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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:06:00 -
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Break all highsec connections between empires.
For example you would have to travel through lowsec from Minmatar to Gallente. Same from Minmatar to Amarr and so on.
Allow highsec connections to only interempire region jumps.
For example you could jump from Metropolis to Heimatar by using highsec connection, but then if you would like to move towards Sinq laison, you would have to cross the dangerous lowsec.
1) Jita's value as largest hub would decrease, because you couldn't run freighters easily with alts.
2) It would make life on lowsec space much more interesting
3) It would spawn up a real need for escorting your haulers and freighters
4) Use of jump freighters would increase, however, it's expensive to use them
5) There has been similar changes in the past, like Jitas connections have been changed few times.
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
455
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:12:00 -
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must have mutli pipe systems otherwise you got to many rancer type system maybe , or im total wrong i dunno The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Esha Ditrix
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:15:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:or im total wrong no, i think you are completly right, i still like the general idea though Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it... |
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:15:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:must have mutli pipe systems otherwise you got to many rancer type system maybe , or im total wrong i dunno No, you are correct. Great wildlands have these pipes, and they are good. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1178
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:19:00 -
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What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:25:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important. So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space? |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
455
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:26:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:must have mutli pipe systems otherwise you got to many rancer type system maybe , or im total wrong i dunno No, you are correct. Great wildlands have these pipes, and they are good.
yeah its fun , you find me in low sec too. Wonder how the economics will be in eve after your idea , i like it tho The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
455
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:27:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important. So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space?
dont think so , but will be different , positif i tend to believe The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1178
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:29:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important. So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space?
I believe that the majority of indy people are risk averse and prefer to live all their lives in hi sec, building ships and mods and whatever else they build. They would rather quit than move through low to different trade hubs. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
777
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:30:00 -
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So you want the four Empire spaces isolated from each other? Agreed IF in return jumping into Low-sec no longer puts you around the gate (and right inside the local gate camps) but somewhere in the middle of the system, or at least at a GREATLY increased radius from the gate. Also no longer working smartbombs within the range of gates. No free rides for those so-called Low-Sec "PvPers" that are so elite when blobbing all those high-sec idiots who don-¦t know what they get themselves into by jumping into Low-Sec. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Need to advertise your Corp or service? Look no further, this space is now for rent!
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:31:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote: No free rides for those so-called Low-Sec "PvPers" that are so elite when blobbing all those high-sec idiots who don-¦t know what they get themselves into by jumping into Low-Sec.
I thought that this game is multiplayer game.
Get friends and break that camp? |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2441
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:32:00 -
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considering there are market hubs in highsec islands already (octanneve) i doubt it'd DESTROY THE ECONOMY |
Arduemont
The State of War. Vendetta Mercenary Group
3006
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:33:00 -
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Do your research. This used to be the case, and it was removed because it was a terrible terrible idea and caused numerous problems. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Zappity
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
812
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:34:00 -
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The other thread is already at 55 pages. Practically every iteration has been discussed in case you're looking for something to read.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Alastair Ormand
Badger Badger Badger Apocalypse Now.
28
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:35:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important. So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space? There are other trade hubs other than Jita you know... Jita just was chosen by the people to be a center for trading... We have them in real life too, they're called towns/cities. **** happens in there, where currency is traded for other **** people want/need.
I know it's confusing just take it easy, word by word. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2441
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:39:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:I know it's confusing just take it easy, word by word. your post has nothing to do with the one you're quoting |
Sentinel zx
Shadow Phoenix Special Forces
34
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:48:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:Break all highsec connections between empires.
For example you would have to travel through lowsec from Minmatar to Gallente. Same from Minmatar to Amarr and so on.
Allow highsec connections to only interempire region jumps.
For example you could jump from Metropolis to Heimatar by using highsec connection, but then if you would like to move towards Sinq laison, you would have to cross the dangerous lowsec.
1) Jita's value as largest hub would decrease, because you couldn't run freighters easily with alts.
2) It would make life on lowsec space much more interesting
3) It would spawn up a real need for escorting your haulers and freighters
4) Use of jump freighters would increase, however, it's expensive to use them
5) There has been similar changes in the past, like Jitas connections have been changed few times.
please read this
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 |
Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.02.08 12:51:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Do your research. This used to be the case, and it was removed because it was a terrible terrible idea and caused numerous problems. Name few problems? I would like to hear them.
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Arduemont
The State of War. Vendetta Mercenary Group
3006
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:14:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:Arduemont wrote:Do your research. This used to be the case, and it was removed because it was a terrible terrible idea and caused numerous problems. Name few problems? I would like to hear them.
Well, everyone would all be bunched together in one of the empires for a start. Don't get me wrong, I want what you want, but this is not the answer.
