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Frank Millar
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Posted - 2014.02.11 10:20:00 -
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I mastered baiting a long time ago, and I went blind.
Just something to think about. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1157
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Posted - 2014.02.11 10:48:00 -
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So many things to cringe and whine about, and you pick baiting? |
djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
62
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Posted - 2014.02.11 10:50:00 -
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trolling is underpowered, it needs a serious boost - trolls are too bad.
obvious troll post is obvious - learn to do it right please. |
Infinity Ziona
Drags are Bud
1646
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:02:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Baiting has always been part of the warlord repertoire. Some warlord somewhere at some point in time wrote:"Give the masses a little something to hope for and and when they come to take it - KILL THEM ALL!!" Most warlords in the modern era do in fact use the mobile scan inhibitor The most warlordy warlord in the warlordaverse wrote:"I don't always bait but when I do, I use the mobile scan inhibitor". Also this... Dark Warlord Graxx Bemuddlefux wrote:something... something... warlord... Baiting is not the issue. It's the ability to magically transport a team many systems away on top of a person to overwhelmingly kill them.
My opposition to it is that it's much to easy to fit, much to cheap to use and has no negative drawbacks to it like cloaks do and most of all reduce willingness to engage in spontaneous PvP due to "it's a trap???"
If you would be opposed to my gang cloak module suggested you should be opposed yo cynos as they are.
I think ships using cyno should have a temporary recalibration delay just like cloaks do, they should be much harder to fit on non-Recons / non covert ops since the role they perform is a covert ops role . Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Fatal Amelana
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:07:00 -
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C'mon nerfing bridges whatz next pink ui ? |
Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
229
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:16:00 -
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Surely a warlord as yourself would come up with something good against it |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:22:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Why don't you counter bait. I prefer to master bait... |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2404
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:27:00 -
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Your Dad Naked wrote:- How would you know in advance the names of the Titan pilots about to blob you?
Dude, what? You don't think people track things like Titan pilots? Heck knowing this game there's probably a list of every Titan pilot with an active sub in the game. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1026
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:38:00 -
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Hi, my name is I Love Boobies, and I don't know how to master bait yet. The closest I have ever come to master baiting was the time I sat in a stealth bomber by a can in a belt, and blow people up when they tried to take the stuff. It wasn't very satisfying. I need to learn to master bait. I think it would be very fulfilling. Can you help me master bait? |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society
2438
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Posted - 2014.02.11 12:40:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:
The unpredictability is bad for the game's strategy. If you can't see what the enemy are doing, how can you counter it?
This is a contradiction. If you COULD see what the enemy was doing, you wouldn't need strategy. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Infinity Ziona
Drags are Bud
1648
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:37:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:
The unpredictability is bad for the game's strategy. If you can't see what the enemy are doing, how can you counter it?
This is a contradiction. If you COULD see what the enemy was doing, you wouldn't need strategy. Cynos remove all strategy.
A good strategy is to have scouts in nearby areas, choose your setup wisely, choose to engage wisely and so on. This is all made irrelevant by a cyno. At best you will get a small gang or solo ship to engage bait and drop a ton of ships on them.
At worst you can choose not to cyno in if the odds are bad. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
482
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:43:00 -
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I once masterbaited some guy from his brutix into a megathron.... then he 'exploded'. hahaha xD EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
446
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:01:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:Fit Ship Scanner, scan suspect ships, analize (cyno?), run/attack. But yes, in general more cruising, less dropping would be nice But that won't change so quickly, the advantages hotdropping gives you are just to good. this as less to do with baiting than dropping imaho.
baiting is fine, but the instant "i bring 50BC and 2 triage carriers in your face" is the issue.
there is a reason i changed my fleet doctrine to 200km alpha nados.. because 90% of the time, the solo [insert cruiser or bigger here] is a cyno bait.
now, we used to scan em, but indeed, they adapted by using a 2nd cloacky toon to cyno so the first one pass the scan.
and of course, WE are the cowards (wich turns out fun when the cyno tries to bait 5-8 ppl with 40+ ppl waiting on his spacedildo to drop us and is confronted with it).
tldr: titan drop is deterrent to fight (i think BLOPS is OK because of the weekness / or isk + skill involved, it seems way more balanced) |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
446
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:05:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:
The unpredictability is bad for the game's strategy. If you can't see what the enemy are doing, how can you counter it?
This is a contradiction. If you COULD see what the enemy was doing, you wouldn't need strategy. you are wrong, the current situation is avoiding contact because of cyno, if THAT is what you call a strategy......
i've been in too many fights where i engage, even outnumbered, when, as soon as the odds turn in our favor " a wild fleet appears".
thx but no thx |
Harrison Tato
Barringtons Research
17
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:27:00 -
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Hmmm.......seems like trolling |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
121
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:28:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:
The unpredictability is bad for the game's strategy. If you can't see what the enemy are doing, how can you counter it?
This is a contradiction. If you COULD see what the enemy was doing, you wouldn't need strategy.
BAMCIS. learn it... http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1157
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Posted - 2014.02.11 14:38:00 -
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I don't always agree with Infinity Ziona, but when I do it is about cynos. |
Frostys Virpio
IRS Fraud
1003
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:10:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:I once masterbaited some guy from his brutix into a megathron.... then he 'exploded'. hahaha xD
That's hmmmm... interesting. |
Serene Repose
Saanen Freight Service
936
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:12:00 -
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Am I reading this right? There's a dead-in-the-water Augoror from an enemy corp just sitting near a gate, and you can't bring yourself not to attack it? So, you need a game mechanic changed to accomodate the fact you can't just sit on your hands once in a while and let something slide? This is really funnier than all the master baiter jokes rolled into one.
Just walk on by...foolish pride.... I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Winchester Steele
327
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Posted - 2014.02.11 19:55:00 -
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My mom told me that if I bait too much I'll grow hair on the armor plates of my maller. C/D? ... |
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Apollo Roe
The Minutemen
1
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:53:00 -
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What a useless post. What a useless thought. There is nothing wrong with baiting except that you dont have the skill to avoid them. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1100
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:57:00 -
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Ah, I see the masterful jokes have already been made in this thread. Good, good. Everything is as it should be. |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
827
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:35:00 -
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"A good fleet is nothing without a good FC. A good FC is nothing without a good fleet." - Me, Just Now "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
110
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:46:00 -
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The noose has been sprung! |
TharOkha
0asis Group
806
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:51:00 -
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Although OP post is really pathetic, i agree that bridges removed any strategy planning. . |
Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
54
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:02:00 -
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That's not very nice TharOkha.
Still mad about that nerf hisec thread? |
Paul Panala
Circulus Exousias Sentinel Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:13:00 -
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I think we need AFK Cloaker to weigh in on this topic. |
Paul Panala
Circulus Exousias Sentinel Alliance
157
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:15:00 -
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I actually agree with the basic idea behind the OP. Eve favors large groups too much. Solo PvP (outside of FW sites) does not really work. Even those who are good at it (if they are honest) admit that they lose more than they win. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1194
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:48:00 -
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Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Thread locked.
If you have a legitimate idea to put forward, please flesh it out with appropriate details and post it in the Features & Ideas Discussion subforum. Thank you. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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