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Draff Gracula
epTa Team Inc. Smile 'n' Wave
4
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Posted - 2014.10.20 13:28:21 -
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CCP pls We want to submit our penguins or something.
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Jared Noan
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
22
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:45:07 -
[392] - Quote
Can I has my logo now? |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
32
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Posted - 2014.10.23 07:41:09 -
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Jared Noan wrote:Can I has my logo now?
Cracks whip....NO! Now get back in your cage!
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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Ortho Loess
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
39
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Posted - 2014.10.23 23:07:53 -
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Fairly minor update:
I spoke to CCP Falcon at EGX, as he was helping run the Valkyrie demo (looking to be an awesome game btw!). Couldn't talk for all that long, as he was obviously very busy with the hordes of people wanting to play.
He expressed his anger at the legal team and told me that they've been summoned to Iceland to explain themselves and finally sort this out.
He also told me that the subject had been recently discussed by the CSM and that minutes from that would be coming out very shortly. Does anyone know where the hell those would be though? There's a list of CSM minutes on the website, but it only goes up to 2012. Yet another typically CCP **** up! (There's also a wiki page of CSM minutes, but it's even older - like the rest of the wiki)
I didn't get any specifics out of Falcon, but I got a strong impression that the solution they are currently favouring is to reset all alliance logos and replace them with a system like the one for corp logos. (I think they don't like the BEE!!)
Obviously EGX was a while ago now, so I'm pretty disappointed that STILL nothing has happened... |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
253
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Posted - 2014.10.24 00:27:47 -
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Ortho Loess wrote:Fairly minor update:
I spoke to CCP Falcon at EGX, as he was helping run the Valkyrie demo (looking to be an awesome game btw!). Couldn't talk for all that long, as he was obviously very busy with the hordes of people wanting to play.
He expressed his anger at the legal team and told me that they've been summoned to Iceland to explain themselves and finally sort this out.
He also told me that the subject had been recently discussed by the CSM and that minutes from that would be coming out very shortly. Does anyone know where the hell those would be though? There's a list of CSM minutes on the website, but it only goes up to 2012. Yet another typically CCP **** up! (There's also a wiki page of CSM minutes, but it's even older - like the rest of the wiki)
I didn't get any specifics out of Falcon, but I got a strong impression that the solution they are currently favouring is to reset all alliance logos and replace them with a system like the one for corp logos. (I think they don't like the BEE!!)
Obviously EGX was a while ago now, so I'm pretty disappointed that STILL nothing has happened...
http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/meeting-minutes/ < the one very out of date < CCP! do something ;).
CSM 8 minutes;
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm8-meeting-minutes-published/ August (January Release)
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm8-second-summit-minutes/ Winter (April release)
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Iudicium Vastus
Incognito Holdings and Savings
311
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Posted - 2014.10.28 21:08:50 -
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We will keep this forever bumped
[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just..
-Fit more points
-Fit faction points
-Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
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Jim Hazard
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2014.10.28 22:47:12 -
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Iudicium Vastus wrote:We will keep this forever bumped
Let-¦s post in style, let-¦s post for a while, Eve can wait we-¦re only watching the replies. Hoping for the best, but expecting the worst, Are you gonna drop the bomb or not?
Let us submit or let us bump forever We don-¦t have the power, but never say never. Sitting in the sandbox, life is a short trip. The Forum-¦s for the sad man.
Can you imagine when this fight is won? Turn our logos towards the sun, praising our leaders, we-¦re getting in tune The forum-¦s played by the madman.
Forever bumped, I want to be forever bumped. Do your really want to stay forever? Forever, and ever
Forever bumped, I want to be forever bumped. Do you really want to stay forever? Forever bumped.
One is a Virus, one is a bee, these are the things we want to see, seems like soon they all will be gone why don-¦t they stay on?
It-¦s hard to vanish with a good cause, I will not perish like a dead horse, Logos are like diamonds in the sun, and diamonds are forever.
So many logos submitted today, so many more being on their way, So many posts out of the blue, Oh let it come true.
Forever bumped, I want to be forever bumped. Do you really want to stay forever, Forever, and ever?
Forever bumped, i want to be forever bumped. Do you really want to stay forever, forever bumped?
Forever bumped, I want to be forever bumped. Do you really want to stay forever, Forever, and ever?
