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Intera	Posted - 2006.03.25 17:41:00 - [1] I keep hearing on these forums stuff like "I was in my cruiser and I ran into a lone frig, that guy went down really easily" Not like "I was in my cruiser and I ran into a lone frig, I locked him, then 4 BS warped in and wasted me" which is pretty much what happens in my game. So am I just having really bad luck (I've never ran into a group in low sec that consists of less than 2 BS) or what?
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.25 17:47:00 - [2] I think its a combination of bad luck and not being careful. You have to make sure that those who you are attacking aren't prepared to take you out. And be ready to get out when necessary. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Hoshiko Rei	Posted - 2006.03.25 20:38:00 - [3] your getting baited
Azlana	Posted - 2006.03.25 21:00:00 - [4] Yeah piracy is interesting. From the perspective of the bear it seems that pirates can just sit there enjoy a tasty stream of defenseless ships coming through, but most of the time whatever jumps through that gate will be bigger and badder than you. I would advise useing the eve map, and finding areas where there are lots of ships in space, but not many ships killed. IF your lucky you will find a gate to camp with a steady stream of miners and NPCers coming through. Its worth remembering that lone frigs are pretty rare, since frigates usually make up a unit of a larger fleet (often as a scout).
Izo Azlion	Posted - 2006.03.25 23:04:00 - [5] Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw.
Golden Helmet	Posted - 2006.03.25 23:07:00 - [6] Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. gate camping = ISK belt hunting = thrill, satisfaction, and risk but i agree, belt hunting ftw. nothing better than spending 30 mins hunting a single NPC'ing cruiser, then shreading it up in 30 seconds and hearing the pod squish. job satisfaction ftw Don't worry, your sig is safe...wait...oops. --Jorauk
Mi Lai	Posted - 2006.03.26 00:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Intera I keep hearing on these forums stuff like "I was in my cruiser and I ran into a lone frig, that guy went down really easily" Not like "I was in my cruiser and I ran into a lone frig, I locked him, then 4 BS warped in and wasted me" which is pretty much what happens in my game. So am I just having really bad luck (I've never ran into a group in low sec that consists of less than 2 BS) or what? Just keep looking. Sometimes we have nearly continous fights, sometimes we need to roam around to just find one frigate to kill.
Pa1nbringr	Posted - 2006.03.26 01:29:00 - [8] low sec pirates have it easy -
Wrayeth	Posted - 2006.03.26 03:05:00 - [9] One thing to remember is that each region is different. Some regions are almost empty, others have heavy populations. In some regions stab use is widespread, others not so much. The same thing also applies to what ship classes people fly. -Wrayeth
Mandabar	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:37:00 - [10] Edited by: Mandabar on 26/03/2006 09:40:40 Sorry Mate. Didn't Mean to make your Budding Pirate career Tough or anything. Try elsewhere.
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.26 09:52:00 - [11] I read this post and for once in my whole life I honestly felt a little bit of guilt. It only lasted about 20 seconds... but let me give you a few pointers. #1. You need to pick your targets based on what you feel comfortable fighting. Shooting at people who are below -5 insures that you are taking on someone who is PvP experienced and may very well kill you. #2. You need to pay attention to local politics. It isn't wise to attack corps in their home territory for your "first" PvP fights. #3. You need to coordinate your configs more. The daredevil with ECM was a nice touch but both the raven and the ferox were configed for tank and didn't have the DPS to kill my megathron. #4. Don't make up stories about people attacking you in the belts etc to try and get help. That is the kind of stuff that gets your whole corp set to -10 very quickly. Don't take this as a flame. If you want to sort out that little "misunderstanding" as you put it then convo me in game. However this time be honest, the raven pilot who jumped into Assietess and started claming that your ferox and daredevil had been killed by pirates in asteroid belts well you were mining made the issue a little bit more then a "misunderstanding" in our eyes.
