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900V
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.27 23:33:00 -
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the title says it .... BOLD |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1848
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Posted - 2014.01.28 00:04:00 -
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They are doing something to reduce PLEX prices, they are decreasing nullsec bounty payouts.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
900V
Aliastra Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:09:00 -
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What I meant to say Raising* typo BOLD |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
2693
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Posted - 2014.01.28 07:43:00 -
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As far as I remember, the CCP PLEX prices haven't ever changed. What are you referring to? |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
19
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:55:00 -
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Plex prices are pegged to a couple major currencies, and so if you use minor currencies (i.e. not euro or USD) they will rise and fall based on exchange rates. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
erg cz
Sliperer
58
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Posted - 2014.01.28 12:38:00 -
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Few months ago PLEX costed about 500 - 550 Mio ISK. Now it is 650-700 Mio. Which means, that carebares like me found their way to make more ISK. Nothing else. CCP left PLEX prices to market and market slowly getting where it should be.
I dare to say, that average carebare get about 30 mio a day. One day 60 next day 0. Just multiply this to 30 days a month and you will get to the price about 1 bilion for 1 PLEX. It is the price, when carebares will rather pay for the sub instread of just PLEXing accounts for free. I think it is where we are going... |
Kryptik Kai
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
8135
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:02:00 -
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erg cz wrote: I dare to say, that average carebare get about 30 mio a day. One day 60 next day 0.
You're doing it wrong "Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |
900V
Aliastra Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:23:00 -
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CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago. BOLD |
Sarah Aeskiras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:42:00 -
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900V wrote:CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago.
And you also realize that EVE has had constant, very high levels of inflation, and some hyper inflation, in all aspects in the game pretty much since it's release right?
There's actually a term specifically for this happening in games, its called Mudflation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudflation
Happens in every MMO, just like in WoW how back in the day having a couple hundred gold you were one of the wealthiest players... now 100 gold is a pittance...
Doesn't have anything to do with manipulation. |
Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
150
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Posted - 2014.01.28 13:52:00 -
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wrong forum, stupid message with no evidence whatsoever etc etc.
try posting this in general discussion if you're trying to troll, generally people in MD know what supply and demand is |
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X ATM092
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
259
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:00:00 -
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900V wrote:CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago. The reason you can't afford PLEX prices is because you're a poor as **** scrub with no clue how to play this game. You want to know where the PLEX you need to sub your account is? It's in my hangar along with hundreds of others because I actually have the money to buy this **** because I don't make 30m/day like a fukcing moron. CCP didn't take it, I did and if you want to buy it off of me then you're gonna have to actually learn to play this game.
This is like the kids sewing shoes in sweat shops bitching that ipads are too expensive for them to buy so there must be an Apple conspiracy. |
Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
150
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:08:00 -
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damn X, do your hangars contain ointment as well?
he'll need it with that massive burn and all. |
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
130
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:58:00 -
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Plex hoarding is great. |
Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
30
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:34:00 -
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Blame the PLEX for Good program next. Hello ladies (and dudes pretending to be ladies)! Say hello to New Eden's 2nd hottest Intaki! It's me. You can say hello to me. Hi. |
MaD Missy
Shadow Legion X Li3 Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.01.28 16:47:00 -
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Do you guys think plex price will fall, since there is a Rubicon plex sale, or should i buy it now? |
Ritual Union
ykx ltd
27
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Posted - 2014.01.28 17:15:00 -
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Sarah Aeskiras wrote: And you also realize that EVE has had constant, very high levels of inflation, and some hyper inflation, in all aspects in the game pretty much since it's release right?
What?
oh boy
Sarah Aeskiras wrote: Happens in every MMO, just like in WoW how back in the day having a couple hundred gold you were one of the wealthiest players... now 100 gold is a pittance...
lol
Sarah Aeskiras wrote: Prices of older game goods go down in value, along with isk value, as the quantity and ease of generating brand new goods and isk rise.
On a somewhat serious note: How your post addresses the OP concern? The fact that he possibly made a fool of himself doesn't justify an equally foolish answer (don't get upset, I may be just trolling you, or maybe not - who knows?). Since it's getting harder to watch people blindly importing notions defined in one environment into a totally different one, let's take the "Reasoning 101 class".
Eve online:
- Is a game: you're not forced to play.
- ISK creation is player driven in the sense that is associated to each player effort.
- "God"(CCP) is changing the rules of the universe every 6 months.
- "God"(CCP) cares about you, though it has a strange way of showing it.
Real world:
- Is not a game: you're forced to "play".
- Currency creation is not driven by the actions of each individual.
- On our time scale, "God" doesn't change the rules of the universe.
- Contrary to what the church might be telling you, "God" doesn't need your money and "he" doesn't care about you.
How all this is relevant? Well, that's for you to figure it out. I can only help you so much. Back to OP concern: ISK plex prices. If back in the days (when plex was introduced) you could only use one plex per account in a month now you can use three(not counting the vanity stuff). I hope this helps. Is this in CCP's benefit? Of course it is. On one hand, people will buy more plex with real world currency (obvious benefit) and on the other hand, people will buy more plex with ISK (not so obvious, but this helps CCP's fight with the RMT people).
If this(see above) is what you meant with:
900V wrote:CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.
then you're right, they do. Anyway, what makes you think it isn't in their right to do so? Advertising Campaign: You will not click this link, you will block this character, you will leave a lame comment in local about this link, you will eve-mail me just to say that you don't care, and remember: under no circumstances you will click this link. |
brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
141
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Posted - 2014.01.28 17:25:00 -
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You do realize that players set market prices, not ccp... |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.28 17:56:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:They are doing something to reduce PLEX prices, they are decreasing nullsec bounty payouts.