Forever bumped, I want to be forever bumped. Do you really want to stay forever?
(Let-¦s all sing together!) |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
35
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Posted - 2014.10.29 00:11:31 -
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I'm sad your tear bucket over floweth CCP
Quick get another!!
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1580
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Posted - 2014.10.29 19:25:21 -
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CSM9 Minutes have "Session: Alliance Logos" pages 94-99
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
36
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Posted - 2014.10.29 23:26:56 -
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i still don't agree with them not being able to do perpetual use liscences i think they put it as but i agree with there "watermark" idea and enjoyed reading the conversation up until i saw the following
Quote:Steve Ronuken One thing that would be really nice is something like the corp logo builder for small alliances so they wouldnGÇÖt have to go through the whole submission process or meet those requirements.
Quote:CCP Seagull: I would love to do something like that, itGÇÖs something we can look at
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
256
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:39:06 -
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Think this is a decent solution as presented in the minutes. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
36
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Posted - 2014.10.30 15:45:07 -
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i hope you mean the watermark part not the other
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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Jared Noan
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
22
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Posted - 2014.11.02 22:54:07 -
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Amely Miles wrote:Jared Noan wrote:Can I has my logo now? Cracks whip....NO! Now get back in your cage!
LOL, you should see the hole I work in.
At least they don't shoot at me, much. |
Yongtau Naskingar
Yongtau Naskingar Corporation
77
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Posted - 2014.11.03 11:07:18 -
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Is the watermark thing going to be enough, though? Can you just have a separate claim on an obviously derivative work like that? |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
256
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Posted - 2014.11.03 18:11:08 -
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Jared Noan wrote:Amely Miles wrote:Jared Noan wrote:Can I has my logo now? Cracks whip....NO! Now get back in your cage! LOL, you should see the hole I work in. At least they don't shoot at me, much.
I work in a company which is a service provider with road vehicles, but if they could do it without the cars, they would, at least, thats the state they are in. |
Jon Hellguard
X-COM
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Posted - 2014.11.10 17:00:32 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4826717#post4826717
How long do you expect new eden's pilot to hold and wait? I have the feeling CCP has forgoten all about it by now. |
Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
38
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Posted - 2014.11.10 17:10:30 -
[407] - Quote
if thats what your reading then your intel is a little out of date ... read the CSM9 Minutes they have Alliance Logos addressed on pages 94-99
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.evecorps.co/
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Dradis Aulmais
Ignite Llc. V.L.A.S.T
11
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Posted - 2014.11.10 20:03:51 -
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Come on CCP you have lawyers have them publish the rod for the logos alreaddy |
Jared Noan
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
22
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Posted - 2014.11.11 21:35:05 -
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Dradis Aulmais wrote:Come on CCP you have lawyers have them publish the rod for the logos alreaddy
Their lawyers are the ones getting in the way. |
Teebling
Synthetic Army Upholders
128
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Posted - 2014.11.17 11:10:51 -
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Dear Falcon/CCP,
I made an alliance logo June this year, really proud of it and members keep asking about when it will actually end up in-game.
I have to say it's starting to feel a bit unfair seeing all of the other alliances in-game with their custom logos, and not even being able to submit one for ourselves.
As you mentioned in your devblog, alliance logos are an integral part of feeling ownership/identification with a group of players.
We've not had that opportunity for half of a year and what's more, we've not had any progress updates from you since August.
This is such an important feature, and we know you want to get it just right, but please at least keep us posted on any developments. Half a year is a long time to have the submission process closed! |
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
38
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Posted - 2014.11.17 12:39:02 -
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i'm in the same boat as him/her above me however we have been waiting since 30/06/2014 according to my chat logs
for those who want to see the kick #ss logo you can see it here on my website thats currently being re-designed
http://spacemp.net/
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.net
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Ortho Loess
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
40
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Posted - 2014.11.17 17:20:49 -
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I like the suggestion of watermarking. It seems like a reasonable compromise.
My main suggestion: Make a tool for creating logos on the eve website. I can upload my logo into it, and it allows me to select from a small range of EVE-provided content to add and position where I feel it looks best (simple drag and drop). Better: I can also resize it, with a sensible minimum size.
