnt it 899 supers + titans?????

Show me another game that has 4000 people all in one place or one that wouldnt die if it did... as for the null sec servers half of the space is dead at ne one time and it isnt like the largest amount of the player base actually live there what makes u guys so special??

star citizen please hahaha go give chris roberts a few $1000 for a game that may never get released they hit all the cash goals but none of there target release goals + chris doesnt have the greatest track record when it comes to hyping up games to not match the actual realese remember Feelancer neone????

Hell they're even overclocking the damned things by 40%.

Eve is actually a "veterans gank newbies with 40m skillpoint toon and 3 alts vs 1 1.5mil newbie toon" game.

A linked frig will almost always win vs a dessie. A duallinked frig will even kill a cruiser.
So don-¦t try to troll newbies.

Whilst this is all well and good, I do think it would be recommended for CCP to give some kind of indication to the player base (if they haven't) on what they believe to be, for example:


1. an optimal population for a non-reinforced node before TIDI wakes

2. an optimal population for a reinforced node before TIDI wakes

3. an optimal population for a reinforced node at 50% TIDI

4. a clear idea on how much load / performance reduction a set of say 100 Slowcats / Domi's with deployed sentries generates.


Give people an idea what they can and cannot jump into and maybe there will be less whining as they will have been warned in advance before that cyno is fired.

YA im sure a cap is going to work thats like saying im sorry cfc but vfk is being headshoitted but theres already 2000 people in system u cant jump neone else in to try and save it..

Most null sec alliance know the point at which tidi breaks when tidi was first introduced people could fight comfortably under it so they ended up dogpiling more and more into system till it broke again

Surely the simplest solution here is to simply not engage the large archon fleet? Simply distract it elsewhere and then take a second fleet into the sov territory to burn their assets down? Whilst they are trying to crawl the archon fleet back (and wasting isk to do so I guess) keep hitting sov targets whilst having some kind of harrying fleet running ahead of the archons to slow them up? I'm guessing that TiDi will work against the archons here too as their warps will be even more slow?

Running in front of them where? its light cyno > jump and instantly there,

archons dont crawl newere

Extracting an Archon fleet with hostiles present is everything but "light cyno > jump", it does not work like this, just as "assist drones > afk".

Also uneducated wining like this prevents any serious slowcat discussion from happening,