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Stabdealer Tichim
Hedion University Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:00:00 -
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The game is dying, has entered its end game cycle.
Whenever there is a collation fields 1000 supers+capital ships, there is no way to effectively counter it other than "a greater capital blob". This is literary an "end game" mode for a mmo.
When a power block can automatically win the way by accumulating capital and super capitals, there is no intelligence left in the game. Maybe in real life it's real, but EVE is a game anyway, a strategy game, why letting it work like a terrible rmt game that people who spend more isk will just win.
And also all bad things work together: terrible sov system, power projection and unlimited blobing, and null is on its way to blue donut, then what will we left up to?
One of the most important fun source of the game, that is sov warfare has been exhausted, we can hardly find any fun by playing the sov warfare.
I might consider to unsub as the game has lost its fun. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
70
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:11:00 -
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N3PL sure did win...
Oh. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4258
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:17:00 -
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Stabdealer Tichim wrote:The game is dying, has entered its end game cycle.
Whenever there is a collation fields 1000 supers+capital ships, there is no way to effectively counter it other than "a greater capital blob". This is literary an "end game" mode for a mmo.
When a power block can automatically win the way by accumulating capital and super capitals, there is no intelligence left in the game. Maybe in real life it's real, but EVE is a game anyway, a strategy game, why letting it work like a terrible rmt game that people who spend more isk will just win.
And also all bad things work together: terrible sov system, power projection and unlimited blobing, and null is on its way to blue donut, then what will we left up to?
One of the most important fun source of the game, that is sov warfare has been exhausted, we can hardly find any fun by playing the sov warfare.
I might consider to unsub as the game has lost its fun.
You know, when the jedi were disbanded and the republic fell, I'm sure it looked like the end to anybody involved in that storyline.
And yet CCP is providing more tools to harass nullsec with. (hint hint) |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4825
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:35:00 -
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Obvious CFCSTAIN alt pretending to be an obvious N3PL alt is obvious. . |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10025
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:38:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Obvious CFCSTAIN alt pretending to be an obvious N3PL alt is obvious.
Well he isn't wrong, it wasn't our subcaps that snapped your back. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
3434
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:47:00 -
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Now would be a good time for some Eve historians to tell us the story of BoB. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
484
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:54:00 -
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1/10
There's always a SUPERCAPS ARE OP, EVE IS DIEING thread every year. |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
132
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Posted - 2014.02.02 06:58:00 -
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May I appropriate thy belongings in thy unequivocal departure? |
Tore Vest
362
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Posted - 2014.02.02 07:30:00 -
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I feel sorry for you goons + alts
Have to pet your own back all the time No troll. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8892
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Posted - 2014.02.02 07:44:00 -
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Ship attributes are set in stone and can never be changed once introduced. My EVE Videos 59-15 |
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3876
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Posted - 2014.02.02 07:49:00 -
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Stabdealer Tichim wrote:The game is dying
Thank God for that.
Now I can have my life back.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Annathalia Blood
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2014.02.02 08:16:00 -
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Stabdealer Tichim wrote: I might consider to unsub as the game has lost its fun.
INB4 anyone else.
Can I have your stuff ?
EDIT:
DAMN I wasnt first :( |
Sacu Shi
Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing
16
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Posted - 2014.02.02 08:38:00 -
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Can I haz your stuff?
oh... |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1040
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Posted - 2014.02.02 08:40:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Now would be a good time for some Eve historians to tell us the story of BoB. You mean how someone used metagame to destroy them in reality and not pure force of arms? There hasn't been a mega alliance go down to pure force of arms without significant metagame behind it. N3/PL's latest defeat included. Unless we are meant to believe that they had been manually paying the sov bills for years and magically forgot this one. And I don't think many people are that dumb. There was Meta involved. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1596
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Posted - 2014.02.02 08:52:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Now would be a good time for some Eve historians to tell us the story of BoB. You mean how someone used metagame to destroy them in reality and not pure force of arms? There hasn't been a mega alliance go down to pure force of arms without significant metagame behind it. N3/PL's latest defeat included. Unless we are meant to believe that they had been manually paying the sov bills for years and magically forgot this one. And I don't think many people are that dumb. There was Meta involved. Yeah, autopay usually doesn't take a holiday. And CFC / RUS just happened to be fleeted up to take advantage :) |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Space Hobos Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
435
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Posted - 2014.02.02 09:08:00 -
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Eve has been dying since Beta.
At least Eve hasn't gone the way of literally every other MMO with power creep. Devs: "Ohh everyone is starting to get to that point where they all have the top end gear? Lets release a patch/expansion raising the bar, making even more powerful gear attainable".
Caps, supercaps, and titans are all on the teiricide/rebalancing block after pirate ships and T3s, and I am 90% sure that supercaps and titans will get something equivalent to a nerf.
While I do understand where you're coming from, I will agree to disagree . . .
. . . although I'm just some guy in a dead alliance. What do I know? Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
MasterAsher
Sons of The Forge SpaceMonkey's Alliance
11
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Posted - 2014.02.02 09:39:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Eve has been dying since Beta.
At least Eve hasn't gone the way of literally every other MMO with power creep. Devs: "Ohh everyone is starting to get to that point where they all have the top end gear? Lets release a patch/expansion raising the bar, making even more powerful gear attainable".