Carebears don't leave highsec. You can't force them to. If you split the empires, they will all live separate and content in their own little bubbles and never leave same as before. What you will probably find is that all highsec players would congregate in the one empire space that has the biggest trade hub and never leave. Three empty empires and one packed cesspool.
The Eve you envision sounds amazing, but doing this wouldn't get you what you want. It would just make highsec even more separated and 'single-player'esque than it already is. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
2441
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:22:00 -
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there are plenty of carebears in the highsec next to syndicate |
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Veronica Felix
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:36:00 -
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Sounds like a good idea. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
98413
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:42:00 -
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The game would become more interesting indeed.
A vast, interesting and empty galaxy game most indeed. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
267
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:47:00 -
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support this thread to make it happen
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
507
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:00:00 -
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meh with all the jump freighters out there I doubt it would make much of a difference. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:03:00 -
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I think this idea has been brought up a thousand times already? I have no idea where CCP stands on this though.
I don't think it will matter much in the grands scheme of things though. Black Frog prices would prolly go up and I'm sure they would get a lot more business, but if it would actually do much for low sec? Meh, doubt it. A few more noobs and ignorants getting blown up in the in between systems but don't expect thousands of players traveling through those systems, they'll simply stay in high sec, use jump clones, cloakies and pay other ppl to move big stuff (all safely behind a big collateral). It does NOTHING to improve low sec itself, hence it will not draw more ppl into low sec cept for the earlier mentioned noobs and ignorant. And those can be dealt with in Hi sec too quite easily.
Fix low sec, don't just add more of it and expect it to become alive and vibrant space....
In short: meh, lousy idea.... |
Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:13:00 -
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Break all highsec connections between empires.
For example you would have to travel through lowsec from Minmatar to Gallente. Same from Minmatar to Amarr and so on.
ANSWER = I love this idea
Allow highsec connections to only interempire region jumps.
For example you could jump from Metropolis to Heimatar by using highsec connection, but then if you would like to move towards Sinq laison, you would have to cross the dangerous lowsec.
1) Jita's value as largest hub would decrease, because you couldn't run freighters easily with alts.
ANSWER = Yes and would reduce load, don't see much of a downside
2) It would make life on lowsec space much more interesting
ANSWER = Not really. It would just result in more congestion in each Empire space.
3) It would spawn up a real need for escorting your haulers and freighters
ANSWER = Not really. Unless your a multiboxer, who is going to escort you for free? Paying would eat into profits. No guarantee your escort would stop you from sploding.
4) Use of jump freighters would increase, however, it's expensive to use them
ANSWER = The use of these would remain constant, except those who have them might use them more
5) There has been similar changes in the past, like Jitas connections have been changed few times.
ANSWER = Nothing like this has been tried in the past. The carebears would quit in droves if they did.
Look, I love your idea but its not practical. Until we have a better way to enter Low sec instead of throw easy to camp chokepoints its a waste of time. |
EvEa Deva
Forum Alt Retort
449
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Posted - 2014.02.08 14:23:00 -
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Could work for faction warfare, the empire has to control the system to turn it back into a .5 system.
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Vespiidius
Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
17
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:54:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote: No free rides for those so-called Low-Sec "PvPers" that are so elite when blobbing all those high-sec idiots who don-¦t know what they get themselves into by jumping into Low-Sec.
I thought that this game is multiplayer game. Get friends and break that camp?
A multiplayer game simply means that the game "hosts" more than one player and most likely has mechanics which support many players attempting an objective at the same time. It does not mean I have to play with you. I'm wondering if you even thought before making this suggestion or you wanted proof that you are worth hanging out with the cool, "nerf hisec" kids on the far side of the lunch room. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
25
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Posted - 2014.02.08 16:09:00 -
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Z'zauoe Euopaeqorua wrote:J3ssica Alba wrote:What about we make everything low sec, heck no, null sec, we wouldn't want gate guns to interfere with our freighter ganking right? Yup ! sounds good .. but wait what's that sound I hear? Oh, that's just Eve's economy grinding to a halt, nothing important. So you seriously do believe that economy in EVE online depends on having one single large continent of highsec space?
yeah this isnt iraq, they're not JUST going to let they oil barge undock and head to the US. The system would encourage the large alliance to camp the systems and cause the hubs to increase in prices like breaking up microsoft. it will be effective pay our price because you can go to another region and get it cheaper with out extreme risk. it would be like going to buy a new car in 1 city and to get back home you have to drive through the Chicago hood. Also i suspect that with even more low/null space increase ganking of those particular empire would further increase leaving industrialist to buy the mins from the market and produce goods at inflated prices to turn a profit. |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
265
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Posted - 2014.02.08 16:11:00 -
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agondray pls |
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