Intera	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:14:00 - [12] Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:17:57 Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:16:29 Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:15:49 Nikolas, I'm not ****ting you here but that guy was drunk and he's a pretty well respected guy in out Corp so I was following the orders he gave me. I also had no idea that my corpmate had made up a story. But you have to understand, before we came here we were told that it was a "safe" system and anyone with -5.0 or less would be killed, and we were NOT informed of you being friendly, so how were we to know? Anyway I can understand you destroying my ship but I think the podkill was a bit extreme, but I'm not going to moan about it. What are you talking about me asking for help in local btw? I never asked for help, I was asking wtf you were doing because I thought we had sorted it out the night before considering that everyone in local seemed to be cool and we weren't attacked, plus you'd already destroyed my ship. Anyway we don't really care if the corps based in that system set us to -10 has we have no interest in it anymore. You might not care but I have no hard feelings and cheers for the advice.
B0rn2KiLL	Posted - 2006.03.26 10:50:00 - [13] lol the systems ur in and the ppl u killed are anti pirate :p i should know, i live downthere dude seriously be careful lol --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed.
Intera	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:04:00 - [14] ^^ I know, but it wasn't very clear. Lesson Learned.
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Intera Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:25:00 Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:17:57 Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:16:29 Edited by: Intera on 26/03/2006 10:15:49 Nikolas, I'm not ****ting you here but that guy was drunk and he's a pretty well respected guy in out Corp so I was following the orders he gave me. I also had no idea that my corpmate had made up a story. But you have to understand, before we came here we were told that it was a "safe" system and anyone with -5.0 or less would be killed, and we were NOT informed of you being friendly, so how were we to know? Anyway I can understand you destroying my ship but I think the podkill was a bit extreme, but I'm not going to moan about it. What are you talking about me asking for help in local btw? I never asked for help, I was asking wtf you were doing because I thought we had sorted it out the night before considering that everyone in local seemed to be cool and we weren't attacked, plus you'd already destroyed my ship. Anyway we don't really care if the corps based in that system set us to -10 has we have no interest in it anymore. You might not care but I have no hard feelings and cheers for the advice. Oh can I just add, I have no intention of being a pirate, I was actually trying to be anti-pirate, probably why I'm having some trouble finding people because I only attack low sec. lunafaerie was the raven pilot who was asking for help in local in Assietess, not you. Sorry if I misspoke. My post honestly wasn't intended as a flame. I posted because I do care. I don't want you too get discouraged with PvP. You guys put up a valiant fight. We can sort the standings bit and any of your memebers that want to learn how to be effective PvPers/anti-pirates we could take them along on some ops and help teach them some of the basic group layouts (for configs), etc. :) Its your call, no hard feelings on my end.
Intera	Posted - 2006.03.26 11:45:00 - [16] That would be cool. I am up for some PvP advice. I don't really want to be on the pirate course though, more anti-pirate as so many have attempted to kill me in the past. Would be much appreciated if you're willing. The ferox is the best ship I can fly atm, but I can't bring myself to go into one right now as I've lost 4 in the last 3 days.
Funkcikle	Posted - 2006.03.26 22:17:00 - [17] More Anti-pirates In our area would be a most welcome thing U could certainly learn a fair bit From ol NiK. In future, scout a system n suss out local politics if your going to be in the area for any lenght of time. Luv Funk TFRC PvP Fleet Commander
Wrayeth	Posted - 2006.03.26 22:21:00 - [18] Edited by: Wrayeth on 26/03/2006 22:24:04 Sometimes you just have bad luck. The other day I went out and tried to pirate for five(!) hours and didn't get anything - everything was stabbed out. Today, we killed three battleships and an interceptor. -Wrayeth
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.26 22:25:00 - [19] Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/03/2006 22:25:42 Bad luck. I camped for 8 hours today. When I left, then my gang got a fight. Life is just too cruel. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Niques Leutre	Posted - 2006.03.27 00:01:00 - [20] Edited by: Niques Leutre on 27/03/2006 00:02:27 All those kills you hear about were probably in Old Man Star (0.4 System). Gallente newbies get missions into there, and it contains an unusually high number of pirates for that kind of region (probably due to the missions mentioned above). It's actually not unusual to see cruisers and battleships from time to time hunting down day old frigate newbies, or even rookie ships. I guess they're just greifers or they're farming negative rep to look tough.