That's why I need a new improved Standard Battlecruiser BH pilot and ship for buy and sell...
That and a new improved Fleet Commander for Strategic Group efficiency (all flown by myself). That should let me PLEX in complex or what not, and beat the NPC Pirates.
Hopefully increase my payout profit which will help decrease my price cost. |
Sarah Aeskiras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.01.28 18:02:00 -
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Ritual Union wrote:On a somewhat serious note: How your post addresses the OP concern? The fact that he possibly made a fool of himself doesn't justify an equally foolish answer (don't get upset, I may be just trolling you, or maybe not - who knows?). Since it's getting harder to watch people blindly importing notions defined in one environment into a totally different one, let's take the " Reasoning 101 class". Eve online:
- Is a game: you're not forced to play.
- ISK creation is player driven in the sense that is associated to each player effort.
- "God"(CCP) is changing the rules of the universe every 6 months.
- "God"(CCP) cares about you, though it has a strange way of showing it.
Real world:
- Is not a game: you're forced to "play".
- Currency creation is not driven by the actions of each individual.
- On our time scale, "God" doesn't change the rules of the universe.
- Contrary to what the church might be telling you, "God" doesn't need your money and "he" doesn't care about you.
How all this is relevant? Well, that's for you to figure it out. I can only help you so much. Back to OP concern: ISK plex prices. If back in the days (when plex was introduced) you could only use one plex per account in a month now you can use three(not counting the vanity stuff). I hope this helps. Is this in CCP's benefit? Of course it is. On one hand, people will buy more plex with real world currency (obvious benefit) and on the other hand, people will buy more plex with ISK (not so obvious, but this helps CCP's fight with the RMT people). If this(see above) is what you meant with: 900V wrote:CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. then you're right, they do. Anyway, what makes you think it isn't in their right to do so?
Sorry I should have included a Too Long;Didn't Understand section
OP states CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. I state that PLEX prices rise due to a devauling of in game currency (ie inflation) due to game mechanics that all MMO's encounter. Has nothing to do with CCP manipulation.
What is so hard to understand? I guess you need to take theat"Reasoning 101" class one more... or 10 more... times.
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Ritual Union
ykx ltd
27
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Posted - 2014.01.28 18:53:00 -
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Sarah Aeskiras wrote: OP states CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.
I state that PLEX prices rise due to a devauling of in game currency (ie inflation) due to game mechanics that all MMO's encounter. Has nothing to do with CCP manipulation.
Oh, wait. Stupid me. Now I got it: the (inflation) plex price rise is due to the inflation. Thanks for enlighten me. Now everything is clear: we have an egg because there was an egg there to begin with. It makes perfect sense.
p.s. I could post something more serious but I doubt it would do any good to you so I will not bother.
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
2006
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Posted - 2014.01.28 18:56:00 -
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X ATM092 wrote:900V wrote:CCP is manipulating PLEX prices. if you cant see that then there is obviously something wrong with your market window.plexes used to be 200m or so iirc some time ago. The reason you can't afford PLEX prices is because you're a poor as **** scrub with no clue how to play this game. You want to know where the PLEX you need to sub your account is? It's in my hangar along with hundreds of others because I actually have the money to buy this **** because I don't make 30m/day like a fukcing moron. CCP didn't take it, I did and if you want to buy it off of me then you're gonna have to actually learn to play this game. This is like the kids sewing shoes in sweat shops bitching that ipads are too expensive for them to buy so there must be an Apple conspiracy.
You forgot to add '' .. because i don't make 30/day like a ******* moron mining and missioning '' .... just trying to be helpfull lill me
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Sarah Aeskiras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:25:00 -
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Ritual Union wrote:Sarah Aeskiras wrote: OP states CCP is manipulating PLEX prices.
I state that PLEX prices rise due to a devauling of in game currency (ie inflation) due to game mechanics that all MMO's encounter. Has nothing to do with CCP manipulation.
Oh, wait. Stupid me. Now I got it: the (inflation) plex price rise is due to the inflation. Thanks for enlighten me. Now everything is clear: we have an egg because there was an egg to begin with. It makes perfect sense. p.s. I could post something more serious but I doubt it would do any good to you so I will not bother.
Probably not, no point continuing just to argue over a lack of reading comprehension. |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.01.28 19:42:00 -
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I forgot to mention
Zaltman metaphor elicitation technique (ZMET)
I must have saved it in another post and didn't publish it yet for some reason. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2787
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Posted - 2014.01.28 20:58:00 -
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Locked for rumors and ranting. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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900V
Aliastra Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:04:00 -
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i would like to thank trolls and would pat them on the back for actually trolling , you always make my day.Thanks for the giggles .
CCP can make alot of things ofc .They can rise plex prices, they can give you "pay to win items" , they can milk anyone till the mild dries out.With the current rise in plex prices, CCP is forcing people into 1 direction which is : "if you want to sub in the game , then we want to see your green bills and not the isk ." Why is that ? well, plex introduction goal was to give people a choice.It then turned devilish because effectivly they are forcing people into RMTing with them only, kinda like a monopoly or a legalized RMT. "oh looky i can just spend my RL ~18$ money to get 200m isk" : 2 years ago. "oh looky i can just spend my RL ~18$ money to get 660m isk" : 2 days ago. this intervention reminds me of the decision that was made by ccp to introduce pay to win items in a way or another. BOLD |
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