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Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:38:00 -
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When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.
So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes? |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:40:00 -
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you have to make them yourself Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
181
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:47:00 -
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Because Eve players tend to shoot innocent statues in Jita when CCP announces big new features |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
465
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:53:00 -
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Just wait. You'll see. EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
Sand Shardani
Amarrian Merchant Solutions New Eden's Misfits Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 15:58:00 -
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The butterfly effect isn't just something that happens in game between players. Developers have to be careful of changes as even a small change can have a huge impact on the game. Make a large change and it is very likely that unforeseen problems arise and break the game play state.
And they do make big changes. See Wormholes... |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:06:00 -
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"you have to make them yourself "
->Which often leads to Concord getting u. Or when posting in Ideas and features, ignored until u give up.
"And they do make big changes. See Wormholes..."
-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.
"Just wait. You'll see."
->ive been waiting along time, others have been waiting much longer than me and they have lost their faith.
"Because Eve players tend to shoot innocent statues in Jita when CCP announces big new features"
-> Of course People will b!tch, one of the fun features of humans, Some will always complain, they dont like changes.
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Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:19:00 -
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Youngins these days....
There have been lots of big fun changes, you just haven't been aroiund to remember them,
Battleships (they we so big and awesome in the day) Ships bigger then battleships (A carrier was WOW, now titans are eh) Warp to 0 (not so much for gatecampers) T2 blueprint lottery (If you were a winner) Learning skill removal (Millions of SP to reallocate for those that invested to level V) |
Sand Shardani
Amarrian Merchant Solutions New Eden's Misfits Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:22:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:"you have to make them yourself "
-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.
Aint that impressive? They added 1500ish systems, that can only be accessed through scanned down wormholes, with NPCs that have AI, and you aren't impressed?
Please, enlighten us with what you think a big change is? Because 10 years and 20 expansions have brought a lot of big changes. |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
228
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:24:00 -
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"Which often leads to Concord getting u. Or when posting in Ideas and features, ignored until u give up."
that's just in high sec, and there's ways to go around Concord (wardecing is one).
Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |
Centis Adjani
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:26:00 -
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Oh, CCP do a lot of fun changes all time.
The last one was to reduce warp speed of Orca, Battleships, Battlecruisers from 3.0 to 2.0/2.5. This 30%! speed reduction (BS) really take a lot of fun away if flying BS and BC. 'Great' fun changes like this happen all along. |
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Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:30:00 -
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Sand Shardani wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.
Aint that impressive? They added 1500ish systems, that can only be accessed through scanned down wormholes, with NPCs that have AI, and you aren't impressed? Please, enlighten us with what you think a big change is? Because 10 years and 20 expansions have brought a lot of big changes.
1500... and most have been settled or have traces of human settlement. What about adding a New Galaxy With New races? Or expand the Galaxy With 50000 New systems, not even named, where players need to explore and give name to.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
9935
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:33:00 -
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Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:36:00 -
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Oh, CCP do a lot of fun changes all time.
Fun for them yes.... |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:41:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4584
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:49:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment.
Some people get mad when i tell people they are in the wrong game.
Well, can I tell this guy he's in the wrong game or not?
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Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:54:00 -
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If Mittani does not approove it...it wont happen. |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment. Some people get mad when i tell people they are in the wrong game. Well, can I tell this guy he's in the wrong game or not?
U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right? |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.02.05 16:56:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment. Some people get mad when i tell people they are in the wrong game. Well, can I tell this guy he's in the wrong game or not?
Lets hold hands and tell him together.
Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Sand Shardani
Amarrian Merchant Solutions New Eden's Misfits Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:00:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment. Some people get mad when i tell people they are in the wrong game. Well, can I tell this guy he's in the wrong game or not? U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right?
So you want a new game every year? I am confused now. |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:03:00 -
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"Lets hold hands and tell him together.
