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Ace Echo
The Shadow Raiders Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2014.02.14 04:54:00 -
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Finde learth wrote:Two Universes // Two Wars One Universe is a ******* joke since 2006. When will CCP stop lying ?
Considering that from any one person's point of view, there is only one playable universe, I think it's a stretch to call that a lie.
Aanyway - I think that the suggestion to publish the list of character names beforehand would be a good move on CCP's part, both to open it up for player review, and also to make sure there aren't issues with unjust censorship. Signature Radius: 76 pixels |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
456
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Posted - 2014.02.14 09:11:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument. BTW isn't that a perfect time to enable Character renames on Tranquility? never |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1028
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Posted - 2014.02.14 10:23:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Serenity character names will be included on the monument. With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument. We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument. Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included.
The real question is... are their names going to be in Chinese? |
Zalifer Esepula
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2014.02.14 10:41:00 -
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If someone is going to have their name filtered, I think it would be wise to let them know, and offer them the chance to use another characters name. It would be harsh to lose out because your character name means something offensive in another language, or is deemed not appropriate, without having reproach, if they are still names that are acceptable in the game.
For example, my name is composed of two made up names, which I just like the sound of. I don't know if in some other language, one of them means something offensive. I don't think they do, but I would be really hurt if I could not get onto the monument, as a paying customer with my name usable in game, and not intended to be offensive, without getting a chance to fix the problem. It's a big source of excitement for me to think that my character will be immortalised on a monument in Iceland.
Vincent Athena wrote:BTW, I have not read all the posts here and elsewhere so I may have missed it: What defines my "main character"? Most SP? First one made on the account? Something else?
I think it's most SP, but not too sure. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
1751
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Posted - 2014.02.14 12:07:00 -
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Can I get clarification if PLEXed accounts on TQ count as "paid" or not? Someone surely paid for the PLEXes...
P.S. It turns out renaming service is not impossible in EVE. |
Billy Hix
Team JK
107
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:48:00 -
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They can't release the list of names.
CCP have been pretty careful not to release specific account numbers for quite a long time now. If they released the names, someone will just add them all up and we instantly have a specific number of active accounts.
Saying that, I would love to know the numbers |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:52:00 -
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Request the ability to be able too nominate which character is actually considered to be the "main" as apposed to the char with the most skill-points. Thankyou. |
Ace Echo
The Shadow Raiders Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:21:00 -
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I'm noticing quite a few people saying they don't want the char with the most SP on the monument.
How many people, honestly, play the game mostly on the lowest-sp char on a single account? I don't think this monument was designed to chisel in stone whatever the player wants, but rather to honor the game and its players by, well, engraving the name of its players.
If we could nominate whichever name we want to be on the monument, then at least a quarter of the names (conservative prediction) would be meaningless in regards to the monument, as that wouldn't represent eve, rather the players that changed their names for the lulz. imho. Signature Radius: 76 pixels |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:23:00 -
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Ace Echo wrote:I'm noticing quite a few people saying they don't want the char with the most SP on the monument.
How many people, honestly, play the game mostly on the lowest-sp char on a single account? I don't think this monument was designed to chisel in stone whatever the player wants, but rather to honor the game and its players by, well, engraving the name of its players.
If we could nominate whichever name we want to be on the monument, then at least a quarter of the names (conservative prediction) would be meaningless in regards to the monument, as that wouldn't represent eve, rather the players that changed their names for the lulz. imho.
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:10:00 -
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Personally I think that the oldest character created on an account should be classed as the main, if it exists that is. If not then the next created, and I mean created not bought.
Ok some of you probably play a different character now, one you created, but i'm sure CCP don't want to handle a bazillion requests from the player base about what name they want on the monument. CCP has to draw a line, I think they did it right. |
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Finde learth
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2014.02.15 15:27:00 -
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Ace Echo wrote:Finde learth wrote:Two Universes // Two Wars One Universe is a ******* joke since 2006. When will CCP stop lying ? Considering that from any one person's point of view, there is only one playable universe, I think it's a stretch to call that a lie. Aanyway - I think that the suggestion to publish the list of character names beforehand would be a good move on CCP's part, both to open it up for player review, and also to make sure there aren't issues with unjust censorship.
EVE Online New Pilot FAQ "1.5 HOW MANY SERVERS ARE THERE? There is only one server for EVE Online, named Tranquility. Tranquility serves all of the hundreds of thousands of pilots that are taking part in the EVE Online universe."
One server must be a lie. One Universe must be a lie. |
SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
313
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Posted - 2014.02.15 17:06:00 -
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Just a reminder for everyone, it is not your monument, CCP can put any names on it they like, you are not entitled to anything.