Spartan III	Posted - 2006.03.27 00:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting is for losers. Anti-piracy 4TW, way more risk, fun. You not only don't get that guilty feeling about killing some young noob, but you get a great feeling of pride that you stopped piracy. --- Wolven Elite Guard - Currently recruiting
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.03.27 02:53:00 - [22] Yeah.. do your research before shooting... I landed next to a guy in a Jaguar with a negative sec status, so I attacked and killed him with my Claw, only to find out seconds later that he was in one of the corps we were going to make an alliance with..... for some reason his standing hadn't been set to +10... it was just 0, lol
Rasitiln	Posted - 2006.03.27 02:57:00 - [23] Originally by: Spartan III Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting is for losers. Anti-piracy 4TW, way more risk, fun. You not only don't get that guilty feeling about killing some young noob, but you get a great feeling of pride that you stopped piracy. you have no idea do you. That 1% was enough - Wrangler
Spartan III	Posted - 2006.03.27 05:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Rasitiln Originally by: Spartan III Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting is for losers. Anti-piracy 4TW, way more risk, fun. You not only don't get that guilty feeling about killing some young noob, but you get a great feeling of pride that you stopped piracy. you have no idea do you. I havn't gate camped, but it looks boring. I have belt pirated and anti-pirated though. --- Wolven Elite Guard - Currently recruiting
EvilTwin I	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Spartan III Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting is for losers. Anti-piracy 4TW, way more risk, fun. You not only don't get that guilty feeling about killing some young noob, but you get a great feeling of pride that you stopped piracy. You watch too much "Opera" tvShows
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:19:00 - [26] Hey, Join corps like Tundragon for easy kills.These uber pvpers sit in .4 and lower due to having no security rating above -5.0...due to tanking sentries and popping people that fly through those systems.To top that off they normaly try to jam people. About the lamest thing in the EVE world is want to be pvpers like these.However some people get kills anyway they can.I suggest you join corps like these for "easy" kills.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.27 10:15:00 - [27] Gate camping is a bit too low. We do more sophisticated camping like this. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.03.27 11:13:00 - [28] Gate camps = Lame Killing noobs in belts = Lame Getting real fights, with equal numbers or slightly outnumbered = Ftw Fighitng others where all other factors are equalized, and it comes down to the pilots "piloting skills"(not skillpoints) = Ftw /Mav
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.27 12:54:00 - [29] Hey, The fact is I don't care what you DID and I'm sure if I looked at kb you been camping low sec gates longer than 2 weeks.So don't start the "we used to" rsponses.I hope to god teddy bears are not still in your ranks.What are you doing now though?Ganking noobie and people in empire, while tanking. LAME Also I have hard time beleiving that you ger your sec rating down to -10.00 and then go to 0.0 to kill all the time.I mean you don't or can't even war dec empire corps due to the fact I bet 95% can't go in empire higher than .4.So you sit everyday same spot killing noobies and such.Your cool and man it makes you look uber. Facts are facts.Sorry they hurt you so much.You want respect from anyone other than yourselfs telling each other your uber.Then fight real people, make damage known.Show facts of your 1 vs 1's, your alliances killed or +% ratio's. As of late. Until stfu and keep ganking empire dwellers. WW
Karistis	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:11:00 - [30] Edited by: Karistis on 27/03/2006 13:12:24 Edited by: Karistis on 27/03/2006 13:11:38 Originally by: Well wicked Hey, The fact is I don't care what you DID and I'm sure if I looked at kb you been camping low sec gates longer than 2 weeks.So don't start the "we used to" rsponses.I hope to god teddy bears are not still in your ranks.What are you doing now though?Ganking noobie and people in empire, while tanking. LAME Also I have hard time beleiving that you ger your sec rating down to -10.00 and then go to 0.0 to kill all the time.I mean you don't or can't even war dec empire corps due to the fact I bet 95% can't go in empire higher than .4.So you sit everyday same spot killing noobies and such.Your cool and man it makes you look uber. Facts are facts.Sorry they hurt you so much.You want respect from anyone other than yourselfs telling each other your uber.Then fight real people, make damage known.Show facts of your 1 vs 1's, your alliances killed or +% ratio's. As of late. Until stfu and keep ganking empire dwellers. WW I am probably just waisting my time by arguing with you, but when people shoot off their mouths without ANY facts AT ALL with an ALT,I tend to get really excercised, so here goes. You simply have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever been to Syndicate? have you ever seen one of their ops? Didn't think you had, because if you HAD seen them, then you wouldn't be shooting off your mouth. You would know to keep it shut, because you would have the facts. Exotic Dancers Club may gatecamp sometimes, but when I was on trial membership with them, there was a lot of fleet-fighting and small-group ops, where we would fight an enemy that outnumbered us 3 or 4 to 1 (as in, COMBAT FLEET vs COMBAT FLEET, not just mining barges). We frequently went up against anti-pirate corporations (usually the same ones) and won against them, despite being outnumbered and outgunned. Exotic Dancers Club is one of the best 0.0 pirate/PvP corps out there, so next time you shoot off your mouth about something, make sure you have facts. Engaging keyboard before brain is NOT a good idea. I will be more than happy to continue this debate ingame if you wish. _________________________________________ 2005.01.17 22:04:22 combat Chackle [PUSY] perfectly runs from you, wrecking for 1500 cowardice.
