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Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:52:00 -
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I've spent the last couple if hours trying to recuperate a granted item (Civilian Salvager) which was granted to me for the 2nd Business mission (Balancing The Books). I accepted the mission, took the salvager with me, made the 2 jumps and was ambushed upon entering the final location (0.9 sec zone, Clacille) . The first hit took all my shields out and half of my inner circle. I tried jumping out but couldn't, the second hit destroyed my Venture. I managed to get back to my station with my pod.
My problem is that I cannot get a second Civilian Salvager, it's not on the market and the next step up is the Salvager 1 which I purchased without checking the training skill book which costs 1mil ISK, more than I have.
Any help solving this would be appreciated. Is there something I'm missing here? |
Sir Jack Falstaff
30plus Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.01.28 21:58:00 -
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File a petition in the help channel. A GM will likely get you your civ. salvager back. They're pretty responsive. Just explain the situation. Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world. |
gfldex
693
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:07:00 -
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Hit F12 and find Create New Support Ticket. Select Game Play and Agent mission in progress. Explain the situation and ask to have the mission reset.
EDIT: Ohh, and welcome to EVE. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain. |
Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:13:00 -
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Thanks, ticket submitted. |
Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:17:00 -
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Impressive,.... Issue dealt with within a minute of my ticket submission. New Civilian Salvager in my hangar.
Thank you GM Luthor. |
Winter Archipelago
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:43:00 -
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Glad the petition worked!
For what it's worth, while you're still in the rookie systems, you can also get a bit of help from the vet players. If you post a line (politely!) in Local asking for a bit of assistance and why, some of those veterans might be sympathetic and be willing to help you out. Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Ships, Mods, and Dolls. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1863
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Posted - 2014.01.28 23:15:00 -
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Note that GMs will help you in the newbie missions (up to and including the Sisters of EVE epic arc) by resetting missions that the actions of other players cause you to fail.
This is not the case for normal missions. If, for instance, you rescue the Damsel in one of the standard security missions, then someone blows up your ship and the Damsel is destroyed, you will have to accept the consequences of failure. (Generally speaking, one failed mission costs you about the standings gains from 15-20 successful ones, but there is little or no ISK loss).
IIRC you will be given the Salvaging skillbook once you complete the current mission. It's a good way to make your first ten million ISK - after that, you should look for more lucrative ways to get ahead.
There are a couple of rules pirates like myself know of about attacking new players in rookie systems (it's banned but it sounds like you were attacked elsewhere). Your missions are not instances - other players can probe them down, say hello, steal loot from NPC ships you have killed, and even attack you (although in highsec, doing so will get CONCORD, the space police, to come and destroy us, possibly before, possibly after we would destroy your ship). https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
Ekkentros Mercari
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:05:00 -
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I'd be interested to see why a ganker thought it was in their interest to blow up the Nevil's venture when it seems it held nothing of value. I can only assume that he aggressed in some way? If so, I'd recommend he try to figure out what happened to prevent it from happening again. TL;DR: Don't reply. |
Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:17:00 -
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I've thought about it for a bit and am wondering if I didn't read the fine print in the mission. There was a stipulation about ship restrictions which I did not follow, I went in with my Venture not knowing that it was limited to rookie ships (Velator). In my inexperience, I honestly couldn't tell whom was firing at me.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1864
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:24:00 -
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Ekkentros Mercari wrote:I'd be interested to see why a ganker thought it was in their interest to blow up the Nevil's venture when it seems it held nothing of value. I can only assume that he aggressed in some way? If so, I'd recommend he try to figure out what happened to prevent it from happening again.
Ventures are often used to transport high value small volume items in lowsec, due to their fast aligning and inherent warp strength. Before I could fly an interceptor, I often carried 200-800m in BPOs in a Venture, going to lowsec copy/research stations.
Popping a Venture is a bit of a lucky dip at times - usually you get nothing, sometimes you get a big payout. I'd personally always check the pilot ago before popping them, however. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
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Ekkentros Mercari
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:29:00 -
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Nevil Sylveste wrote:I've thought about it for a bit and am wondering if I didn't read the fine print in the mission. There was a stipulation about ship restrictions which I did not follow, I went in with my Venture not knowing that it was limited to rookie ships (Velator). In my inexperience, I honestly couldn't tell whom was firing at me.
As far as I can recall, Ventures are fine for any rookie mission (well, you can enter the missions, whether or not you can kill the requisite NPCs is another matter). Even if you can't get in with it, you'll simply get a message box you can't enter the mission area with taht calss of ship and you'll simply need to get another. You will NOT be blown up for trying to enter a mission with a restricted ship.
Do you recall doing anything out of the ordinary? Did you see a yellow container in space and loot from it? Have you ever shot at another player? Were you in a player corp at the time?
I know the answer to these questions is likely to be "no", but I'd figure I should check. Would you mind sending me your lossmail? If you don't know what that is or how to send it, contact me in game. I'm online with this character at the moment. TL;DR: Don't reply. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1864
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Posted - 2014.01.29 00:34:00 -
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Nevil Sylveste wrote:I've thought about it for a bit and am wondering if I didn't read the fine print in the mission. There was a stipulation about ship restrictions which I did not follow, I went in with my Venture not knowing that it was limited to rookie ships (Velator). In my inexperience, I honestly couldn't tell whom was firing at me.
Check your Character Sheet - Combat Log.
You will see who killed you on it. (You'll have a 'lossmail' for the engagement in there).
That said there is indeed an intro mission where you will lose your ship and the text warns you about that (and advises you to use a rookie ship). https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
Ertur Adestur
Hek Xplo Ltd
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Posted - 2014.01.29 02:48:00 -
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I remember the mission the OP is reffering to, and it does require you to kill one NPC. Not sure if that ship is powerfull enough to kill a Venture that quickly though. The lossmail should answer that.
