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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:21:00 -
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Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes...
Evidently shooting at mobile tractor units owned by a bear with drones out in aggressive mode will *no longer* cause his drones to attack the agressor.
Why?
Because gosh no you cant expect the little bears to use their brains and the right drone setting, they must be bubble wrapped to prevent an inventive pirate from getting a limited agression on them while they are farming mission sites.
I am really getting disgusted with this water-torture drip of hisec nerfs that keep coming and make it abundantly clear CCP has lost the plot. With each one of these it becomes clear they care more about aquiring WoW reject subs, than retaining mine.
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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
985
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:24:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes... Evidently shooting at mobile tractor units owned by a bear with drones out in aggressive mode will *no longer* cause his drones to attack the agressor. " Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target." Why? Because gosh no you cant expect the little bears to use their brains and the right drone setting, they must be bubble wrapped to prevent an inventive pirate from getting a limited agression on them while they are farming mission sites. I am really getting disgusted with this water-torture drip of hisec nerfs that keep coming and make it abundantly clear CCP has lost the plot. With each one of these it becomes clear they care more about aquiring WoW reject subs, than retaining mine. F
If they didn't want drones to behave that way, they should of just removed the aggressive setting of drones. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
654
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:25:00 -
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i hope this isn't true. was the best feature of the MTU even though i don't really PVP in high sec. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
838
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:27:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Because gosh no you cant expect the little bears to use their brains and the right drone setting, they must be bubble wrapped to prevent an inventive pirate from getting a limited agression on them while they are farming mission sites.
Never have used an MTU. I can salvage and loot my ****. I have these things on my ship called engines...
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
[Member of The BrownCoat Syndicate] |
Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
230
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:28:00 -
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Tears from the "HTFU" crowd, best tears. |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
1024
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:39:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes... Evidently shooting at mobile tractor units owned by a bear with drones out in aggressive mode will *no longer* cause his drones to attack the agressor. " Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target." Why? Because gosh no you cant expect the little bears to use their brains and the right drone setting, they must be bubble wrapped to prevent an inventive pirate from getting a limited agression on them while they are farming mission sites. I am really getting disgusted with this water-torture drip of hisec nerfs that keep coming and make it abundantly clear CCP has lost the plot. With each one of these it becomes clear they care more about aquiring WoW reject subs, than retaining mine. F waah waah, so much whine, Droens are a weapon system, when under green-flag in Crimewatch, it is SUPPOSED to not be possible to start limited engagements, drones circumvented that mechanic.
sorry that your easy-kill button is now working under game mechanics as they were implied to work.
(and no, i dont use drones, hate them for everything, but the people whining about why drones should circumvent crimewatch safety settings need to learn to find real kills instead of sitting aroudn waiting for stupid noobs with loot pinatas) |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4450
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:42:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:when under green-flag in Crimewatch, it is SUPPOSED to not be possible to start limited engagements
Wrong. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal |
ZynnLee Akkori
Perkone Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:42:00 -
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I agree! The tears of an internet 'gangsta' is sweet and goes down smooth. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2609
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:44:00 -
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Is there an official source? Oh god. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
656
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:45:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote: waah waah, so much whine, Droens are a weapon system, when under green-flag in Crimewatch, it is SUPPOSED to not be possible to start limited engagements, drones circumvented that mechanic.
sorry that your easy-kill button is now working under game mechanics as they were implied to work.
(and no, i dont use drones, hate them for everything, but the people whining about why drones should circumvent crimewatch safety settings need to learn to find real kills instead of sitting aroudn waiting for stupid noobs with loot pinatas)
Look i don't do much in high sec and while i like reading about the MTU stuff i really don't care. It is not true however that drones violated the green safety setting. Any weapon system fired at a suspect or criminal is allowed under green safety setting. aggressive drones under green will shoot criminals and suspects if they fire on stuff owned by you personally. It isn't hard and it isn't complex. If missioners can't either use passive drones or switch to passive when people invade their site then they are idiots who deserve to lose their ships. there is no reason to change this. again......i don't hunt mission runners and i don't use MTU. i have no horse in this race. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15625
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Posted - 2014.01.28 02:56:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Is there an official source? Rubicon 1.1 patch notes Hidden away towards the bottom of the fixes section
Quote:Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target. Nariya Kentaya wrote:waah waah, so much whine, Droens are a weapon system, when under green-flag in Crimewatch, it is SUPPOSED to not be possible to start limited engagements, drones circumvented that mechanic. You don't need to switch off the safety to engage a suspect, as such drones engaging suspects didn't bypass the safety. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Radiation Blues
947
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:11:00 -
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This is horseshit.
Yet another nail in the coffin that is being prepped for high security piracy.
vOv
::CCP:: Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1081
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:14:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes... So...
CCP adds a new toy. Toy is shiny and popular, and lots of people play with it. CCP doesn't like how some people are playing with the toy, and change is a little bit. The crying begins...
Dude. The toy is still there. It's just not as enticing as it was before - To you. Big Buff, followed by small nerf. Big flippin' deal - But you make it sound like the apocalypse. What's your issue? CCP isn't allowed to nerf anything unless you say so? Next, I supopse you'll want them to run Buffs past your for approval.