Superbus Maximus	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:33:00 - [31] Originally by: LWMaverick Gate camps = Lame Killing noobs in belts = Lame Getting real fights, with equal numbers or slightly outnumbered = Ftw Fighitng others where all other factors are equalized, and it comes down to the pilots "piloting skills"(not skillpoints) = Ftw /Mav Well its not often those fights happen you practically have to schedule it now a days, so I prefer the suprise omg im about to lose my ship sort of approach thanks. I dont feel like eve-mailing members of corporations well my group of 8 would like to fight your group of 8 on tuesday righty o pipp pipp and all that we'll meet you there.
Talon SilverHawk	Posted - 2006.03.27 13:38:00 - [32] Originally by: Spartan III Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting is for losers. Anti-piracy 4TW, way more risk, fun. You not only don't get that guilty feeling about killing some young noob, but you get a great feeling of pride that you stopped piracy. Gate camping and belt hunting is just as useful to anti piracy as it is to piracy or any sort of conflict TBH. Tal What goes around comes around
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.03.27 14:04:00 - [33] Originally by: Pa1nbringr low sec pirates have it easy So true =)
Hesed	Posted - 2006.03.27 17:08:00 - [34] More Newbies More Buccaneers More Mercenaries More Wannabes More Pirates More Miners More NPCers More Privateers +More Anti-Pirates More Targets
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.03.27 17:27:00 - [35] Originally by: Well wicked Hey, Join corps like Tundragon for easy kills.These uber pvpers sit in .4 and lower due to having no security rating above -5.0...due to tanking sentries and popping people that fly through those systems.To top that off they normaly try to jam people. About the lamest thing in the EVE world is want to be pvpers like these.However some people get kills anyway they can.I suggest you join corps like these for "easy" kills. Whats the difference between them and Ginger Magician?
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.28 09:27:00 - [36] Hey, Kar, bring it.I do have knowledge and have seen them at work.So before you post and make yourself look like an idiot; read the full thread top to bottom if your a.d.d. allows you. My orginal post was about Tundragons.Then I get a corp that's not much better in terms of ganking noobies; trying to smack for them or those type of lame ganking tactics in low sec empire.Or overall defend the stance of Lame tactics and gate camping noobies being LAME.Nice to know you defend this stance too. I don't care what you did on yuor trail memebership.I don't care what you were told the mining corps did to make you hunt them and feel ok.The fact fo the matter is when you look at the kills and 75% or better are in .4's etc.Ganks then thats LAME a simple fact.I also think I said IMO noobie.READ THE THREAD, and stop making a good corp look bad posting non-sense. People have different agenda's and thats fine.There are alot of tactics all these corps use that I would put right next to spawn camping a map of noobies when your skilled at the game.Then again you need to justify the end is some way so spin something else noobie. anything else? WW
Nicholai Pestot	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:06:00 - [37] Ok, im SURE i missed something in the middle of this thread...it started off with 'how do you guys belt pirate' and turned into some anti-pirate rant. Now thats all fine and dandy, it happens all the time, but there is normally a 'trigger' post that turns things sour.This thread just went from polite answer/question to personal attacks with no apparent midpoint ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:32:00 - [38] Hey, Please read the whole thread.Either that m8, or train up your reasoning to lvl 2 at least. The thread started with how do I get easy kills.People mentioned solo work etc. Corps and how their corps "do it".So I said "hey join tundragon they sit and camp .4's or lower most of the day".Sitting ganking noobies for the most part or pvp noobies. Thats easy kills tbh.:)Tanking and ganking noobies etc.They also are limited but to sit all day in .4 or lower while having -10.00 and nothing they can do about it. So I informed the OP of easy kills and how people get them.Wouldn't a good suggestion be to join a corp that kills that way?If so I was doing Tun a favour. anything else? WW