After this is submitted, someone at CCP looks at it, to check I've not somehow managed to design my image to hide the EVE bit, or whatever (and to check it's not a *****...)
Ideally, you would open this tool while leaving the current logos in game, and then at a certain patch, remove all old ones and put in all new ones at once. I recognise, however, that it would be a bit easier to remove all logos first, and then open up the tool for putting in new ones. We would lose our logo for a month or two, but this would be acceptable.
CCP Falcon: Thank you for fighting for us with the lawyers and your colleagues. When we talked at EGX, I really did get the impression that you care a lot about this. (also, Valkyrie was looking great!)
Regards,
-Ortho |
Iudicium Vastus
Incognito Holdings and Savings
311
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:02:28 -
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I love how they're letting the so many no-longer-relevant sticky threads simply bury this to second page or father.
[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just..
-Fit more points
-Fit faction points
-Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
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Amely Miles
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
38
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:22:12 -
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personaly i love how theres not been a response since august and the players have been feeding each other updates instead of ccp
Favorite Quotes:
In Space No one flings Poo!!
Yes that is a Banana in my Pocket
http://spacemp.net
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Ortho Loess
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
40
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Posted - 2014.11.24 11:58:22 -
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So is it the lawyers or the dev team causing the delay at this point?
As much as I appreciate the work being done behind the scenes, a little communication would be nice. |
Jared Noan
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:32:53 -
[416] - Quote
bump |
Lord Ra
Section XII The Southern Querious Drug Cartel
28
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Posted - 2014.12.04 16:25:45 -
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im not going to make cheesy tshirts or sell coffee mugs with i <3 southern querious drug cartel on them i just want a nice pretty logo on my new alliance ! :) can we get an update on this at some point please Falcon i know you guys are busy and alot of people in here been waiting a long time for an update on this?.
Kind Regards |
RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
227
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Posted - 2014.12.07 02:56:27 -
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Amely Miles wrote:if thats what your reading then your intel is a little out of date ... read the CSM9 Minutes they have Alliance Logos addressed on pages 94-99
I had a look at the minutes. I was unimpressed.
CSM 9 Minutes wrote:Okay, so the first point is that because alliance logos are part of the EVE client, CCP has to own the logo. Otherwise, we canGÇÖt use it or show it for stuff like Twitch, we canGÇÖt use it during the AT, we canGÇÖt use it on ship models, in comics, or anything else potentially. We basically canGÇÖt use the logo unless we own it, from a legal standpoint. If CCP doesnGÇÖt own the logo, then players can potentially advance IP infringement suits against CCP or other players, and we canGÇÖt take the risk there. Ownership of logos and player created content is consistent across the industry and PC games.
This is incorrect. Anyone who is in a position to potentially transfer copyright is in a position to transfer a suitably worded perpetual and royalty free licensing arrangement which gives CCP all of the rights needed to exploit the logo in any way shape or form that CCP may think of. Licences to use third party content are common as muck - how do you think that Rockstar North manage to create radio stations in the Grand Theft Auto games that use popular music without getting sued to hell and back? By licensing, of course.
CSM 9 Minutes wrote:Point two: Because players create their own logos and submit them to CCP, many player believe that they own their logos and that it is their IP. This directly contradicts the EULA, where submitted content belongs to CCP.
Alas, EULAs don't override national law. There's a whole host of national laws stipulating the form of the transfer of ownership of IP. Indeed, in Germany it's impossible to transfer it in the first place, and many nations need something more binding than a click-through agreement. The submitted content does not and has never belonged to CCP.
CSM 9 Minutes wrote:For example, if a logo is in EVE, and the logo is in another game, game publishers may find themselves in conflict over who owns the logo.
A non-exclusive licensing arrangement from the content creator fixes this.
In short, your lawyers are dangerously incompetent at best. You need better lawyers.
~
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Hassan Al-Fassir
NERV Reborn Independent Stars Allied Forces
1
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Posted - 2014.12.08 14:24:13 -
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BUMP for thread as we want Logo too -.- |
Dani Maulerant
Valkyrie Professional Resources LOADED-DICE
4
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Posted - 2014.12.09 06:25:56 -
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Another bump. I just got done with a draft for my alliance's logo and nearing full refined completion. Would really like if sometime in the rest of the lifetime of this game it could be utilized for real. |
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