Patch Day whinging starts early. Feh. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
445
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:21:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes... So... CCP adds a new toy. Toy is shiny and popular, and lots of people play with it. CCP doesn't like how some people are playing with the toy, and change is a little bit. The crying begins... Dude. The toy is still there. It's just not as enticing as it was before - To you. Big Buff, followed by small nerf. Big flippin' deal - But you make it sound like the apocalypse. What's your issue? CCP isn't allowed to nerf anything unless you say so? Next, I supopse you'll want them to run Buffs past your for approval. Patch Day whinging starts early. Feh. Its not about one thing, its about being slow boiled as described here Would you like to know more? |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1082
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:25:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes... So... CCP adds a new toy. Toy is shiny and popular, and lots of people play with it. CCP doesn't like how some people are playing with the toy, and change is a little bit. The crying begins... Dude. The toy is still there. It's just not as enticing as it was before - To you. Big Buff, followed by small nerf. Big flippin' deal - But you make it sound like the apocalypse. What's your issue? CCP isn't allowed to nerf anything unless you say so? Next, I supopse you'll want them to run Buffs past your for approval. Patch Day whinging starts early. Feh. Its not about one thing, its about being slow boiled as described here I see.
And your railing in GD is going to change that presumed fate (if indeed you're even remotely correct - Which I doubt)... How?
The windmills are thataway, don Quixote ==> Tell Sancho Panza I said hello. |
Arthur Aihaken
State Protectorate Caldari State
2842
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:25:00 -
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Yes, I liked how they snuck that little gem into the update without any fanfare... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
948
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:27:00 -
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So the OP is whining because he can't pick on newbs with Drones 1 in hi sec.
I'll start the slow clap...feel free to join in.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1082
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:29:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:So the OP is whining because he can't pick on newbs with Drones 1 in hi sec.
I'll start the slow clap...feel free to join in.
can't do it... I'm too overwhelmed by the sadness and despair of the OP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKffm2uI4dk |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4451
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:30:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:So the OP is whining because he can't pick on newbs with Drones 1 in hi sec.
I'll start the slow clap...feel free to join in.
New players run missions in multi-billion isk marauders. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
357
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:30:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Yes, I liked how they snuck that little gem into the update without any fanfare... Yay paranoia.
It was completely predictable that they'll fix it ... one way or the other.
It's too late to make a fuzz about it. Should have done that earlier. EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1082
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:33:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Nexus Day wrote:So the OP is whining because he can't pick on newbs with Drones 1 in hi sec.
I'll start the slow clap...feel free to join in.
New players run missions in multi-billion isk marauders. Anyone with that kind of ISK and SP who is dumb enough to fall for the MTU Drone gambit, is dumb enough to fall for any number of other gambits. MTUs were never supposed to be "Easy" buttons for gankers. Get with the program. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
357
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:35:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:This is horseshit.
Yet another nail in the coffin that is being prepped for high security piracy.
vOv
::CCP:: Blame yourself. And the others. EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
983
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:40:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Nexus Day wrote:So the OP is whining because he can't pick on newbs with Drones 1 in hi sec.
I'll start the slow clap...feel free to join in.
New players run missions in multi-billion isk marauders. Was it only used against multi-billion isk marauders? |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
977
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:40:00 -
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How is this a nail? I mean seriously. Before Rubicon you never could do this. CCP's intent is that they have to press a button to start a limited engagement. I have no issues with that, it brings drones in line with every other weapons system, rather than drones having aberrant behaviour with the MTU's & other deployable's. You can still steal their loot, suspect bait them then bump them while yellow to try and taunt them into shooting like you had to before Rubicon.
So yea, HTFU Pirates, this one isn't a slow boil. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
357
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:42:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:How is this a nail? I mean seriously. Before Rubicon you never could do this. CCP's intent is that they have to press a button to start a limited engagement. I have no issues with that, it brings drones in line with every other weapons system, rather than drones having aberrant behaviour with the MTU's & other deployable's. You can still steal their loot, suspect bait them then bump them while yellow to try and taunt them into shooting like you had to before Rubicon.
So yea, HTFU Pirates, this one isn't a slow boil. I agree. What got removed is something that wasn't there before anyway so there's no real harm done. EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
845
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:44:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Its not about one thing, its about being slow boiled as described on my blog.
So you want us to read your blog? Why didn't you just say so? "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
[Member of The BrownCoat Syndicate] |
Yosef Brinalle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:46:00 -
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comment edited for being wrong |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
357
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:50:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Its not about one thing, its about being slow boiled as described on my blog. So you want us to read your blog? Why didn't you just say so? It's not worth reading it.
If he used half a brain cell he'd understand that something got added and removed again, which is completely different from having something changed/removed that was there for a long time. It doesn't matter anymore anyway ... now it's too late! EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
4814
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:53:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:I am really getting disgusted with this water-torture drip of hisec nerfs that keep coming and make it abundantly clear CCP has lost the plot. With each one of these it becomes clear they care more about aquiring WoW reject subs, than retaining mine.
Can you describe the scenarios that existed before the MTU was introduced that enabled you to trick aggressive drones into shooting you without the operator's direct instructions to do so?
As a comparison, can you describe a scenario in which you can trick a mission runner's turret or missile systems to shooting you without the operator's direct instructions to do so?
I'm just trying to educate myself on this topic. Thanks for your help! Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
stoicfaux
3965
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Posted - 2014.01.28 03:59:00 -
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OP angry because OP needed a PvE mechanic to initiate PvP?
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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