They said they will make this game separate, and only later they will merge to EVE Universe

As said already, it is suppose to start out as a stand alone, separate game, based in the eve universe, that will then be integrated at a later point. Which makes a lot of sense. If they get it to market sooner rather then later, and it sells well they can get some money to toss at its development and help get eve and dust to where they can use this in that. And if it flops, then not a huge deal as they won't need people making updates for it.

In a business sense, you are perfectly right.

But that is exactly what we heard for DUST 514 and look at where we are at now.

It's been many months (anniversary coming up soon), but we still don't have any meaningful market integration between EVE Online and DUST 514.

They said at fan fest that they wanted the dust economy to stand on its own before they made the two complete. It could be they will announce that at fan fest? But lets take this way, so they made EVE VR (Valkyrie) as a side project to test the rift.. but when they had it at fan fest and other places, it was so popular that ccp said 'screw it, lets make it a game' Now lets say Dust is bombing (I have no numbers and when I played a few weeks ago I was in lots of matches with plently of people) So they green lite Eve:VR, but if dust was bombing, they would be size to do stand alone. Anyway, with everything things can change and I think I rambled lol

...Now lets say Dust is bombing (I have no numbers and when I played a few weeks ago I was in lots of matches with plently of people)

Here's the info http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust looks like 3000 people on constant rate

Historical campaigns from New Eden's history would be a great place to start.

Could we have a solid and great gameplay experience first and then see if and how it will tie into Eve?

This is exactly what we're super focused on doing right now :)

This is exactly what we're super focused on doing right now :)

Historical campaigns from New Eden's history would be a great place to start.

DaReaper, real time space integration with EVE would mostly require rewriting EVE for it to work with Valkyrie. Sadly, this is probably pretty unlikely within the next decade.

But stuff in "current day" could integrate characters, corps, economy, stuff could be built by EVE players, etc.

I could definitely see a historical game in singleplayer, and then something multiplayer that hits Tranquility.

Start it separate, but consider having the Valkyrie fights happen in incursion systems and that influence Sansha constellation control.

Start it separate, but consider having the Valkyrie fights happen in incursion systems and that influence Sansha constellation control.

all i can think is tidi dogfight

Well DUST is on tranquility and there is no tidi (there is sometimes lag, but nothing serous), so Valkyrie will be alright in tranquility too

the dfference however, is that dust is not battle on the ground at the same time as say the 2000 v 2000 fight is going on. But if the VR pilots are to be maning our fighters.... not you would have problems. But yea, boo knows

Why not, a new Eve Valkyrie drone / ship combination can actually be greatly beneficial. Not only to The EvE meta, but also to Valkyrie, and prospecting new players.

A few of my real life friends do not like eve, but they did enjoy games like tie fighter, freelancer etc, where you are in the cockpit, useing the controls to stear your ship in a much more direct way than you can in Eve. I like those games as well, but i also like Eve. For us, haveing a few hours as me as their designated home base while we scurry to do stuff in eve where they get to dogfight how they like, would most likely get them intrested in the EvE universe.

Personally i think that the more integration is done the better it is for each individual game, and the EvE Universe itself.

I can imagine in (the distant?) future a few EvE ships warping to a planet, launching their Dropships for Dust 514, and haveing a specialized orbital bombardment ship there, then suddenly another Eve Ship approaches, engageing them, but also Launching Valkyrie Fighters, wich then descent down into Dust 514 trying to shoot down the dropships, while the Dust 514 people on the ground try to shoot them down. The distraction of the air support allows the opposing Dust 514 team to move in and start the objective but then is suddenly bombarded by the EvE ship wich after that gets killed by another Eve Ship.

Multiple systems integrated, muchos fun, everyone involved, everyone able to play there prefered playstyles, and most importantly Everyone contributing to the EVE UNIVERSE SANDBOX.

This is exactly what we're super focused on doing right now :)

Sadpanda. As a DUST player, I think DUST's failure to build off EVE upfront is one of it's greatest weaknesses. It's retreading over the same territory CCP already tread over ten years, trying to catch up.

What could also be cool, is if carriers and supers had a new fighter type, the Valkyrie fighter, if a super launches these, then like the next 10 Valkyrie players that get on, jump into those, and they see the carrier/super's red as red, and get *target 1* when the carrier says engage target, but of crouse the Valkyrie drones are not ai controlled, so they can shoot any red. That would be my dream, you could eve have Valk pilots in your corp, so they can just jump in anytime you launch... that would be a neat feature, you can chose to use the standard AI drones, or use the player controlled ones. And ofc you could have a drone be a **** and turn around and shoot the ship that deployed it.

The biggest problem is that if you're going to connect it, they should be designed from the ground up to do so. Particularly with the way data structures are laid out and such.