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Ishtar Dannah
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:11:00 -
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this is only my second day... a person has private messaged me named GM ******* (i blocked it in case there are rules against naming). in world of warcraft you know its a safe person because a special text box comes up and the text is blue and there is a blizzard logo. but in this game don't know how to tell if i should be careful with this person and they are trying to impersonate an employee in order to scam me? |
Veritaal
Veri-Tech Tax Haven
43
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:21:00 -
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Yep. This is 100% a scam, and you should report this person.
If a CCP employee needs to talk to you, you're probably getting an E-Mail or something. I can't imagine any reason for a GM to send a PM to a 2 day old character. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:27:00 -
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GM's will occasionally contact new players, welcome them to the game and answer questions, so there is a high chance it was not a scam. And yes they do this by convoing you
GM's and devs will have a different color on the text when they talk (think it's red in both cases) so if you see that you know it's the real thing. Also if you are really really paranoid you can check their corporation, which is a specific corp only they can join. And they don't like it when people try to steal their Corp name or ticker Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:29:00 -
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It is not unheard of for a GM to welcome a new player to the game. But it is more likely to be a scam. BTW, you seem to be paranoid, welcome to EVE, you'll fit right in
In any case, report the person. While, in general, scams are legal, impersonating a CCP employee is one of the few bannable offenses in EVE. |
Weylin Ormand
Mining Bay inc Beacon Light Alliance
92
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:37:00 -
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Yea GMs show up in red, CCP devs show up in blue. GMs have "GM (name)" and CCP devs have "CCP (name)" if their text didn't turn red when they were talking to you, then they're not a GM and need to be reported ASAP. I mine so you can have the fuel to run your POS.
Have you thanked a miner today? |
Ishtar Dannah
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:40:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:BTW, you seem to be paranoid, welcome to EVE, you'll fit right in
lol thats why i am worried about it, because i read this game encourages people to scam you and if you do let yourself get scammed you are just screwed, there is no help for you from game masters.
in any case the person was probably legitimate, cuz they just ended up asking me if i needed help and then sending me a mail of new player links then said they'd let me get back to playing. the text was yellow though, not red. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
4878
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:44:00 -
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Another thing to look out for is that all GMs and CCP employees are part of "special" corporations with their own "special" logos. None of them will ever be in a regular NPC corp. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Ishtar Dannah
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:49:00 -
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actually the person's text was not red it was yellow. does this mean they are an impersonator? here is a screenshot of their details http://i.imgur.com/WkMvqYy.jpg |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
1261
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Posted - 2014.02.12 05:55:00 -
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Ishtar Dannah wrote:actually the person's text was not red it was yellow. does this mean they are an impersonator? here is a screenshot of their details http://i.imgur.com/WkMvqYy.jpg
No, that's a real GM. They're in the CCP alliance, that's legit. The GMs do contact new players in their first few days to offer help to find out if they're struggling, etc. |
Ishtar Dannah
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.12 06:09:00 -
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okay thanks for the help! |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2028
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Posted - 2014.02.12 06:35:00 -
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If you aren't sure if it's a scam or not, assume it is. In this case it was not, but you had exactly the right approach.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2014.02.12 08:22:00 -
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Players can only type in white text and CCP employees type in coloured text depending on what part of CCP they belong to (not to be confuse with coloured titles).
CCP DEVS type in dark blue GMs type in red or yellow there's also player volunteers, the "normal" ones type in light blue and the "higher up's" in green.
So any time someone's text is coloured you can be sure it's legit. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
308
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Posted - 2014.02.12 09:08:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Players can only type in white text and CCP employees type in coloured text depending on what part of CCP they belong to (not to be confuse with coloured titles).
CCP DEVS type in dark blue GMs type in red or yellow there's also player volunteers, the "normal" ones type in light blue and the "higher up's" in green.
So any time someone's text is coloured you can be sure it's legit. Actually my cat can type in the dev dark blue, no idea what combination of keys he sat on but he managed to say something like "ogjxbdgofj,,,,,,,hcsfkj"""";,,, xd______" in the dev colour (or something a lot like it) ,which roughly translates to " hay you, get off the pc and feed me dame it!" If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2014.02.12 09:53:00 -
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You played it safe OP. As said before; your future in EVE is off for a good start :)
Remember this; expecting everything to be a scam may cause others to sigh a bit and explain to you they're not scamming you at all. But in the end they know damn well that paranoia pays off.
oh.. and welcome to EVE :) |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3658
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:13:00 -
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Legit. Occasionally GMs contact new players to help them get settled in EVE and ask how they can improve the NPE.
Congrats on having the first person you blocked be a CCP employee.
I believe, but dont take my word for it though, that yellow text is besides red also reserved for CCP GMs and more specifically for Level 2 GMs.
It is actually very simple to see if it is a legit GM or someone breaking the game name rules. Official CCP employees are all part of the CCP Alliance, if a person is not, he is breaking rules and should be reported for it. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
281
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Posted - 2014.02.12 13:22:00 -
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I did something similar when a GM messaged me. Talked to the for a minute and then made an excuse that I was just updated my skill queue and logged out before they could scam me.
However, in retrospect, one thing to keep in mind is that no one can scam you just by talking to you*. Also, as a new player you have very little to lose. So keep your ears open but stay paranoid and not only will you learn stuff, but you'll probably also learn how some of the scams work so you can avoid them in future.
