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Darkblad
Hilfe is like free Entertainment
572
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:31:02 -
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With the Forum changes inbound, I hope that EVE Forums Gold will continue to work, as it appears like the quality of life forum you provide will not get implemented by CCP. I wouldn't even consider to use the forums without EVE Forums Gold. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
32
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Posted - 2014.10.10 07:41:04 -
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+1
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:41:31 -
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Hey folks!
I suppose I should probably have announced so, but I have recently taken a break from Eve. I'm back around now, and definitely looking to continue supporting EFG. Sorry about the absence, and I hope it didn't cause too much inconvenience. Look below for a couple of "news update" on the current state of EFG and its future.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:43:56 -
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EFG, Greasemonkey, and Firefox Support
Some of you may have noticed problems running EFG on Firefox using Greasemonkey. I can sum the situation up in two words: This sucks.
Apparently, in order to make extensions safer, the Mozilla development folks have decided to change the ways in which extensions interact with the page being viewed in Firefox. This in turn affects Greasemonkey and any scripts that run on top of it.
Eve Forums Gold accesses the page's jQuery, and uses it for reading, writing, and triggering callbacks on various actions (like clicking buttons). jQuery assumes it is not running inside an extension, and is not built to adhere to the new security requirements implemented by Firefox/Greasemonkey. As such, it is completely broken, rendering EFG completely broken as well in Greasemonkey, until I can convert it to stop using jQuery (possibly entirely).
In other, less techy words, EFG is no longer compatible with Greasemonkey, and by extension Firefox, for the near future. It sucks and I can't do anything about it right now. Sorry.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:48:24 -
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New EFG Hosting Location
Hosting on Dropbox was causing interesting issues with installing/updating the extension, so I got a rudimentary host from which to distribute EFG. It can be found here. Putting this up was a more involved process involving actually changing the way I manage version control, which is a positive change overall.
I will update the OP with this new information as soon as I finish posting news updates.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:07:45 -
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Forum Changes and the Future
There have been (gasp) changes announced to the way the forum works. I'm the last person who would complain about the forums getting less bad, but this has serious implications for EFG support. The announced changes look like they involve major restructuring of the way pages are built, with a possible significant change in Javascript interactiveness underpinning too.
What does this mean? When these changes arrive, EFG will in all likelyhood break horribly.
What does this mean for the future? The combination of CCP starting work on the forum again and the Firefox problems detailed in above posts demands a lot of involved changes to the code. It may be that a complete rewrite is in the works. Whether that happens or not, expect instability and downtime. I can't do anything about that, unfortunately.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 15:26:12 -
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Requested features/bugfixes as of today:
Critical:
- Restored Firefox/Greasemonkey support (!)
- New forum support (!)
- Un-jQuery everything
Eve Forums:
Weird behavior of image/video previews. "Go to last read URL" in Eve Gate as well as on the notifications in the forum Better ZKB support (no searching) No-Nom in "quick post" Prospector shortcuts to find Dev posts and other interesting posts (might not be relevant considering incoming forum changes) Prospector remember settings Features for the Favorites view [/list]
Eve Gate: See here
Right, that's all the updates I have for now. Cheers!
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HuGo87
Perimeter Defense Systems Templis CALSF
10
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:25:37 -
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Why not upload it to userscripts.org, or even better, github?
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:06:40 -
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HuGo87 wrote:Why not upload it to userscripts.org, or even better, github? userscripts.org doesn't quite provide the version control and automation I'd like. It also looks down right now.
Github would be optimal, but unfortunately due to some carelessness on my part, the git history of the repository contains my real name, which I would like to remain private. It's the same reason I haven't registered a domain for this particular server.
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
253
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Posted - 2014.10.12 04:33:09 -
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Keep up the good work, we will wait and see whats needed and what you come up with. |
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Ajantschin
Brigade of Guards Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.10.12 15:29:25 -
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Forum Enhancer wrote:HuGo87 wrote:Why not upload it to userscripts.org, or even better, github? userscripts.org doesn't quite provide the version control and automation I'd like. It also looks down right now. Github would be optimal, but unfortunately due to some carelessness on my part, the git history of the repository contains my real name, which I would like to remain private. It's the same reason I haven't registered a domain for this particular server.
and how about https://greasyfork.org ?
