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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.04 12:58:00 -
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First things first, the fanboi' stop reading.
What this thread is about is the ramifications of the attack on EC. Now i dont care about the alliances involved and there politics.
what im after here is to discuss SHAREHOLDERS
With the recent taking(almost or whatever) of the outpost, what does that mean for the rest of the industrial alliances with IPO's and the such like?
Obviously BOB have proved there easy walk overs. I'd like to ask what kid of plan the alliances have in place for the worst happening.
Do the shareholders just lose out and its tough luck kthx goodbye?
Or do the indi alliances have some other measures in place?
What of the value of existing shares? as i was looking at the sell orders forum, a potential customer asked in a thread what guarantees they get if the outpost is under attack?
I open these questions to the wider community
--------------------------------------------- If im flaming or not contributing im sorry, but im trying to get into th [23]
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 04/04/2006 13:10:36 I never got my money back
Obviously BOB have proved there easy walk overs. I'd like to ask what kid of plan the alliances have in place for the worst happening.
You mean, easy walkover for BoB?
This operation has costed more than you, or your whole ass corp has ever seen isk. addition to that, it also caused damage tenfold to that.
They maintained full siege 23h/day and still doing it while systematickly killing posses - all that at expense of RL time of the playsers.
NO it was not easy walkover - thats why we did it! BoB dont do easy stuff, we do stuff, and we make it look easy
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:06:00 -
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The shares, I imagine, works just as in real life. You take a risk in losing your entire investment should the bottom fall out of their value, while reaping the rewards should the shares explode in their worth.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:06:00 -
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Might get lucky and sell the outpost back :P Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Alberta
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:06:00 -
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Share of the profit, share of the risk. People may have to defend their investments I guess.
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:12:00 -
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I don't really consider it an investment, so much as a subsidy to build an outpost. If it pays back returns great. ------- K. Raven
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:14:00 -
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SELL SELL SELL. Market crash iminent.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 04/04/2006 13:15:01 anyone selling trust shares at uber low prices?
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Aceformat
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:15:00 -
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Yup I agree, in a sense what has happened here happened to all those investors in the internet in 1999 ... all you money just went outta the window!
Of course, if the outpost did return to its original owners, would the payouts restart or has it gone for good?
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Minerma
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:16:00 -
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no offence dude but this topic is one of the most useless ive ever seen on these forums...and im using kind words here. i mean you cant find an answer yourself to these so called "questions" ?!?! Or you expect maby ISS/others to come and post here theyr master uber plan to stop a take over like this to happen ?!?!
Now be a man and ask for a lock yourself.....
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 04/04/2006 13:10:36 I never got my money back
Obviously BOB have proved there easy walk overs. I'd like to ask what kid of plan the alliances have in place for the worst happening.
You mean, easy walkover for BoB?
This operation has costed more than you, or your whole ass corp has ever seen isk. addition to that, it also caused damage tenfold to that.
They maintained full siege 23h/day and still doing it while systematickly killing posses - all that at expense of RL time of the playsers.
NO it was not easy walkover - thats why we did it! BoB dont do easy stuff, we do stuff, and we make it look easy
yeah my bad for spelling and clarity errors. im typing fast at work...
when i said walkover i meant it in a purely military fashion, i understand the logistics/man hours that went into it and respect that.
--------------------------------------------- If im flaming or not contributing im sorry, but im trying to get into th [23]
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Scalor Valentis Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 04/04/2006 13:10:36 I never got my money back
Obviously BOB have proved there easy walk overs. I'd like to ask what kid of plan the alliances have in place for the worst happening.
You mean, easy walkover for BoB?
This operation has costed more than you, or your whole ass corp has ever seen isk. addition to that, it also caused damage tenfold to that.
They maintained full siege 23h/day and still doing it while systematickly killing posses - all that at expense of RL time of the playsers.
NO it was not easy walkover - thats why we did it! BoB dont do easy stuff, we do stuff, and we make it look easy
yeah my bad for spelling and clarity errors. im typing fast at work...
when i said walkover i meant it in a purely military fashion, i understand the logistics/man hours that went into it and respect that.
that means the security of POS is not so shabby after all?
I mean, for now ISS can rest ashured for safty as many bob memebers own shares from there...
shuld you start seing bob alts selling shares - then you need to worry ^__^
As far as it go, ill say investors can rest at peace, as long they arent investing into enemys of BoB; like G alts *cough* TRUST [23] Member: BoB Alt whoe
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Buster Gonads
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis
BoB dont do easy stuff, we do stuff, and we make it look easy
Thats the dummest thing I ever heard. You didn't make it look easy - in fact you made it look like a pigs-ear. All you did was cram as much hardware into the system as possible, knowing IRON/G were elsewhere, then all you had to do was log-on and wait. Wow, I'm impressed! Not.
Don't hijack a perfectly reasonable thread about investments in outposts under attack by , rimming BoB. Both I and know your claims are exhaggerated and were it not for V, FE and ASCN, BoB would more than likely have failed in this endevour.
As to the OP, the value of your investment may go down as well as up.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Minerma no offence dude but this topic is one of the most useless ive ever seen on these forums...and im using kind words here. i mean you cant find an answer yourself to these so called "questions" ?!?! Or you expect maby ISS/others to come and post here theyr master uber plan to stop a take over like this to happen ?!?!
Now be a man and ask for a lock yourself.....
so asking what the wider implications of this action is pointless? Now i could run around evemailing people but then the information woldnt be available to everyone would it, oh and of course it wouldnt be a discussion.
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Wee Dave
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:31:00 -
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They didn't take the TRUST outpost just for jollies. It was strategically important. Neither ISS Marginis nor ISS Borealis are strategically as attractive as TRUST.
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Dogo Duma
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dogo Duma on 04/04/2006 13:48:13 gah. nvm.
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.04.04 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wee Dave They didn't take the TRUST outpost just for jollies. It was strategically important. Neither ISS Marginis nor ISS Borealis are strategically as attractive as TRUST.
Welcome to the same delusion afflicting half of the people who read these boards.
The only things that were strategically significant in EC- were the capital shipyards. The outpost is not strategically significant in any way whatsoever. It does not provide a better base to attack the north than Torrinos and in any other sense it is essentially undesireable.
I would be surprised if BoB bothered to put up more than a token defense of the Outpost after they are done.
Anyhow RE: OP. The station will almost certainyl get retaken by TRUST in the near future. If this doesn't happen though then the shareholders are holding worthless shares.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Niraco79
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Posted - 2006.04.04 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Niraco79 on 04/04/2006 14:09:27 Edited by: Niraco79 on 04/04/2006 14:08:47 or BoB and us will buy all the shares at extra low prices and we will own Trust and take their company in the south to make us Motherships ________________ THE MEGA NOOB |
Ka Ten
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Posted - 2006.04.04 14:13:00 -
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Trust never sold their shares to the public, now i no nothing about trust but i would imagine the only shareholders in trust are the actual members who funded their t2 bpos and in the grand scheme of things trust continues to make billion of isk per day. so their shares might dip invalue abit if they exist but realistically this means very little to trust as they have stated on several occasions
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2006.04.04 14:24:00 -
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Redundant thread.
Click. ___
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BALR0G
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Posted - 2006.04.04 14:37:00 -
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If you think PvP alliances in EvE will allow the so-called "neutral" station building alliances to set up business without interference you're just plain crazy.
If you're investing in any of those station building alliances you'd better keep one eye on local politics so you'll know when to bail out.
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