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Redwyne Vyruk
Tecniga Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.27 22:07:00 -
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Hi, i'll start with saying that english is not my language so i apologize if i make some error.I'm a new player (10M SP) and i'm mining hard in high-sec with 3 character (2 retriever (almost mackinaw) e 1 orca to buff and haul with max skill).Things are starting to become a little boring and my effort give me like 2-3b a month (a little more of what i pay in PLEX) so i was thinking about searching a Null-sec corp and try that part of this game, do you have some feedback?some experience like mine?some opinion of how my isk/h can increase? |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2693
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Posted - 2014.01.28 09:53:00 -
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Redwyne Vyruk wrote:some opinion of how my isk/h can increase? Do literally anything else than mining. |
Redwyne Vyruk
Tecniga Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.28 10:56:00 -
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mining requires very little attention and it's profitable and what other can i do in high sec?L4? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
93807
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:20:00 -
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Doing activities in Null pretty much requires becoming involved with a Null Sec Alliance.
You're gonna need about 25,000,000 SP first though. At least.
Better to continue learning the game in high sec for awhile and reading about activities in Null, so you better know what to expect. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Redwyne Vyruk
Tecniga Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:32:00 -
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a Null Sec Industry Corp/Alliance won't accept me before 25M SP? |
Thermopylaee
Executive Decision 666
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:37:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doing activities in Null pretty much requires becoming involved with a Null Sec Alliance.
You're gonna need about 25,000,000 SP first though. At least.
Better to continue learning the game in high sec for awhile and reading about activities in Null, so you better know what to expect.
I disagree with the SP barrier, that's too subjective. I agree you'll need SP in some amount though, so focus on fitting skills, chosen ship types, and weapon systems. As you begin seeking out good corporations to join, ask about their preferred "doctrine" ships and fittings (or those if the Alliance) so that you fit in and become an asset, not a liability. Whatever you choose, have fun ;-) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:18:00 -
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Thermopylaee wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doing activities in Null pretty much requires becoming involved with a Null Sec Alliance.
You're gonna need about 25,000,000 SP first though. At least.
Better to continue learning the game in high sec for awhile and reading about activities in Null, so you better know what to expect. I disagree with the SP barrier, that's too subjective. I agree you'll need SP in some amount though, so focus on fitting skills, chosen ship types, and weapon systems. As you begin seeking out good corporations to join, ask about their preferred "doctrine" ships and fittings (or those if the Alliance) so that you fit in and become an asset, not a liability. Whatever you choose, have fun ;-)
get frickin real
The SP requirement are all over the map. Derrrrrr.
But my collective memory of 5 years of EVE is that 25 M SP is about the expected average wanted by null corps.
Just another nit-picky Detail Queen who just has to type something to be typing something, huh ???
But at least your "expertise" is here to save the day, I guess.
And btw...........it's about a hell of a lot more than "Doctrine" too, so you have contributed nothing helpful here.
Ugh. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
661
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:21:00 -
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Redwyne Vyruk wrote:a Null Sec Industry Corp/Alliance won't accept me before 25M SP?
SP doesn't matter for joining many many null sec corps. I am head of recruitment for my corp. Attitude and willing to learn are the main features we look for. Other corps do have minimum SP requirements. What i can tell you is that an emphasis on your isk/hr is not something that would make anyone want to recruit you. null sec corps tend to have a purpose and require teamwork to achieve these goals. My corp is a small gang PVP corp and so we want people to join that like solo to medium scale spaceship fights. We have a few people that focus more on keeping the POS' running or stocking doctrine ships on contracts. You should be able to find corps that need miners (especially after yesterday lol) , they will most likely provide you with far better boosts but will expect you to sell to the corp at discount prices. Again they expect you to be part of a team rather than playing just for yourself. They will also expect you to at least join home defence fleets to fight off invading players. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Hello-There
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:25:00 -
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I'm guessing that the best way for a more casual player to experience null-sec would be through exploration?
If that is the case I would think training up exploration skills and relevant ships for your race would serve you better in this case.
Unless there are null alliances that acccept the more casual player but I have no idea how you would go about findign this out. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
661
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Posted - 2014.01.28 14:41:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:I'm guessing that the best way for a more casual player to experience null-sec would be through exploration?
If that is the case I would think training up exploration skills and relevant ships for your race would serve you better in this case.
Unless there are null alliances that acccept the more casual player but I have no idea how you would go about findign this out.
loads do. there is an entire sub forum for recruitment. There is an in-game recruitment tool. There is an in-game recruitment channel. Apart from call to arms no one really cares what you do. pvp centric corps will expect you to participate in fleets but no one expects anywhere near 100% attendance. tbh 10-20% attendance wouldn't be remarked upon in almost any null group. Exploration skills are useful though both as income (even pvp corps need to rat and similar to replace ships) and also for combat scanning. Provi block (amarr role players) are even less demanding and many corps there have almost no requirements.
Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
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Anogra
Strenus Custodes The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:21:00 -
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my corp has no sp requierments to our members aswell. attitude and willingness to work as a group count alot more then any sp amount!
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Alice Ituin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:17:00 -
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Redwyne Vyruk wrote:mining requires very little attention and it's profitable and what other can i do in high sec?L4?
Incursions highly profitable - requires some SP though
Trading highy profitable - requires patience (considering you are a miner I doubt you lack patience) and also some ISK to start with
Ganking If done right, can be quite profitable - requires almost nothing
Invention/Production No clue how profitable. not my area of expertise
Highsec *cough* "PvP" (aka, wardeccing carebear corps and camping their station) some people pay a lot for highsec mercs |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1414
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:27:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: You're gonna need about 25,000,000 SP first though. At least.
Better to continue learning the game in high sec for awhile and reading about activities in Null, so you better know what to expect.
This is a load of crap, especially if all you want to do is find a system to mine in. Just check out the recruitment forums, look for pve/industry based nullsec corps. You can find them as renters or as members corps of the bigger-name alliances. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Thermopylaee
Executive Decision 666
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:04:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Thermopylaee wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Doing activities in Null pretty much requires becoming involved with a Null Sec Alliance.
You're gonna need about 25,000,000 SP first though. At least.
Better to continue learning the game in high sec for awhile and reading about activities in Null, so you better know what to expect. I disagree with the SP barrier, that's too subjective. I agree you'll need SP in some amount though, so focus on fitting skills, chosen ship types, and weapon systems. As you begin seeking out good corporations to join, ask about their preferred "doctrine" ships and fittings (or those if the Alliance) so that you fit in and become an asset, not a liability. Whatever you choose, have fun ;-) get frickin real The SP requirement are all over the map. Derrrrrr. But my collective memory of 5 years of EVE is that 25 M SP is about the expected average wanted by null corps. Just another nit-picky Detail Queen who just has to type something to be typing something, huh ??? But at least your "expertise" is here to save the day, I guess. And btw...........it's about a hell of a lot more than "Doctrine" too, so you have contributed nothing helpful here. Ugh.
Wow, way to be a total jerk. Bet you feel real good about yourself given the anonymity of the Internet, huh? And given that you seem unwilling to even debate a topic as I started to do, I can only assume that anymore time bantering with you will be wasted (your own words must therefore be gospel and unequivocally correct, right?). So I'm done, thanks for shutting off all reasonable discussion.
Oh yeah, and concur with Batelle. |
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