Proud member of the Frustrated Association of International Losers Failing Against the Gifted and Superior (F.A.I.L.F.A.G.S.)
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:47:13 -
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Ooh! This I like. I'll look into getting EFG on there.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.15 14:55:28 -
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The new forums are up at https://forums.testeveonline.com/. As EFG is currently written, it won't apply to them at all (as it's a different domain name). However, if you edit the script and add the following two lines in the header, you can make it apply to them:
I'm looking at the interaction of EFG and the new forums and it looks more and more likely that this is indeed the appropriate time for a from-scratch rewrite of EFG. Let me know if you all have any thoughts on the matter.
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
32
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Posted - 2014.10.15 14:58:45 -
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please dumb it down a bit ...some people here don't know how to edit scripts ...like that guy over there
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.15 15:09:33 -
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Amely Miles wrote:please dumb it down a bit ...some people here don't know how to edit scripts ...like that guy over there
- Click this button: http://i.imgur.com/vayLKwb.png
- Click "Dashboard": http://i.imgur.com/aK52RJL.png
- Click the EFG version you're using (there should really only be one installed): http://i.imgur.com/Ob9nBP3.png
- Add these two lines in: http://i.imgur.com/c3J9uh5.png
- Ctrl+S to save
- Go visit http://forums.testeveonline.com. EFG should now be active there.
If you would like to review my code, that is incidentally also how you do that.
As is, it looks like almost all EFG features got broken by the new forums. I'm keeping a tally and it's not making me very happy .
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
32
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Posted - 2014.10.15 15:59:39 -
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that one guy says thanks
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.15 16:10:58 -
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Amely Miles wrote:that one guy says thanks He's welcome!
Okay, I completed my inspection of what is/isn't working on the new forums.
- EFG Logo: broken
- Post prospector: broken
- User tagging: broken
- "Last read" link (on the post): working
- "Last read" link (in the notification menu): broken, but now redundant since the forum does it itself
- Skipping external link warnings: broken
- Canned posts: broken
- Hide locked threads: broken
- No-Nom: broken
- Author box link tweaking: working
- Author box DOTLAN/ZKB links: working
- Media preview: renders, but bugged
Looks like I got plenty of work ahead.
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Dragonaire
Here there be Dragons
64
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Posted - 2014.10.20 02:19:15 -
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Forum Enhancer - Just a quick comment on the worry about your real name in the git commits there are tools out there to filter and clean up things like that in the history you can use. There is other option which might be easier and since it looks like you probably are going to be doing at least some major changes anyway you might consider it. Just start the project fresh on Github and do a little copy and pasting of any files you want to keep out of the old git. Might be a bit of work but it would be a one time action and truthfully you are probably the only one that might want to use anything but your current release as it is Might even be a good place to start on what might become version 1.0
Finds camping stations from the inside much easier.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.10.20 21:12:51 -
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Update for you all:
It does not look like I will have something to put up immediately as the new forums get deployed. I will do my best to get everyone something ASAP, but unfortunately the forces of the universe have conspired to slow me down. Sorry!
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
32
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Posted - 2014.10.21 00:20:30 -
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thanks for the update keep up the good work
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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Alundil
Isogen 5
732
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Posted - 2014.10.21 14:15:41 -
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Amely Miles wrote:thanks for the update keep up the good work This. Your service is great, the updates on status refreshing and you have my appreciation.
I'm right behind you
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Mag's
the united
18098
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Posted - 2014.10.26 07:53:39 -
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Alundil wrote:Amely Miles wrote:thanks for the update keep up the good work This. Your service is great, the updates on status refreshing and you have my appreciation. This.