Let the madness start. I disagree |
Lucy tzung
Deep Strike Mining Divison
0
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:00:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Serenity character names will be included on the monument. With regards to name filtering, yes, we've thought about it. This was one of the first things that came up when we decided we were going to put player names on the monument. We have a taskforce in Reykjavik, and a group from Tiancity, who will be filtering the names before they're submitted for inclusion on the monument. Anything deemed inappropriate will not be included. Will tranquillity players get a name change service for this?
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Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.02.17 08:39:00 -
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With a name etched that means nothing to me other than an end to a means, the Monument will be as empty and as relevant as that B-of-the-Bang monstrosity come monument that was erected outside the Emptihad stadium built in Manchester for the 2002 Commonwealth games. Later pulled down and scrapped. Millions of pounds -ú wasted.
If you are going to do it, as indeed you say you are CCP, then please do it properly, lets not have an empty gesture that means nothing too so many when it could mean so much too people that actually do care. |
Ai Shun
1055
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Posted - 2014.02.17 08:56:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote:With a name etched that means nothing to me other than an end to a means, the Monument will be as empty and as relevant as that B-of-the-Bang monstrosity come monument that was erected outside the Emptihad stadium built in Manchester for the 2002 Commonwealth games. Later pulled down and scrapped. Millions of pounds -ú wasted.
Create shell account and transfer undesirable character to it?
Yes, it's going to cost you money, but if it is that important to you why wouldn't you?
From my perspective, I chose the name I wanted when I created my character. I'm not convinced CCP should spend time, money and energy on checking with every player what character they want included and making it so. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:05:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:With a name etched that means nothing to me other than an end to a means, the Monument will be as empty and as relevant as that B-of-the-Bang monstrosity come monument that was erected outside the Emptihad stadium built in Manchester for the 2002 Commonwealth games. Later pulled down and scrapped. Millions of pounds -ú wasted. Create shell account and transfer undesirable character to it? Yes, it's going to cost you money, but if it is that important to you why wouldn't you?
Well, I already pay a yearly subscription on/for two accounts, the only two I am interested in, so.. I do feel that I pay enough in hard cash for the privilege of having a name recorded for posterity that actually means something to me that is to be immortalized within the in-game lore forever rather than a temp project, that is really somebody else's puppie representing me in-game for all eternity.
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Ai Shun
1055
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:19:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote:Well, I already pay a yearly subscription on/for two accounts, the only two I am interested in, so.. I do feel that I pay enough in hard cash for the privilege of having a name recorded for posterity that actually means something to me that is to be immortalized within the in-game lore forever rather than a temp project, that is really somebody else's puppie representing me in-game for all eternity.
Edit..Missed your Edit, I mean that I dont want a bought/paid for char, from the char bazaar, to represent me over a char that I have actually created myself for the purpose of being my actual identifiable char.
Sure, I understood your motivation and reasoning the first time. I guess I just don't agree that CCP should spend their time and money to please you for something that really only has meaning to you and which is within your power to resolve. I'd wager the cost to you is far lower than the cost to them.
Granted though, they could help more people by doing one thing. But then, they could also be making more money to help fund EVE development. And really, is the cost of an account + transfer (Potentially twice) really that onerous when you can get the name you want on a monument in Iceland? |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:31:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:Well, I already pay a yearly subscription on/for two accounts, the only two I am interested in, so.. I do feel that I pay enough in hard cash for the privilege of having a name recorded for posterity that actually means something to me that is to be immortalized within the in-game lore forever rather than a temp project, that is really somebody else's puppie representing me in-game for all eternity.
Edit..Missed your Edit, I mean that I dont want a bought/paid for char, from the char bazaar, to represent me over a char that I have actually created myself for the purpose of being my actual identifiable char. Sure, I understood your motivation and reasoning the first time. I guess I just don't agree that CCP should spend their time and money to please you for something that really only has meaning to you and which is within your power to resolve. I'd wager the cost to you is far lower than the cost to them. Granted though, they could help more people by doing one thing. But then, they could also be making more money to help fund EVE development. And really, is the cost of an account + transfer (Potentially twice) really that onerous when you can get the name you want on a monument in Iceland?
Then my point is that the (said) Monument will just be an empty and shallow aspect of game Lore, It could genuinly be so much more, something that even approaches CCP's goals, if such is to be built (as a Stonemason) I would respectively suggest that the Monument should be meaningful to those that it pertains to represent and not just a temp project that that subscriber's might have been engaged in at that time. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1835
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Posted - 2014.02.17 09:52:00 -
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This is a gift by CCP to all of us.
They may listen to our suggestions and inputs, but they are in no way, obligated to oblige by them.
We are stakeholders and not shareholders of CCP and as such, CCP has the right to do whatever they want with the monument.