Caps, supercaps, and titans are all on the teiricide/rebalancing block after pirate ships and T3s, and I am 90% sure that supercaps and titans will get something equivalent to a nerf.
While I do understand where you're coming from, I will agree to disagree . . .
. . . although I'm just some guy in a dead alliance. What do I know?
How do you nerf titans more? Even fonzie has said if titans where any other ship they would have been buffed long ago.
Supers though probably will be nerfed to the ground. |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Space Hobos Inc. Test Alliance Please Ignore
435
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Posted - 2014.02.02 09:52:00 -
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MasterAsher wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Eve has been dying since Beta.
At least Eve hasn't gone the way of literally every other MMO with power creep. Devs: "Ohh everyone is starting to get to that point where they all have the top end gear? Lets release a patch/expansion raising the bar, making even more powerful gear attainable".
Caps, supercaps, and titans are all on the teiricide/rebalancing block after pirate ships and T3s, and I am 90% sure that supercaps and titans will get something equivalent to a nerf.
While I do understand where you're coming from, I will agree to disagree . . .
. . . although I'm just some guy in a dead alliance. What do I know? How do you nerf titans more? Even fonzie has said if titans where any other ship they would have been buffed long ago. Supers though probably will be nerfed to the ground.
'If titans were any other ship' . . . that's the point, they aren't any other ship, they are titans.
Also if Fonzie said it then it would have involved a lot more 'Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh's. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
Roxie Glitz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:15:00 -
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I've never seen a capital ship, except one moros undocking from jita4-4, I live in highsec you could also start a highsec carreer |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
2401
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:28:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:1/10
There's always a SUPERCAPS ARE OP, EVE IS DIEING thread every year.
Every five minutes lately. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
792
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:30:00 -
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Hmm... Up in lowsec I haven't had any 1000 man cap fleet problems yet. Is it broken? "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
65
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:38:00 -
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Wow, NPC corp and flying capitals! You need to write a book! I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
2153
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Posted - 2014.02.02 10:49:00 -
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Supercaps online has been a ****** game since 2010. One of Eve's defining qualities is its ship and module variety allowing paper/rock/scissors on a vast scale. Supers have unbalanced that aspect of the game for years now; the only thing that has changed is those whom now wield that unbalanced stick.
We told you so, now reap what you've sown. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3810
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Posted - 2014.02.02 14:37:00 -
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Eve is dying Online, 10 years and still dying. |
iskflakes
889
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Posted - 2014.02.02 16:06:00 -
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Supercarriers, dreads and carriers are well balanced as it is. They all have good counters and good strengths. Titans are too weak in normal play and too strong in extreme TIDI (and are heavily underused).
In extreme TIDI every module takes 10 minutes to cycle. Your reps cycle once and so does a doomsday. This means in a TIDI fight the team with the most titans wins every time. What N3/PL hate is the idea that numbers win every fight. That's how the game is right now. THIS is what's broken.
A counter to numbers is remote reps with well tanked ships. That counter breaks in extreme TIDI because of titans, so as long as goons are willing to use their titans, numbers will always win.
How do we fix this? Not easily. Game mechanics need to discourage TIDI fights by splitting sov objectives up. Capital ships need more options to disengage and escape from fights after they have taken significant losses (like a subcap fleets can do). The doomsday could be given a faster cycle time with reduced damage to minimize the TIDI advantage. Titan hulls could also be reduced in size by 75% and given a damage boost to make them more useful in normal play (e.g. they could actually come on a structure grind OP).
Short of major mechanics changes the subcap world will always be dominated by numbers, and that makes me a bit sad. - |
Aiwha
Trans Secunda Nulli Secunda
706
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Posted - 2014.02.02 16:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Obvious CFCSTAIN alt pretending to be an obvious N3PL alt is obvious. Well he isn't wrong, it wasn't our subcaps that snapped your back.
Yeah, that's because GSF isn't very good at EVE. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
193
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Posted - 2014.02.02 17:03:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Obvious CFCSTAIN alt pretending to be an obvious N3PL alt is obvious. Well he isn't wrong, it wasn't our subcaps that snapped your back. Yeah, that's because GSF isn't very good at EVE.
Quick someone take a screen shot of nobody C teamer Nulli S2N trash talking the Master of CFC. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6164
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Posted - 2014.02.02 19:46:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Aiwha wrote:baltec1 wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Obvious CFCSTAIN alt pretending to be an obvious N3PL alt is obvious. Well he isn't wrong, it wasn't our subcaps that snapped your back. Yeah, that's because GSF isn't very good at EVE. Quick someone take a screen shot of nobody C teamer Nulli S2N trash talking the Masters of CFC. Curiousity makes me ask this question. Oh brave and wise S2N member. What would you be with out NC. still failing at Faction Warfare no doubt. lul. Interesting perspective on current events. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
337
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Posted - 2014.02.02 20:56:00 -
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Stabdealer Tichim wrote:One of the most important fun source of the game, that is sov warfare has been exhausted, we can hardly find any fun by playing the sov warfare.
Never done sov warfare and, like the OP says, I've never enjoyed one of the most important fun source of the game. I hope one day to experience game's most important fun source so I can start having fun. One day. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
783
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:14:00 -
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Is it nerf supers time of year again?
This is like an annual thing. |
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