What, you mean fixing the drone weapon system so it acted like the safety settings mentioned is something you didn't expect to happen?

See this is why you get your kicks shooting people that never realised the safety setting didn't extend to agressive setting drones. .

Get over it and move on to your next low risk pvp escapade.

Sorry brother loot is not an ISK faucet. You either sell the loot for ISK already in the economy or reprocess it and sell the minerals for ISK already in the economy. As it is not a faucet a lack of it can not be a sink.

If they didn't want drones to behave that way, they should of just removed the aggressive setting of drones.

Fair enough. I will admit when I am wrong. Also a little inebriated, lol.

That is the problem when people selective quote, though. However, the question remains the same.

When does the nerfing stop?

Does it stop with completely safe-sec?

Or does it just balance itself over time?

All MTU crap aside. Because aside from the market, I am not sure I have even seen one of those things. Like ever.

First of all, reverse tears are always delicious.

Having said that, I will have to agree with what Riot Girl said here. I have not witnessed the mechanic myself, but I remember reading an article by Marlona Sky some days ago, and agreeing with its conclusion.

The MTU+drone thing added a good chunk of player generated content and interaction, while also giving the opportunity for some very nice possibilities for PvP if it persisted - like pirate baiting for example. It also helped missioners become more engaged and conscious of their surroundings, using their drones actively instead of ascribing to a semi-passive farming mentality.

Its a mechanic that will be missed.

Hmm

Why cant guns be set to aggressive and autoshoot any suspects near me?

Oh wait, because that would be bot aspirant behaviour

Hmm

I wonder if I can have my cake AND eat it?

+1.



-1. Safety should be green if you are following all required Standards and Practices for safe mining



-/+ D6. If the "defenseless" gankees operated in accordance with the afore mentioned Standards and Practices then the pvp escapades would become higher risk. Would the gankers be expected to move on then?

FoF missiles would have done the same thing, it is just they are rarely used unless you are disrupted.
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I love the quote thing with scores and stuff. Just rolled an imaginary dice and scored a number, w00t came out positive :D

In answer to your question, I expect high sec gankers to do 2 things.

1: If they gank for no risk pvp lolz/tears then they'll rage on forums if the targets get assistance with anything. In fact I reckon if their was a tutorial to show n00bs how not to be ganked I think someone would still moan about it.

2: If they gank for profit they'll move on when it's no longer profitable and whine on the forums.

There is a pattern.

On a side note, I do not support the expectation complex many players have in high sec. I do however understand the irony that most of the people attacking that complex in fact have their own.

I have no idea. Never use the things because my ship has engines and I can scoop up loot and salvage myself without dropping a stupid vacuum cleaner in space. I also do not have drones set to aggressive because I don't trust drones any more than I trust the Gallente.

As far as this particular "nerf". it was initially a buff to HS PvP by enabling PvP enthusiasts to force a limited engagement on mission runners dumber than me (which is a lot). So I really don't see it as a nerf as much as a return to how things were pre-Rubicon but with a stupid "vacuum cleaner in space".

I do, however, agree with this:

Why can't the HTFU mentality apply to gankers as well? Also, it doesn't make any sense for drone settings not to extend to MTUs. They want actual pvp easy kills to happen (or at least coordinated ganks), not people getting baited by obscure mechanics that don't make any sense.

See, I can agree with this as well. Because It forces the baiter to either:

A - Fleet up, promoting social interaction in a MMO, which is important.

B - Fly with more risk, as anti-piracy could become yet another viable profession (Finally...)

As for the drones themselves, they are set to toggle that way, and to be quite honest, while aggressive should protect a player deployable of any kind, to not only promote PvP, but also to tie into the vibe of "capsuleer conquest" they have prepared for us in their "vision."

Because the way they have been marketing the game, it makes sense that all of space is a battleground...not just null-sec, and not just low-sec.

well done CCP :)

I hope CCP will do everything possible To move Pirates and gankers out of High Sec

Next Step : Insta Concord in 0.5 , 0.6 etc etc 1 volley and Boom

but striking that right balance so that the game offers a little bit for everyone is more important than HTFU.

well done CCP :)

I hope CCP will do everything possible To move Pirates and gankers out of High Sec

No one cares

Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes...

Evidently shooting at mobile tractor units owned by a bear with drones out in aggressive mode will *no longer* cause his drones to attack the agressor.

" Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target."

Why?

Because gosh no you cant expect the little bears to use their brains and the right drone setting, they must be bubble wrapped to prevent an inventive pirate from getting a limited agression on them while they are farming mission sites.

I am really getting disgusted with this water-torture drip of hisec nerfs that keep coming and make it abundantly clear CCP has lost the plot. With each one of these it becomes clear they care more about aquiring WoW reject subs, than retaining mine.

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Well, looks like afk/bot farming with drones now has the official stamp of approval.

well done CCP :)

I hope CCP will do everything possible To move Pirates and gankers out of High Sec

Next Step : Insta Concord in 0.5 , 0.6 etc etc 1 volley and Boom

These are the people CCP wants to cater for.

These are the people CCP wants to cater for.

We are all handed the same tools.

It is not the fault of the ganker that the individual miner did not choose to have a logi on field.

It is not the fault of the baiter that the missioneer did not have an Orca in system to reship and hunt down his suspect prey.

And it is not the fault of a group of pirates, working in sync, that whoever did not fleet up in a multiplayer game.

Everything has a counter, for the most part.

Just a shame that it has become so divided that people choose not to see that.

Well its clear CCP has given up the ghost on the HTFU core that made EvE great, as well as documented in detail here they are now doubling-down on Disneyland with the next patch that has a little more nerfing for the little carebears of hisec buried in the patch notes...

Evidently shooting at mobile tractor units owned by a bear with drones out in aggressive mode will *no longer* cause his drones to attack the agressor.

" Drones that are set to aggressive will no longer perform automatic actions against a target if those actions would trigger a new Limited Engagement, unless explicitly instructed to engage that target."

Why?

Because gosh no you cant expect the little bears to use their brains and the right drone setting, they must be bubble wrapped to prevent an inventive pirate from getting a limited agression on them while they are farming mission sites.

I am really getting disgusted with this water-torture drip of hisec nerfs that keep coming and make it abundantly clear CCP has lost the plot. With each one of these it becomes clear they care more about aquiring WoW reject subs, than retaining mine.

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