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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:50:00 -
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Why does the Nestor have a shuttle if you can't board it? Oh god. |
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
116
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:58:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up.
Ok, I say again. Waste of man hours better spent elsewhere. |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
3937
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:27:00 -
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Kaerakh wrote:Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up. Ok, I say again. Waste of man hours better spent elsewhere. Empathy is great, truly an understated virtue far too often.
I bet the devs appreciate that people want them to make the most productive possible use of their time as well.
That said, I would suggest avoiding trying to second guess any issue with the reason being too expensive in time for the devs. I think they can make this determination without our help.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2412
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Posted - 2014.02.04 19:34:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up.
Repackage it and keep it in your hold then. |
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
506
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:27:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Cyndrogen wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Sure, no problem, and easily balanced.
For each shuttle clamped onto the BS, have it occupy a high slot.
In theory, you could have a BS with zero DPS but 8 shuttles attached. Troll. Really? Offering a suggestion rather than mocking an idea is the new definition of troll? You are suggesting the addition of an effective Ship Maintenance Bay, capable of launching a pilot-ready ship, and you consider paying for it by using a high slot to be so ridiculous, that you refer to the person as a troll for even suggesting it? Consider this, Cyndrogen, if your idea has value, and adds to the functionality of a BS, why should it be free? And a single high slot is hardly a crippling price to pay, not even claiming a hard point here.
I didn't take his comment seriously because he sugested no DPS and 8 shuttles attached. I'm not looking for modules to attach to my ship I'm looking for a simple SHUTTLE BAY, a space inside the ship to store a shuttle. Not a module. There is a difference. |
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
506
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:29:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up.
You get it. |
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
506
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:30:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up. Repackage it and keep it in your hold then.
You missed the part where I want to store 500m3 worth of ammo instead of a shuttle. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2418
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Posted - 2014.02.06 01:00:00 -
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Cyndrogen wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up. Repackage it and keep it in your hold then. You missed the part where I want to store 500m3 worth of ammo instead of a shuttle.
And you feel you should have this ability because...?
Hell, just buy a damn shuttle on the local market wherever you end up. The bloody things are everywhere. |
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
3937
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Posted - 2014.02.06 01:09:00 -
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Cyndrogen wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Cyndrogen wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Sure, no problem, and easily balanced.
For each shuttle clamped onto the BS, have it occupy a high slot.
In theory, you could have a BS with zero DPS but 8 shuttles attached. Troll. Really? Offering a suggestion rather than mocking an idea is the new definition of troll? You are suggesting the addition of an effective Ship Maintenance Bay, capable of launching a pilot-ready ship, and you consider paying for it by using a high slot to be so ridiculous, that you refer to the person as a troll for even suggesting it? Consider this, Cyndrogen, if your idea has value, and adds to the functionality of a BS, why should it be free? And a single high slot is hardly a crippling price to pay, not even claiming a hard point here. I didn't take his comment seriously because he sugested no DPS and 8 shuttles attached. I'm not looking for modules to attach to my ship I'm looking for a simple SHUTTLE BAY, a space inside the ship to store a shuttle. Not a module. There is a difference. The point was being able to store a shuttle requires external bay access. Thus, a single high slot would be needed for a single shuttle. This is the same regardless of whether the shuttle is in a docking clamp, or like missile systems, an internalized storage with simply an exit point for launching.
IF you wanted 1 shuttle, 1 high slot would be needed just like a launcher uses, but minus the hardpoint requirement. If you had 8 slots, you could use all 8 for shuttles, not that this is practical or how you would choose to fit a BS. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2959
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Posted - 2014.02.06 01:56:00 -
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Considering shuttles are 500m3 packaged, why do we need 5,000m3?
Do we really need to fit the whole assembled shuttle in there, when you can assemble it in space anyways? Or did CCP change that? Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
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Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:52:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Kaerakh wrote:Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up. Ok, I say again. Waste of man hours better spent elsewhere. Empathy is great, truly an understated virtue far too often. I bet the devs appreciate that people want them to make the most productive possible use of their time as well. That said, I would suggest avoiding trying to second guess any issue with the reason being too expensive in time for the devs. I think they can make this determination without our help.
Nice sentiment, but Danika pretty much makes my point as to why it's a waste of time.
Danika Princip wrote:Riot Girl wrote:The point is having a Leopard available to use wherever you dock up. Repackage it and keep it in your hold then. |
Arthur Aihaken
State Protectorate Caldari State
2879
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:23:00 -
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Of all the ships that *should* have had a shuttle bay, the Nestor definitely qualifies... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
265
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Posted - 2014.02.06 05:50:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Considering shuttles are 500m3 packaged, why do we need 5,000m3?
Do we really need to fit the whole assembled shuttle in there, when you can assemble it in space anyways? Or did CCP change that? iirc the shuttle is 5000m3 when assembled, iirc all Ship Maintenance Bays are set in a size based on assembled ship size, and this for all intents and purposes is pretty much a request for a pre-nerfed Ship Maintenance Bay on all BS ships, only large enough to fit an assembled shuttle.
Needs to be assembled size so that you can re-insert the shuttle in space, and then enter the BS. |
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
515
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:21:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Of all the ships that *should* have had a shuttle bay, the Nestor definitely qualifies...
Agree, it would be nice to have one for the Nestor. |
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
515
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:31:00 -
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Kaerakh wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Kaerakh wrote:*Hops in his shuttle and flies to X.* *Extensive GIA network receives word I hopped out of my (insert expensive faction battleship name).* *GIA operative hops in my ship.* *I come back sad faced.* Maybe dock up before switching ships? Then what's the point? I can just buy one or pod surf which is arguably safer. The pod has the fastest alignment time in the game, and a 600 m/s top speed isn't going to save you from a gate camp full of 1km/s+ mwd ships. This idea has literally no point and just wastes man hours for trying to make the game more like Star Trek.
POD 2 AU/sec Leopard 20 AU/sec
Math it's important. Speed = ISK. |
Thoregon Aubaris
Very Drunken Eve Flying Instructors Brotherhood Of Silent Space
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Posted - 2014.02.16 07:05:00 -
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As long as the shuttle can't be used to save a gank BS from Concord +1. When the great game of chess is over, kings and pawns end in the same box. |
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