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It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2014.10.31 21:25:04 -
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Bad news. Firefox's obnoxious new security features are completely obstructing development and compatibility of EFG with Greasemonkey. Development for Chrome's Tampermonkey is unhindered, but this leaves EFG's future questionable, having to follow one of the following possibilities:
- Tell Firefox it sucks, permanently drop Greasemonkey support, and stick to Tampermonkey and Google Chrome. Downside: No Firefox support.
- Scrap EFG as a user script, and implement it instead as a separate extension for Firefox and Chrome. Downside: Outside my current expertise, and possibly outside the amount of effort I can/want to dedicate to it.
- Scrap EFG as a user script, and implement it on top of an existing cross-browser compatibility addon (Crossrider?). Downside: same as coding it as an extension of its own.
- Pass EFG to someone else who can dedicate the time/effort necessary to make it into what it deserves to be. Downside: who?
- Declare EFG dead. Downside:
I'm not sure where to go at this point, so I would like to ask you, the users, for your thoughts. So... Thoughts?
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
37
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Posted - 2014.10.31 21:43:52 -
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Since all options except number 1 lead to efg's death basicly i vote number 1
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
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Makari Aeron
The Shadow's Of Eve TSOE Consortium
131
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Posted - 2014.11.02 21:00:49 -
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Despite being a big fan of FF and using it as my main browser, I tend to browse the forums while at work so I use Chrome there. I'd just go with #1. Once you get that up and running if you have the time and feel like putting in the effort go for #2. Do what you know now and put out a complete, well made product now and do experimenting with new stuff later. Sure, it means you're doing things twice but if you decide you don't want to do a plugin-style later you already have a polished product.
CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
256
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Posted - 2014.11.03 05:10:42 -
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Go 1, I use chrome anyways ;) |
Forum Enhancer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2014.11.03 17:16:29 -
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I have also gotten some out-of-forums feedback supporting Option #1, so... Option #1 it is, then! Firefox/Greasemonkey are no longer supported! That felt good to say.
Dropping support for Firefox/Greasemonkey has allowed me to go back to the jQuery-enabled version of EFG and make it compatible with the new forums instead. Since I already had some progress towards doing that, I am happy to say that it is finished and version 0.4.0 is out! Summary of changes:
- Tweaks and fixes to almost all features to fix them for the new forum layout, link structure, etc.
- Added support for (forums/gate).testeveonline.com
- Fixed embedded media bug in which embedded images were not showing up properly.
- Added better handling and suppression of debug messages (you guys should not see unnecessary debug messages anymore).
- Added better error handling so a single feature breaking does not break the rest of EFG.
Enjoy!
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
256
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:02:33 -
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Forum Enhancer wrote:I have also gotten some out-of-forums feedback supporting Option #1, so... Option #1 it is, then! Firefox/Greasemonkey are no longer supported! That felt good to say. Dropping support for Firefox/Greasemonkey has allowed me to go back to the jQuery-enabled version of EFG and make it compatible with the new forums instead. Since I already had some progress towards doing that, I am happy to say that it is finished and version 0.4.0 is out! Summary of changes:
- Tweaks and fixes to almost all features to fix them for the new forum layout, link structure, etc.
- Added support for (forums/gate).testeveonline.com
- Fixed embedded media bug in which embedded images were not showing up properly.
- Added better handling and suppression of debug messages (you guys should not see unnecessary debug messages anymore).
- Added better error handling so a single feature breaking does not break the rest of EFG.
Enjoy!
Can you post a simple guide how to set it up again? - Ow its in your opening mssg, now have it again. |
mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
20903
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Posted - 2014.11.04 01:15:34 -
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this is an awesome program , just updated everythings fine my end , well done
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2618
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Posted - 2014.11.06 10:22:15 -
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Edited the thread title to reflect the new version number.
Sad to see support for FF has been dropped, but I do understand the decision. I have started to use Chrome to moderate the forum, just so I could continue using EFG! Yes, it's that good.
Ezwal tips hat to Forum Enhancer
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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