Nicholai Pestot	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:49:00 - [39] Originally by: Well wicked anything else? Yes, please train up reasoning to lvl 1 yourself, the thread went south long before you posted, though your contribution to the degredation is notable. ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete
Well wicked	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:51:00 - [40] Hey, Omg notable mention!!!! 4tw!!! also my flame was the best k :D only one that counted WW
Handon Guild	Posted - 2006.03.28 14:45:00 - [41] CHRIST Well Wicked!!! 1. Show us your real face instead of hiding behind an alt! 2. You know NOTHING of neither TunDraGon, Teddybears or Exotic Dancers Club judging from what you say! 3. When I joined TDG, they were strictly 0.0-based, killing everything, and today, point nr. 9 on the official eve map is STILL "pirate infestation" due to the presence of TunDraGon and Teddybears! 4. Get your facts straight, post with your main, and control your ignorance please ------------------------------------------------ A day of fun in Denmark
EvilTwin I	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:18:00 - [42] So where are all these easy pvp kills? 5-20km at every gate ! Yes ..Me down here <<< ..Flashing RED et1 " JOIN TWIN CORP "
Dirtball	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:24:00 - [43] Try Delve but watch out for Imp those are the only guys you have to worry about down there, everyone else will bring about 15 into local before they engage so you get plenty of warning.
Kyozoku	Posted - 2006.03.28 17:50:00 - [44] They're sitting in belts with local closed and 4 days experience under their belts.
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.03.29 01:25:00 - [45] Originally by: Spartan III Originally by: Izo Azlion Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting ftw. Gate camping is for losers. Belt hunting is for losers. Anti-piracy 4TW, way more risk, fun. You not only don't get that guilty feeling about killing some young noob, but you get a great feeling of pride that you stopped piracy. /gag Please. Here's the new antipirate channel: /join boredoffamyarse
idimmu69	Posted - 2006.03.29 04:48:00 - [46] Hey! Look it's Intera. I remember you from the other day. I loved your comment in local so much that I added it to my bio. Sorry for the podding, but I have an unhealthy obsession with corpses. idi
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.03.29 11:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Kyozoku They're sitting in belts with local closed and 4 days experience under their belts. But whats the point in going after new players? Surely they dont have anything worth looting?
Intera	Posted - 2006.03.29 11:56:00 - [48] Originally by: idimmu69 Hey! Look it's Intera. I remember you from the other day. I loved your comment in local so much that I added it to my bio. Sorry for the podding, but I have an unhealthy obsession with corpses. idi Glad to be of service :p Just to clear something up, I wasn't trying to cause any **** for you guys by talking on local, i was just asking wtf was going on because I had the impression that it was a friendly system and that since I'd already lost my Ferox to CN the day before we'd be somewhat even. I was wrong, of course.
lunafaerie	Posted - 2006.03.30 20:10:00 - [49] ok i would like to take this chance to apologise to nikolas i was told that ANYONE -5.0 or under was fair game in the sector we are talking about ...i am NOT a pirate nor have i ever been one it was a missunderstanding and i fully take responsibility for my actions my corp was not involved in these actions just the members that was there following my commands i hereby once again retract my actions and i am sorry for any missunderstandings (i lost a raven ffs) i hope this clears stuff up and btw niko has **** hot armour tank nice one!! peace out LUNA
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.04.01 11:22:00 - [50] Edited by: LUKEC on 01/04/2006 11:22:39 We do it this way: bubbles Oh and every gate looks similar too... I think someone tried to count bubbles deployed, but he gave up at number 70 Die, die, die.

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