[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"
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"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"
Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
8921
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:05:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Just wait. You'll see. Promises were made. Only time will tell if they'll keep true to their word. My EVE Videos 59-15 |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Awakened.
1355
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:10:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote: So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?
Because they are afraid of making mistakes or breaking the game. +1 |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2897
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:10:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote: As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment.
Some people get mad when i tell people they are in the wrong game. Well, can I tell this guy he's in the wrong game or not? U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right?
I rent a car for 5 years, and I take it on trips, racing, break it once or twice, mod it a bunch, and take it to a demolition derby. It's a beat up piece of junk, but that was fun as hell. The car is not fancy, but it was made to take all that and much more, which is why I look forward to another 5 years owning it. Additionally, the company who makes it doesn't make new models; they constantly put out new small parts and attachments instead, to keep it running and make it do more stuff.
My friend also rents, but he gets a new car every year. These cars are more fancy, and drive around all comfy-like, but he can only do what it was meant for: drive it around. It just doesn't work otherwise. It looks very shiny, and he laughs at my "pile of junk", labeling the crazy fun I'm having with my car as Stockholm syndrome.
Eve is the former, other MMOs are the latter. If you are looking for the latter, kindly go play another game. I suggest Guild Wars 2. They constantly put out "big features" that give you new NPCs to punch, but do not advance player interaction at all (which remains quite stale). If you would like the former, I suggest grabbing a cheap ship, taking some risks, and leaving hisec. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:13:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right?
if aye pay fer car aye donet wan it two bee a motore byke neckst weak |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:14:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
"Lets hold hands and tell him together.
[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"
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"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"
Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.
too late this thread is now about spiderman aww **** can't put pictures here..
Billy McCandless wrote: if aye pay fer car aye donet wan it two bee a motore byke neckst weak
LOL Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
432
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:17:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:Because Eve players tend to shoot innocent statues in Jita when CCP announces big new features The latest expansions where mostly about massive bugfixes and revisions of existing game features. And that was a good thing, eve is in a much better shape than some years ago and the to-do-list is still long (UI, Sov mechanics, Ship tiericide, Pos'es, etc.). The next "Jesus-Feature" you're looking for will perhaps be the announced Stargate construction by players. But that will take a while the statue shooting had little to do with the upgrade / new feature itself, more with the micro transaction plan that leaked....
it just happened at the same time, and thus the event was also used to make CCP aware that many players were not fan of the WIS.....but the main issue was the micro transaction thingy
also, reagarding OP, with the few they add / change, they already lanage to screw up unrelated things big time, and there are STILL many problems that are simply ignored by CCP, so before they add any candy looking things, i really hope they do take care of those issues FIRST |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2897
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:24:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote: Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.
We're serious about the ridicule too. Changing out a sandbox's sand every year or dropping in big rocks isn't very conducive to letting the people playing in it building/blowing up sandcastles. It just gets in the way.
Removing turds and adding in little bits of sand now and then is fine though, and that's what CCP are already doing.
In other words and without hyperbole: you're not getting a debate about the lack of changes because the lack of frequent earthshaking changes is intentional and everyone posting here supports it. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10078
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:27:00 -
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The ship rebalances have been the biggest changes to EVE in a long time. The cruiser teircide provided a huge amount of content. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4006
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:28:00 -
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Adding Concord was a pretty big change.
As to whether it was a fun one or not is still up for debate.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Plug in Baby
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
127
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:39:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote: "And they do make big changes. See Wormholes..."
-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.
You cannot be serious! I'm as bitter as they come and I safely say that Apocrypha was the last expansion to this game and a damn good one at that. How can you say it wasn't impressive? ~2500 new systems with mechanics completely unlike the rest of space, new ships more different that ever. + All the standard fixing + PVE rubbish.
More content than we've seen in the 4 years since. Granted a lot of re balancing was needed (and asked for), but I don't even want to think about how much devtime was sunk into Incarna and Dust. This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main. |
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