Once again, this is a gift by CCP to all of us and hence, it is up to CCP to decide what to do and us, the players, should not share any ill-feelings when CCP does not oblige to our "petty requests."
OP made the initial posting over the concerns that several CCP ISDs in China are using this sacred gift by CCP to push Chinese political agenda.
He just wanted to bring lights to potential wrongdoings performed by Chinese ISDs. Once again, you guys can continue to provide inputs as to how the Monument could be sculptured, but CCP is in no way, obligated to oblige by them. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
187
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:08:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:This is a gift by CCP to all of us.
They may listen to our suggestions and inputs, but they are in no way, obligated to oblige by them.
We are stakeholders and not shareholders of CCP and as such, CCP has the right to do whatever they want with the monument.
Once again, this is a gift by CCP to all of us and hence, it is up to CCP to decide what to do and us, the players, should not share any ill-feelings when CCP does not oblige to our "petty requests."
OP made the initial posting over the concerns that several CCP ISDs in China are using this sacred gift by CCP to push Chinese political agenda.
He just wanted to bring lights to potential wrongdoings performed by Chinese ISDs. Once again, you guys can continue to provide inputs as to how the Monument could be sculptured, but CCP is in no way, obligated to oblige by them.
If they was indeed (CCP) not obligated to oblige then we would not even have this thread, the thread is merely a catalogue of suggestions if not advice, Whilst i fully understand the OP's point and fully endorse it, one should be able to suggest what one would like/wants in a civil manner and all issues highlighted are genuine concerns regarding a permanent Monument.
not out too bumfook anybody, would just want a permanent symbolic gesture to be "Meaningfull" rather than an empty, and another, B of the Bang, waste of money disaster pushed on to the playerbase because it is a "THING" that can be made to happen. |
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1835
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:26:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote: If they was indeed (CCP) not obligated to oblige then we would not even have this thread, the thread is merely a catalogue of suggestions if not advice, Whilst i fully understand the OP's point and fully endorse it, one should be able to suggest what one would like/wants in a civil manner and all issues highlighted are genuine concerns regarding a permanent Monument.
not out too bumfook anybody, would just want a permanent symbolic gesture to be "Meaningfull" rather than an empty, and another, B of the Bang, waste of money disaster pushed on to the playerbase because it is a "THING" that can be made to happen.
Someone could call this a "waste of money," but once again, CCP is using its residual income to fund this project and "once again," us as stakeholders, can not dictate to CCP whether this should be done or not.
This is same thing as someone who drinks a bottle of Coca-Cola every week, bickering and moaning about the executives of Coca-Cola "wasting money" over the money-losing Coca-Cola museum that they built in Atlanta, Georgia.
CCP wanted to present us with a gift. Who the hell are we to say that this is a waste of money? They could have given out the residual income as dividends to suit CCP employees' pockets, but they are using this extra cashflow to commemorate EVE's achievement and monumentalize us the players, for the first time in MMO history in physical form. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:38:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote: If they was indeed (CCP) not obligated to oblige then we would not even have this thread, the thread is merely a catalogue of suggestions if not advice, Whilst i fully understand the OP's point and fully endorse it, one should be able to suggest what one would like/wants in a civil manner and all issues highlighted are genuine concerns regarding a permanent Monument.
not out too bumfook anybody, would just want a permanent symbolic gesture to be "Meaningfull" rather than an empty, and another, B of the Bang, waste of money disaster pushed on to the playerbase because it is a "THING" that can be made to happen.
Someone could call this a "waste of money," but once again, CCP is using its residual income to fund this project and "once again," us as stakeholders, can not dictate to CCP whether this should be done or not. This is same thing as someone who drinks a bottle of Coca-Cola every week, bickering and moaning about the executives of Coca-Cola "wasting money" over the money-losing Coca-Cola museum that they built in Atlanta, Georgia. CCP wanted to present us with a gift. Who the hell are we to say that this is a waste of money? They could have given out the residual income as dividends to suit CCP employees' pockets, but they are using this extra cashflow to commemorate EVE's achievement and monumentalize us the players, for the first time in MMO history in physical form.
I'm saying that the Monument will only be a waste of money/time if said Monument does not actually represent that that it supposed to represent in the first place. An old saying is that one measures twice and only cuts once. This is true in all trades and CCP should be wary of summat so pernament yet so shallow in significance, I ask what is in it for CCP if a permanent symbolic gesture fails to encapsulate that that what it is was fully intended for ?