*except maybe Sabriz? I can hear the wheels turning in her head - "challenge accepted!" www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Like to answer questions? Join my public channel in game:-áHouse Forelli |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:55:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:It is not unheard of for a GM to welcome a new player to the game. But it is more likely to be a scam. BTW, you seem to be paranoid, welcome to EVE, you'll fit right in In any case, report the person. While, in general, scams are legal, impersonating a CCP employee is one of the few bannable offenses in EVE.
Yes, you've donned the tinfoil hat early. Step two, grow a neckbeard. step 3, epic eve-ness. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:14:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote: one thing to keep in mind is that no one can scam you just by talking to you*.
Plus, you might figure out a way to counter scam them instead! |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:37:00 -
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Yes someone somewhere in eve is trying to scam you at this very moment. No its probably not this GM. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1202
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:18:00 -
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Confirming legitness. It's called "Meet & Greet". The CCP support crew and ISD STAR have been pushing forward a massive effort recently to welcome the influx of new players and to address any problems that crop up. I hope it's going well! ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Ishtar Dannah
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:54:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Confirming legitness. It's called "Meet & Greet". The CCP support crew and ISD STAR have been pushing forward a massive effort recently to welcome the influx of new players and to address any problems that crop up. I hope it's going well!
thanks! i'm not used to MMOs where game masters just randomly message people to welcome them to say hi when they haven't even made a support ticket, so immediately i thought it was very suspicious. thats what you guys get for being so nice :P |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:05:00 -
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Ishtar Dannah wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Confirming legitness. It's called "Meet & Greet". The CCP support crew and ISD STAR have been pushing forward a massive effort recently to welcome the influx of new players and to address any problems that crop up. I hope it's going well! thanks! i'm not used to MMOs where game masters just randomly message people to welcome them to say hi when they haven't even made a support ticket, so immediately i thought it was very suspicious. thats what you guys get for being so nice :P It's okay. A GM never messaged me, but one did message my girlfriend when she started playing. This was before I was in ISD, so I didn't know it was a thing, and I made extra sure that the text of that person was not gray/white (I don't remember whether it was a GM or an ISD who did so). It's a great sudden feeling of paranoia. A rush! ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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unidenify
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:23:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Ishtar Dannah wrote:ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Confirming legitness. It's called "Meet & Greet". The CCP support crew and ISD STAR have been pushing forward a massive effort recently to welcome the influx of new players and to address any problems that crop up. I hope it's going well! thanks! i'm not used to MMOs where game masters just randomly message people to welcome them to say hi when they haven't even made a support ticket, so immediately i thought it was very suspicious. thats what you guys get for being so nice :P It's okay. A GM never messaged me, but one did message my girlfriend when she started playing. This was before I was in ISD, so I didn't know it was a thing, and I made extra sure that the text of that person was not gray/white (I don't remember whether it was a GM or an ISD who did so). It's a great sudden feeling of paranoia. A rush!
I must admit that is unique feature of EVE online
I don't know other MMO that do this. |
Qalix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:33:00 -
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Paranoia good. Always keep that part of your brain working in EVE. Anything that requires trust should be approached with maximum skepticism, regardless of how long you've known the person. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3519
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:35:00 -
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Another thing to note: Often GM's and Dev's can chat in a channel without actually appearing in the channel member list. I've never seen that happen otherwise (although it might be possible).
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1202
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:47:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote: Another thing to note: Often GM's and Dev's can chat in a channel without actually appearing in the channel member list. I've never seen that happen otherwise (although it might be possible).
This often happens in "delayed" mode channels (especially big channels). I don't know of any other mechanic by which someone can hide in a chat channel. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISD_LackOfFaith on Twitter |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2033
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:19:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:I did something similar when a GM messaged me. Talked to the for a minute and then made an excuse that I was just updating my skill queue and logged out before they could scam me.
However, in retrospect, one thing to keep in mind is that no one can scam you just by talking to you*. Also, as a new player you have very little to lose. So keep your ears open but stay paranoid and not only will you learn stuff, but you'll probably also learn how some of the scams work so you can avoid them in future.
*except maybe Sabriz? I can hear the wheels turning in her head - "challenge accepted!"
Actually, all the best scams begin with friendly conversations. It's much more common to fail in a scam attempt if you open with the scam.
In that sense it's like sales IRL - you build rapport first, possibly by talking about totally unrelated things.
That said, I also assumed the GM convo was a scam at first when it happened to me (it happened to both of my accounts - the second time I just said 'hey thanks, I'm an alt of an experienced player, but have a good one' and went back to providing advice in the rookie help channel and putting in applications to corps that looked like good AWOX targets).
All in all though, no point scamming from newbies. They just don't have anything worth stealing. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3164
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:29:00 -
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As others have pointed out, CCP Alliiance [C C P] is another hint. The logo is hard to mistake.
https://gate.eveonline.com/Alliance/C%20C%20P%20Alliance
Gamemasters are in corp [GMS] a member of [C C P] alliance: http://evewho.com/corp/Game+Masters |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3660
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:35:00 -
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[quote=Sabriz Adoudel
All in all though, no point scamming from newbies. They just don't have anything worth stealing.[/quote]
Except their innocense. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
235
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Posted - 2014.02.13 17:54:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:[quote=Sabriz Adoudel
All in all though, no point scamming from newbies. They just don't have anything worth stealing.
Except their innocense.[/quote]
Its hard for me to sell innocence in Jita. At least I haven't found the market section for it yet. Same with tears. At least those can be exchanged through eve mails though. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
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