Anyway, good questions asked by Ekkentros Mercari. Keep them in mind for later. |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 03:01:00 -
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It's entirely possible that the OP was killed by an NPC. I'll check the CAS killboard as soon as I finish downloading that 1GB patch. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.01.29 03:34:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:It's entirely possible that the OP was killed by an NPC. I'll check the CAS killboard as soon as I finish downloading that 1GB patch.
General killboard search showed blank stats, so not likely it's a player kill (as most players who actively engage in PvP keep a record of that through killboard stats - because L33T PvP stats is what EVE is about for some).
Could as well be one of the 2 suicide tutorial missions. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 04:10:00 -
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Sorry for the late reply.
I checked the show losses under the combat log and it states the following,...
' Venture (8 hours, 6 minutes,.... ) Serpentis [ ] Inferno Light Missile
So it does appears I was hit by an NPC. Do they usually inflict that kind of damage in one shot? I wonder if the Velator would of stood a better chance of surviving than the Venture. Considering I'm going back in to finish the mission, what steps can I take to better my odds? |
Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 04:15:00 -
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Thanks to all for the replies, for such a cut throat game, the help I've been getting has been outstanding.
To answer Ekkentros Mercari, yes I do know not to mess with the yellow loot containers. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2264
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Posted - 2014.01.29 06:22:00 -
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Ekkentros Mercari wrote:I'd be interested to see why a ganker thought it was in their interest to blow up the Nevil's venture when it seems it held nothing of value.
Being that gankers who target newbies are the living embodiment of nothing of value, it's probably the manifestation of their own inner self-loathing. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1866
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Posted - 2014.01.29 06:36:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Ekkentros Mercari wrote:I'd be interested to see why a ganker thought it was in their interest to blow up the Nevil's venture when it seems it held nothing of value. Being that gankers who target newbies are the living embodiment of nothing of value, it's probably the manifestation of their own inner self-loathing.
Funny, I answered this question before.
Other than an Interceptor or a Cov-Ops, there is no better ship than a Venture to move medium value BPOs through high and lowsec in. It's more likely to hold valuable cargo than many other ships. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
Ekkentros Mercari
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.29 09:23:00 -
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I happened to run the same mission as Nevil last night. It had one NPC that would hit for 1-2 damage.
The only thing I can think of is that you may have warped to an anomoly? I honestly can't see how that mission rat could have possibly killed you :-s TL;DR: Don't reply. |
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Silmas Feanarius
iFly Holdings Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.01.29 15:38:00 -
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Maybe belt rats spawning on gates? Can't remember if npc gate camps happen in hisec too, but sure they happen in null. Even a 0.9 belt rat could do a lot of damage to an untanked, unskilled venture like the OP's most probably was. Need more well-formatted linking.
Swearing in Sardinian. |
Nevil Sylveste
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.29 16:10:00 -
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Completed the mission today, the final destination was different from the location where my Venture was destroyed. In hindsight, it appears I somehow warped to the wrong location in my initial attempt. Thank you all for the help. |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2014.01.29 16:41:00 -
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Silmas Feanarius wrote:Maybe belt rats spawning on gates? Can't remember if npc gate camps happen in hisec too, but sure they happen in null. Even a 0.9 belt rat could do a lot of damage to an untanked, unskilled venture like the OP's most probably was. There are no belt rats in 0.9, they start in 0.8.[1] And as far as I know there are no rats on gates in high-sec.[2] Finally, high-sec rats are pretty weak, in no way would they "instantly" kill a venture.
I think Ekkentros' guess of the OP accidentally warping to an anomaly is probably the best theory so far.
-- For new players:
[1] - in 0.8 and below systems, NPCs will sometimes randomly spawn in asteroid belts and attack miners. (This can even happen in missions with asteroids.) In high-sec, they are usually weak and can easily be killed, even by a Venture with its two drones, but the lower the security rating, the stronger they become. In null-sec, they have battleships.
[2] - in low-sec and null-sec, sometimes similar NPCs spawn on a gate, although they rarely are a problem, as they are to slow to catch you. (Unless you autopilot.) But they can make it a bit of a hassle to fight or wait on a gate. I heard that when there's an incursion in the system, they become much more of a problem. |
Jacksol Darnson
Miner's Guild
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Posted - 2014.01.29 16:49:00 -
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Nevil Sylveste wrote:I've spent the last couple if hours trying to recuperate a granted item (Civilian Salvager) which was granted to me for the 2nd Business mission (Balancing The Books). I accepted the mission, took the salvager with me, made the 2 jumps and was ambushed upon entering the final location (0.9 sec zone, Clacille) . The first hit took all my shields out and half of my inner circle. I tried jumping out but couldn't, the second hit destroyed my Venture. I managed to get back to my station with my pod.
My problem is that I cannot get a second Civilian Salvager, it's not on the market and the next step up is the Salvager 1 which I purchased without checking the training skill book which costs 1mil ISK, more than I have.
Any help solving this would be appreciated. Is there something I'm missing here?
I had no problem finding a replacement for mine but I guess I cud sell you my extra one? (just need to figure out how to send one to a player) |
Ertur Adestur
Hek Xplo Ltd
24
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Posted - 2014.01.29 16:50:00 -
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I have seen rats on gates in hisec, once or twice in six months of playing. So it happens, but seems to be rare. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1874
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Posted - 2014.01.30 03:06:00 -
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Incursion systems get unusual belt rats in them that will slaughter a newbie. Though I'd find it odd if a newbie mission occurred in an incursion system. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you. |
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