I see no point in a Monument that does not represent it`s intentions
not trolling, just trying to surf the shallow(s)
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1835
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:47:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote:I'm saying that the Monument will only be a waste of money/time if said Monument does not actually represent that that it supposed to represent in the first place. An old saying is that one measures twice and only cuts once. This is true in all trades and CCP should be wary of summat so pernament yet so shallow in significance, I ask what is in it for CCP if a permanent symbolic gesture fails to encapsulate that that what it is was fully intended for ? I see no point in a Monument that does not represent it`s intentions not trolling, just trying to surf the shallow(s)
No one is trolling here.
A monument designed by one of the most innovative artists in Iceland.
A monument to be erected at the birthplace of our beloved EVE Online.
A monument that will be engraved with all of our names.
I don't see how this does not represent its original intention.
It takes more than $10,000 in donation to have your named engraved on a freaken bench in a university campus.
My friend's parents donated $2.5M to have a garden named after their last name in one of the Ivy league institutions.
We are getting our names on a monument that will stand the test of time, for virtually free.
Are we really in the position to dictate CCP on what to do? |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2014.02.17 10:51:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:I'm saying that the Monument will only be a waste of money/time if said Monument does not actually represent that that it supposed to represent in the first place. An old saying is that one measures twice and only cuts once. This is true in all trades and CCP should be wary of summat so pernament yet so shallow in significance, I ask what is in it for CCP if a permanent symbolic gesture fails to encapsulate that that what it is was fully intended for ? I see no point in a Monument that does not represent it`s intentions not trolling, just trying to surf the shallow(s) No one is trolling here. A monument designed by one of the most innovative artists in Iceland. A monument to be erected at the birthplace of our beloved EVE Online. A monument that will be engraved with all of our names. I don't see how this does not represent its original intention. It takes more than $10,000 in donation to have your named engraved on a freaken bench in a university campus. My friend's parents donated $2.5M to have a garden named after their last name in one of the Ivy league institutions. We are getting our names on a monument that will stand the test of time, for virtually free. Are we really in the position to dictate CCP on what to do?
We are not, but we MAY suggest that it is done properly, without the cutting of corners, a Monument is absolutely meaningless unless it actually represents that that it was intended too do. Ask your friends parents.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
13880
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Posted - 2014.02.17 13:46:00 -
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You may so suggest. In fact you have done so.
1 Kings 12:11
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1837
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:50:00 -
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Faenir Antollare wrote: We are not, but we MAY suggest that it is done properly, without the cutting of corners, a Monument is absolutely meaningless unless it actually represents that that it was intended too do. Ask your friends parents.
Of course we can suggest and we should.
I am just saying, there are some individuals who think CCP is obligated to listen to their inputs. I won't be surprised when I see several folks threatening CCP with "I will unsubscribe if you don't listen to my inputs" as the deadline for the Monument approaches. |
Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:56:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote: We are not, but we MAY suggest that it is done properly, without the cutting of corners, a Monument is absolutely meaningless unless it actually represents that that it was intended too do. Ask your friends parents.
Of course we can suggest and we should. I am just saying, there are some individuals who think CCP is obligated to listen to their inputs. I won't be surprised when I see several folks threatening CCP with "I will unsubscribe if you don't listen to my inputs" as the deadline for the Monument approaches. I like you, post more. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
191
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Posted - 2014.02.17 16:31:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote: We are not, but we MAY suggest that it is done properly, without the cutting of corners, a Monument is absolutely meaningless unless it actually represents that that it was intended too do. Ask your friends parents.
Of course we can suggest and we should. I am just saying, there are some individuals who think CCP is obligated to listen to their inputs. I won't be surprised when I see several folks threatening CCP with "I will unsubscribe if you don't listen to my inputs" as the deadline for the Monument approaches.
Edit..dem Gremlins again..
I agree fully with what you have had to say^. Would just like to reiterate that if something is worth doing then itis worth doing properly. |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
831
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Posted - 2014.02.17 17:36:00 -
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You guys are aware that said closure date for who goes on is rushing at us? And the time for unveiling is not that far behind.
Think of it from their side for a moment. Are they to poll every player and ask which name they want on? Or go with something that can be filtered and found digitally?
I know a majority don't care (hell I will bet a majority don't even know) about the monument. Whether they get on or not? Meh.
Highest sp is easily determined and yes it means that some people will have their Titan characters on rather than the characters they think of as their own. They took a shortcut to get ahead in the game with and now they feel slighted. Well, they can create a new acct and transfer or, hell, make a variation of their fav name on a new account.
Answering an early post, there are differences between this monument and the Cola Museum. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to spot the differences.
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Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
71
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Posted - 2014.02.18 01:07:00 -
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It really should be seen as a nice gesture from CCP, to show their appreciation of the players who have made this game their game of choice, a gesture to those who ensure the game continues.
I'm not sure of any other gaming caompany that has gone to the extent of creating something real out of game as a thank you to the players who make this possible and fun.
Cheers, AA |
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